So What's Coming to the New Pleasure Island?

Discussion in 'Disney Rumors and News' started by KINGBOBOFTHENORTH, Aug 25, 2008.

  1. Jason71

    Jason71 Brother to pirates and corsairs...

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    It's actually not "copyright" law that would be at issue here (doubt Schussler would be dumb enough to directly rip off characters/names), it's a closely related legal principle called "trade dress." And it's a nebulous area, particularly with restaurants. One taco place succeeded in suing another for copying their "look" and "feel", but the parent company of Orlando Alehouse and Hooters have had no luck suing people who basically cloned their restaurants (anyone who has been in a Winghouse can tell it's pretty clearly a Hooters clone, but the court let is slide).

    Hard to say if a Universal lawsuit against Schussler would work considering neither spot has even opened yet. It would come down to the details, and both sides would probably end up with pretty hefty legal bills. But there's no question Disney has a history of opening attractions that closely mimic other attractions in the greater Orlando area (PI/Church St. Station, Living Seas/Sea World, MGM/Universal, AK/BG...).
     
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  3. KINGBOBOFTHENORTH

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    Winghouse spent a bundle defending itself in this case but ultimately won. Don't know if Hooters had to pay their costs and attorney's fees. The concept is exactly the same with a menu based on wings and waitresses based on breasts and thighs!

    BobK/Orlando
     
  4. LuluLovesDisney

    LuluLovesDisney <font color=red>If you're not outraged, you're not

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    They should engrave that on a plaque and display it at the entrance.:lmao::3dglasses:guilty:
     
  5. yitbos96bb

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    Actually Bob, you were probably more right in the first place... There are restaurants that copy each others themes all the time without any issues at all. Look at chains like Showbiz Pizza and Chuck E Cheese back in the day. A lot of would depend on how you did the menu, location and etc, but Angel is simplfying it way too much in saying that it would be infringement. Of course they might threaten to sue, knowing they'd lose, but try to drive you out of business with legal costs. Either way, it's not so simple that they could stop you from having a jungle themed animatronic restaurant. NOW, were you to do a Rain forest animatronic themed restaurant called Brazilian Bistro or something, THAT would more likely cause some issues... Although I have my doubts RFC would win to be honest...However, in your example jungle is not the rainforest and in the CORRS and COORS example, its because the name was similar and COORS could make an argument that they were capitalizing on their name... That argument can't be made for your Jungle THemed restaurant concept.

    Or look at it this way... Medieval Manor vs Medieval Times vs the other various medieval dinner shows... Those are all pretty close, but both still run and operate. If a copyright case was makable, I'd bet one would have sued by now.
     
  6. yitbos96bb

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    To be accurate, MGM opened a year before Universal Orlando... it was just announced after Universal made their announcement.
     
  7. KINGBOBOFTHENORTH

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    The courts very much frown on economic giants filing tenuous lawsuits against parties just to drive them out of business with legal expenses. Giants have to be very careful going down that road because they face huge punitive damages in the countersuit.


    In that case I will proceed with my railroad-themed 70's/80's nighclub to be called 8TRACKS!

    BobK/Orlando
     
  8. yitbos96bb

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    Threatening to sue you and actually filing suit are two very different things. Sometimes a Cease and Desist letter will do wonders. And truthfully, I doubt any court would call a suit like that frivilous, even if it was most assuredly a loser.
     
  9. CanadianGuy

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    So this is what Pleasure Island will be reduced to.. threats of copyright/trademark infringement and no bars and clubs.

    ;)

    K
     
  10. zulemara

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    I'm tellin ya, a few million and I'll be more than happy to reopen CSS featuring Club Steam and Bell Bottoms and Tops! May as well throw in comedy where? house too!
     
  11. ConcKahuna

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    Is that the 70's gay bar? :rotfl:
     
  12. zulemara

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    It's 8-trax with a clever name :-) Not specifically gay though:lmao:
     
  13. doconeill

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    In a bit of twisted irony, my Disney Insider "Do You Know Disney?" email question of the week was, "What is celebrated every night on Pleasure Island?"

    Of course, the first word out of my mouth was, "Nothing!"...but they still seem to think the answer is, "New Years Eve"...

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  14. KINGBOBOFTHENORTH

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    Well I hope you straighten them out because you obviously know more than they do. The correct answer is indeed: Nothing!

    BobK/Orlando
     
  15. doconeill

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    If there was a way to contact them, I would set them straight!

    They stopped the NYE stuff back in 2005 or 2006, for Mickey's sake!
     
  16. KINGBOBOFTHENORTH

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    Island sources tell me that the tiki-hut drink and popcorn kiosk is going to me moving "downhill" in the near future, and enlarged. It is currently located outside Adventurers Club. Stage Pizza has already closed and disappeared.

    Makes sense....it sure can't stay where it's at during the AC demolition!

    BobK/Orlando
     
  17. zulemara

    zulemara <font color=royalblue>Oh Boy! I'm a WDW sailor!<br

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    where the hell r they gonna put it where it can be enlarged? My only thought is where the funmeister is by Motion, but no one walks over there so that would be dumb. Then again, they don't do anything that makes sense. I will be checking out the island on Tuesday.
     
  18. Jason71

    Jason71 Brother to pirates and corsairs...

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    For what it's worth, they were rolling in some big equipment Friday night at 2:00 a.m. Something must be underway. Very odd that they keep the entire Island open and unobstructed just for tiny little Fuego (which admittedly was still packed).
     
  19. zulemara

    zulemara <font color=royalblue>Oh Boy! I'm a WDW sailor!<br

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    as in this last Friday? Crap!
     
  20. KINGBOBOFTHENORTH

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    I was there earlier Friday night but nothing was going on.
    Save Pleasure Island reporters are on the island now checking things out! If there is anything to see, will have photos on the Save Pleasure Island blog this evening. Thanks!

    UPDATE: Our reporters did not find any equipment on the Island this afternoon. It's possible they came in at 2am, did something, then departed. Reporter Zulemara will weigh-in later.
    BobK/Orlando
     
  21. zulemara

    zulemara <font color=royalblue>Oh Boy! I'm a WDW sailor!<br

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    the equipment is gone, so whatever they were doing, I would speculate was prep work of some kind. Most of the stuff we saw was just speculative things that might or might not have been there before. I'll send pics to bob, but I don't really expect anything major to come out of the pics. That said, we will keep a closer eye on the island now. I will be there again tomorrow to see avatar.
     

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