7-8 yr olds in the 5 and under playground (siblings)

what do you think of older siblings in playground for 5 and under kids

  • That is fine for the siblings to play too! So long as they are not causing trouble!

  • No, it isn't safe for the toddlers to have bigger and older kids running about!

  • It depends on how many kids are there, behavior etc

  • don't know, don't care!


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sleepingbean

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Well, what do you think? Is it okay for older siblings who are still young, to play along in the Pooh and Donald playground areas? My soon to be 7 year old LOVES those playgrounds and she would be oh so sad if she couldn't play, but is it considered rude to let the older child in the area designated for younger children? Keeping in mind she will be there with her 4 year old sister!
 
I think that it is obviously dependent upon the behavior of the child. My 9 year old plays with my 5 year old all the time, she would be heartbroken if she wasn't allowed in to play with him. Now of course, they are mostly moving up to the bigger areas so it's not really an issue, but I think that as long as they are playing nicely with the little ones and appropriately it isn't an issue. I do have problems with the big kids that run wild all over the little kid areas thereby making it not a safe place for little ones.
 
My DS8 played on the playgrounds last year with DD3. They had a ball. There were MANY older kids in there, as Tigger was in there doing autographs. As long as your DD is watching out for the little ones, it shouldn't be a problem.
 
My oldest is moving up to a "big kid" status, but my other two are still quite little. I have never had a problem with bigger kids in the little kid playground, providing: They are an actual sibling and they are being careful of the little ones or if there is some type of developemental delay (autism). It only bothers me if they aren't playing with a younger child they are with (and by that I mean, not with a younger child) or if they are causing possible harm to younger kids by running without looking and jumping on them (even if unintentionally). But if they play with consideration and are there because of a younger one, who cares?
 

As long as they're behaving, then I say let them play. We will be facing that soon enough with ds5 and dd3. We were at the mall where they had a height limit in the playground of 44" -- ds5 is 46". I let him play and he was very considerate of the little ones and even helped them up and down off of the equipment. Parents were commenting on how much of a help he was.
 
As long as she isn't picking on the younger children and careful not to trample the really small children while she's playing, I say who cares. As long as she knows to be cautious around the little ones or she can't play, I would be willing to bet she'll be fine.
 
We went to the Pooh area right when it opened and right before my DD was too old for it. She knew that on our next trip, only two months later, she'd be too old for it and that's just the way it is. She can read so she knew why.

We follow the rules whether they upset us or not. Rules are rules and they are in place for a reason. We don't pick and choose which we're going to follow.

That's how it is with my family.
 
Have at it. If she plays sweetly with wee ones, then she should be able to play. It isn't hurting anything.
 
My 8 year old loves to play on these type of playgrounds WITH her 2 & 3 yo sisters. But, she also knows that she's definately too big/old for them. So she is allowed to play if there are no other tots in there. As soon as more tots come she can't play anymore becuase even though she is playing with her sisters, she still does get crazy just being a kid and she can accidently hurt someone. She's only 50 pounds but that can still hurt a 2-4 yo. Yes she pouts, yes she whines, yes she tells me it's not fair and that she wants to play, but those are the rules. I'm fine when it's just my kids (rarely happens), but as soon as other kids are involved I'm not putting them or my 8 yo in potential danger.

It drives me batty as a mom of tots to find these play areas filled with older kids. It's not safe for the little ones, because kids are kids and the bigger ones can easily unintentionally hurt the little ones. The little ones don't look where they're going, the big ones forget sometimes - the big kids need to stay out if there are a lot of tots. At Disney, at the mall, at other areas - I can't stand to *need* to have a place for my 2 & 3 yo run off some steam and not be able to let them do it beucase it's overrun with big kids. If there's a couple and they're playing with what appears to be siblings - fine, if it's a few I can handle it, but when it's so crowded and crazy - no, the big kids need to sit down.

And yes, when there's an obvious height/age limit and the playground has been overrun I have gotten mall security or a CM. The worst is at one of our malls - to get into the play area there is only one entrance. It's the rules and height/age limit sign. The sign IS the door - you have to be able to walk under the sign to get into the area (or jump over the back of the parent seats on the outside but I won't go there) To see 7-12 yos terrorizing that playground and then claim they 'didn't know' that they were too big - yeah right.

getting off my soapbox - I say as long as there aren't a lot of toddlers, your older child is playing nice, and when there are more toddlers the older one sits and understands the playground isn't for him anyways - it should be alright.
 
We went to the Pooh area right when it opened and right before my DD was too old for it. She knew that on our next trip, only two months later, she'd be too old for it and that's just the way it is. She can read so she knew why.

We follow the rules whether they upset us or not. Rules are rules and they are in place for a reason. We don't pick and choose which we're going to follow.

That's how it is with my family.

Im a rules kinda girl myself.
 
I also believe that you should just follow the rules. Your daughter may be wonderful with young children, but some are not and their parents may believe that they are. So it's best just not to allow any older children in the toddler playgrounds. Your daughter will have to understand that it's a rule. Just like height requirements where she can ride some rides and her younger sister cannot.
 
As a mom of 2 young children I don't really like to see older kids in the toddler play areas. Sorry but that's my feeling. I've had to deny my 23 mo from being allowed to play becuase of too many "big kids" playing in the structures that they are obviously too old for becuase she's ben almost trampled too many times. If there are ages/height limits posted please play by the rules. Just explain to the child that rules are rules and that there will be other opportunities to play together. It might not be what they want to hear but they can't always have their way, even if they play nice. Just think how you would feel if your 2 year old was surrounded by 8yo in an under 4 play area. You probably wouldn't be too thrilled.
 
My daughter is soon-to-be 7 as well, so I'll be facing this the next time we go. I'll assess the situation when we get there. If the play area isn't crowded, I will likely let her go in. She understands that she needs to play carefully around little ones. If she started playing too wild (which would be very unusual for her), I would remove her immediately.

If the play area was crowded, I wouldn't even consider letting her go in. And if she can't go, I won't let my little one go either. It would make my older daughter too sad.
 
Want to know what's funny? In a couple years all these moms of "little ones" who don't want the big kids in because they "follow the rules" will have most likely have smaller children and they'll be the ones posting that their kids want to go in to play with their other child.
Just something I see happen all the time.
Thought for once I'd point it out.
Weird I'm not usually snarky like this but this topic just sets me off.

Then again I get miffed that Disney thinks kids are "adult" at 10 too, not because I have to pay more, but because in no place should a 10 year old be considered an adult, especially someplace so child centric.

Now... onto expand why I think older children should be allowed to play in the smaller area. The smaller siblings sometimes depend on their big brother/big sister, and are frightened without them, the "big kid" part might be overrun with unruly kids so having the smaller child accompany the "bigger" child isn't an option, maybe the big kids in the bigger playground are rough or mean, maybe the older child actually wants to play with their siblings (this should ALWAYS be encouraged in my eyes).
My daughter loves to help little ones do things like build sandcastles, she loves to push little kids on swings, she's not your typical rough and tumble kid. She loves to play with smaller kids, she's young for her age and very imaginative, she comes up with some of the coolest things. Would I make her get out if she weren't being careful of the small kids, absolutely, would I make her get out if she wasn't paying attention, of course! Should I make her stop having fun with her little brother? I don't think so.... she's the one all the little kids want to play with!
 
I do have children that are spaced out in age. I think it would be great if all older children were like your daughter and great with younger children, but in reality all are not. Also some parents think their children are wonderful, but in reality they are not. You have to draw a line somewhere. And that is what disney has done. What would you do if there were older children in the playground area that were not nice to the younger children? Would you approach that child or their parent? That is why disney and other places have had to make this rule. Like I said in my previous post. There are somethings that your oldler child can do and your younger cannot, likewise there are things your younger child can do that your older cannot. I don't mean to upset anyone who disagrees,but there has to be rules for everyone's safety.
 
Want to know what's funny? In a couple years all these moms of "little ones" who don't want the big kids in because they "follow the rules" will have most likely have smaller children and they'll be the ones posting that their kids want to go in to play with their other child.
Just something I see happen all the time.
Thought for once I'd point it out.
Weird I'm not usually snarky like this but this topic just sets me off.

so does this mean the older child gets preferential treatment? i mean-the younger sib who may not meet the height requirements for a ride at wdw does'nt get to ride and has to observe their sib doing something it's against the rules for them to do, so what's wrong in the older sib having to do the same thing?

i have 2 kids, and for years ds while def. age appropriate, never met the height requirement for allot of the rides at wdw and other amusement places (finaly did at almost age 9). he had to watch older sib sis ride these, and yes he was disappointed but he learned it was the rules and if we went to places like this we had to abide by them. conversely older dd had to learn that some areas were off limits to her. now she's a real gentle girl who would have not played on equipment in these areas, would have interacted with toddlers in a positive manner-but the rules were such she exceeded either the age or height requirement. what got interesting was when ds still met height requirements but exceeded age. in those cases he had to learn that he was at an 'in between' point in his life where he did'nt fit into either the 'kiddie' area or the 'big kids/adult' area. was it hard on him? yes, and we chose not to travel as much to amusement parks during this period of time. dd had to learn that sometimes we make sacrifices (as in her not going as much as she would have liked) to spare the feelings of people we care about-and i think it's contributed to her level of compassion now.

i honestly got to a point with both kids where i avoided these areas in most situations. i've never seen the rules greatly enforced, and as a result i've had both kids trampled by older kids, seen equipment that was meant to support kids of a certain weight range bow under the weight of bigger kids (and that's scary when it's a tube structure that goes over an area designed for the youngest ones to be playing in like a ball pit)-and had my toddler shoved aside/pushed down by the older sibling of another toddler who was 'helping' their sib do something. those areas are generaly built such to cover a limited age range-if a younger kid can't climb up to do something on their own-they probably should'nt be doing it and should be playing on the items they are capable of independant play on. as they personaly physicaly progress such that they can do it on their own they can acess/play on it without an older sib's assistance.

play areas, birthday parties, movies...there will always be disparities between inclusion/acess/ price of admission between ages-sibs needs to learn to deal with it. with dd we've told her in these situations-'yes, it might not be fun to sit on the sidelines and watch db play in an area you can't go into-but you had 2 1/2 years of playing in them before he was around, and now there are things you can do that he can't-and he has to watch you from the sidelines'.
 
No, the 8 year old may not like sitting it out at Pooh's playground. The 3 year old probably doesn't like being left out of EE or ToT either. Such is life, and life isn't fair.
Unless you have twins, your kids are going to meet different rules/requirements at different times, and parents will have do deal with that throughout their lives. When the older one gets his/her drivers license at age 17 and the 15 year old is whining about how unfair it is, are the parents supposed to petition the governor to lower the driving age because everything has to be fair?
Sorry, but it is not right to let the older kids into an area that is clearly for toddlers and pre-schoolers. The intent of this area was likely there to give the little ones something to do while their older sib's are on a big ride with another adult rather than sit on a bench and wait. I would be angry if my 3 year old was trampled/knocked down or frankly hampered in ANY way by a "well meaning" older child who clearly did not belong there.
 
I think it is fine depending on the situation. How busy it is, how many young kids there are, how the older kids are acting. I don't think it is ok for older kids to be running around playing tag or chase, not paying attention to others around them etc.....

When my DD was a baby she was very small (both of them really.) I used to allow my then 10 year old nice to follow her around in play areas and protect her. She was way to big to play, but small enough to fit in the areas DD could and would stick with her like glue. In fact I couldn't let DD play unless an adult or someone bigger was there because she would get trampled and run over.

Really a hyper 2 or 3 year old can be much more unsafe for other young kids then a well behaved 7 year old playing with their little sister. It is the big toddlers I worry the most about, those are the ones that push down my little kids, pull hair and run around with out looking stepping on them or knocking them over. They also don't understand "rules of behavior yet" and are not old enough to know better.

So as long as the child is behaving safely, is supervised and understands this play area is for small children and respects that I think it is fine. It is a family vacation after all. Then again most 7 year olds would rather go ride a ride, but splitting up isn't always an option.
 
Want to know what's funny? In a couple years all these moms of "little ones" who don't want the big kids in because they "follow the rules" will have most likely have smaller children and they'll be the ones posting that their kids want to go in to play with their other child.
Just something I see happen all the time.
Thought for once I'd point it out.
Weird I'm not usually snarky like this but this topic just sets me off.

I have a 4 yr old and a 17 yr old so I have had it on both sides. I didnt let my oldest into playground for the young ones because I dont think any parent wants their two yr old having to dodge 10 yr olds. Once my baby gets too old then he wont play either, rules are rules.Even if there is a new child and he wants to play with him ill just explain about the rules. Im not sure why people cant figure that rules are made for a reason. It is our job to teach our kiddies to respect rules isnt it?. :confused3
 
My daughter is soon-to-be 7 as well, so I'll be facing this the next time we go. I'll assess the situation when we get there. If the play area isn't crowded, I will likely let her go in. She understands that she needs to play carefully around little ones. If she started playing too wild (which would be very unusual for her), I would remove her immediately.

If the play area was crowded, I wouldn't even consider letting her go in. And if she can't go, I won't let my little one go either. It would make my older daughter too sad.

Just curious, not trying to slam you at all, but why do things always have to be fair. My youngest goes to bed much earlier than my oldest and he cries about it, but gets over it. My DS17 can drink coke, but DS4 cant till he is older, that makes him mad. My DS17 does dangerous stunts on our half pipe in the backyard and it infuriates my DS4 that i dont let him on. Life isnt always fair, and thats ok. Your oldest will get to do things in WDW that your baby cant do, so why cant baby have her own playtime.
 












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