$10,000 Later. Oh My Word! Say It Isn't So !

The answer to the question about activities is LOTS! We went on a Carnival cruise last year with 7 kids in our group aged 9 months to 16 years. All of them loved Camp Carnival. Every night a paper with all the activities gets put under your door and I would read them to the kids and they would pick out what they wanted to do. We went to story time, cookie decorating, and other stuff together plus they BEGGED to go to play by themselves in the big Kid Zone with awesome toys and video games and movies, etc. For younger kids they give the parents a pager and when the kids are done playing they page you. Total freedom as a parent! Plus if I was in the middle of something when the page went off, I just used the house phone to call the Camp and they put my kid on and I explained why I would be delayed. It was just an amazing vacation for all the families in our group.

But I don't want to discourage you from a Disney cruise, either. I've heard they are amazing as well and like you said, you can always do another cruiseline. I was just pointing out what we were doing, not what you should do. My only opinion in your paticular case was don't give up hope because of the money. You can have the vacation of your dreams without it being $10000.00! For one week you should be able to do it for at least half that.

If you want cruising with kids tips, feel free to ask.

Esther
 
You can do this for MUCH LESS than 10,000. For starters, packages are almost always a bad deal. Can you give us some additional information so we can give you good suggestions:

What time of year are you traveling? That makes such a difference in price!

How far away do you live -- is flying a necessity?

The Dolphin isn't the most expensive place in WDW, but it isn't the cheapest either. Are you, by chance, a teacher or a nurse? If so, you qualify for a good discount at the Dolphin or the Swan. Have you checked mousesavers.com for discount codes on room-only? What is your criteria for a "good room"? At the very least, you should join the Starwood hotel club thingy right away. You'll get a free upgrade to a nicer room upon check-in, and you'll begin to build points for a future stay.

You mentioned renting a car. Since you're staying on Disney property, this isn't a necessity. Which matters more: staying on property or having the car? On the other hand, you must consider that if you don't rent the car, you'll have to pay for your transportation from the airport to WDW, then from WDW to the port, then from the port to the airport. The car might be a necessity after all.

You're getting the meal package? You're only going to be at WDW for three days -- that's very little time. Are you sure you want to use that time sitting down in restaurants? I'd consider doing all fast-food in WDW (especially since you'll have nice, leisurely meals on the cruise). A family of five can eat a decent fast-food meal inside the Disney parks for $25-30 (especially if you drink water instead of sodas). Look at deb's site for menus and prices. The meal vouchers can work to your advantage, though you must be careful with them.

Tickets are an expensive part of WDW. What parks do you plan to visit mostly? Will you want to go to major parks all three days? Does park hopping matter to you?

These three days -- will you arrive on day one, have only day two for "complete park days", then leave for Port Canaveral mid-day on day three? If so, you should not pay park prices for all three days. What time will you arrive on day one? What could you do without a park ticket that day? Visit a water park (half the price of a major park), go to Disney Quest (which is a separately priced item), do an Illuminations cruise, drive water mice. What time do you anticipate leaving for the port on the third day? The ship will sail around 5:00, so you'll need to be out of WDW by 2:00 at the latest. I wouldn't pay a full day's park prices for half a day's use.

On to the cruise . . .

Must it be a Disney cruise? I've cruised on Disney and it is wonderful, but our next cruise is going to be Royal Caribbean. Why? The price is significantly lower -- like 40% less -- we just can't justify the higher price. Try cruisecritic.com for more information. Something to look out for: Many non-Disney cruise lines use their older ships for the short 3-4 day cruises, and that's not a good thing. Your kids will have plenty of fun in the kids' clubs regardless of what line you choose. The biggest deal to us was giving up the day at Disney's private island Castaway Cay.

Consider booking two inside, connecting rooms instead of a large "family suite". On such a short cruise, you'll spend little time in your cabin anyway. You get the same meals, same access to shows and movies, and the same use of the pool, etc. regardless of what room you book. Plus, you'll have two bathrooms, which will matter with five people.

On the cruise, you'll have two large expenses that you didn't mention: First, tips. For a family of five, expect to pay about $350 in tips to your room steward, waiters, etc. Second, excursions. On a four-day cruise, you'll probably have two stops, and you'll want to do something in port. You can plan to do "on your own" things instead of using the ship's expensive pre-planned excursions, but it'll still be expensive. Again, how old are your daughters? That'll be instrumental in what your family will want to do in port. Other little things that add up on the cruise: photographs (you will want them), alcoholic drinks, milkshakes . . .

Okay, that was long. I hope it's helpful. If you'll answer some of the questions, perhaps we can all provide some more detailed answers to help you save as much as possible while still planning the vacation you really want. I'm 100% sure it can be done for much less than 10,000.
 
I just did a 14-day WDW/UO/Wonder vacation in early December, including airfare from the West Coast.

Like everybody has said---AVOID PACKAGES! Go over to the cruise board when you have time, it's a great resource.

Four-night cruise for 5 people in two Cat 10's $2,200 (2004 prices early booked). We took my parents, and it bumped the price up $700. If you try to book through Disney, they automatically kick you up to a Cat 4 for a family of 5, but with two lower Cats, you get double bathrooms, double storage, and more privacy for (generally) less money.

Airfare is a flat $1,134.50 for the five of us (including tax). We book strictly through Southwest, and that price has been solid for the past 8 years.

Rented a 6-bedroom house for the first 10 days prior to the cruise. Great alternative, particularly to spread out and get the kids to bed while you relax in the pool.

I wrote a trip report for the cruise portion if you want to read it, or feel free to PM me any questions if I can help. I'm beginning preparations for a Dec. 2005 repeat vacation. My "preparations" basically involve easing DH into the idea!!! LOL!!!
 
I'd book separate land/sea ressies....and as for the Swan/Dolphin, remember, they're not 'Disney' resorts....they're owned by Sheraton....and operated on Disney grounds....did you check out any WDW resorts?? Good luck and I'm ready to hear the update!
 

Wow, thanks for all the tips! I figure that once this WDW is over that I will need some vacation to plan for. Sounds like I'll need the 9 months to figure things about before the 2007 bookings begin.

Lots to learn!

T&B
 
Having been on several different cruiselines, including Disney, I say book a different line! I know I may need my flame suit and I don't care. There is no way that Disney is worth an extra $3000. Okay, their cabins may be a bit bigger, but not that big and the kids activities on any other cruise line have been just as good. And in fact, you don't have to worry about Captain Hook freaking out your son so that he will not go back to the kids clubs every again in this lifetime!! We liked our Disney cruise, but honestly I think a lot of the way they manage to get repeat business is that many people cruise them for the first cruise they ever go on assumming that it will be more of a family cruise than some other line. Then when they experience the cruise and how fabulous a cruise is, they think it's because it is Disney that the cruise is so great. Not so, a cruise is a beautiful thing!!! I love love love cruising and totally relate to being enamored of them, but Disney doesn't do it better than any of hte other lines I have been on.

So, that is my very humble opinion! (And Princess' private island and RCCL's private island are both very cool! Or at least they were before last fall.)
 
Thanks, Julie, for your cruising advice. You're right, it's hard to know what other cruise lines are like if a person has never gone on a cruise. Somehow I think I'd be happy on any family oriented cruise line. In the summer of 2007 we'll have one child in college and be a year away from the next one going to college, so money will more than likely be tight.

I would sure hope that a flame proof suit would not be needed for voicing your opinion about cruise lines. Now if we want to talk about refillable mugs or squeezing an extra person into a WDW room, that is a different matter! :)

T&B
 
CheapMom that is great! How did you go about making up your package and who did you go through to book it? Was everything separate...did you go through Dreams or Travelocity or wherever?
Yes- everything was booked separately. I got quotes from Dreamsunlimited, Disney, Allseastravel, BJs, Sam's Club, and AAA. Costco was the cheapest and they were great. As for the room I got the $55 rate ($62 total with taxes) with a code from watching these boards, same thing with the airefare.

As for DCL vs. other lines: I have nothing to compare to as this was our first cruise but I would try another line. I wouldn't look on the cruise board for unbiased opinions because it is very biased- 98% of the people over there LOVE LOVE LOVE DCL. I love it too. Our cruise was near perfect. We were treated like royalty. Still- it is pricey compared to other lines.
Have you seen the Carnival commercial where they play the song from Finding Nemo and show the steward making towel animals and lots of kids and families having a great time? Hmmm- I think they are targeting DCL's customers.
 


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