Smoking on Verandahs????

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  1. amylia403

    amylia403 Disney Mommy

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    I'm really worried now. We have a verandah cabin booked for our family vacation on the Dream. My son has a severe reaction (We are talking throat closing up, windpipe constriction and everything) to breathing in cigarette smoke. We were told by a Disney cast member that passengers were NOT allowed to smoke on verandahs, so that we should have no problems. Someone on another thread had asked about that and the reply had quoted the DCL site and stated that smoking was allowed on "Private Verandahs". Is this accurate? Or has the policy changed at all?
     
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  3. *WDW*Groupie*

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    The smell of cigarette smoke on our verandah was so overpowering on our last cruise that I did ask a CM if it was allowed and I was told it was. It really bothered me to the point that I rarely used it because whoever was smoking seemed to be outside at the same time that I was.
     
  4. amylia403

    amylia403 Disney Mommy

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    Oh no!! :( I'll be praying that we don't have the same experience.
     
  5. lmhall2000

    lmhall2000 May the road rise to meet you....May God hold you

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    I can feel for you, our first Disney trip was spent at the ER and 3 days of breathing treatments while the rest went out...all because our first room (non-smoking) apparently had a 'cheater' in it the time before.

    Our son (now 15) has really grown out of most of his severe reactions but I'm still very concerned, my solution was to pick a verandah room on the LOWEST deck (smoke rises ya know)...at least then you will only have to worry about the 2 rooms on either side of you instead of the three rooms below you and the two on sides....

    Good luck!!
    Tara
     
  6. kcashner

    kcashner DIS Veteran

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    Smoking is permitted on all verandahs. Good luck.

    I have suggested for YEARS that they follow the "starboard only" policy like they do on the open air decks, but DCL isn't listening.
     
  7. DoOverDreams

    DoOverDreams DIS Veteran

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    No, it's not rude and inconsiderate. It's called following the rules. Smoking in a non-smoking area, now that would be rude and inconsiderate.
     
  8. tchrrx

    tchrrx <font color=red>Blame it on the plastic cow I ment

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    OP, I am sorry that your son has problems with cigarette smoke and I am not a big fan of it myself. However, DoOverDreams is right. People who smoke on their own private verandas are not rude if it's allowed by DCL. Perhaps you can choose a different room type if cigarette smoke is such a deal breaker.
     
  10. smb6

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    I like the idea of allowing smoking on verandah's on only one side of the ship.... This would work well for everyone... With that said, I don't think it is rude of people to smoke on their verandah since it is allowed.... Many smokers pay the extra money for their verandah for that very reason, and I understand and accept that.... If it is life threatning for you or your child to get whiffs of smoke, I would encourage you to NOT get a verandah room and I would email DCL a complaint/suggestion of putting smoking verandah's on one side of the ship- if enough people do so, maybe they will catch on... Were in an inside room, so no worries for us.
     
  11. sunkisser

    sunkisser Earning My Ears

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    Seriously???...
    If your son has such a severe allergy that ANY cigarette smoke sends him into an asthma attack (which is what the OP describes), how do you cope with going out anywhere???
    If it really is that severe then get an inside cabin and carry your inhalers everywhere because people will be smoking in the designated smoking areas outside so he could 'walk' into a bit of smoke accidentally any time he is outside. It could even be smoke from a crew member having a puff on his break from the depths of the ship (smoke rises).
    If it's just someone in the next cabin smoking and you smell it, go inside for a few minutes until the smoke has dispersed. I feel sorry for your son if his allergy is that severe, but you aren't going to stop people smoking so take the appropriate precautions before hand and don't book where people are entitled to smoke.

    Having just re read what I wrote I apologise if I came across as rude or doubting:blush: That was not my intention. We are not smokers and my daughter cannot be in a room where someone is smoking as it sets off her asthma. She does not have as severe an allergy as your son though. Unfortunately we cannot stop people smoking where they are entitled to and I think it was very wrong of DCL to give you false information x
     
  12. sunkisser

    sunkisser Earning My Ears

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    Seriously???...
    If your son has such a severe allergy that ANY cigarette smoke sends him into an asthma attack (which is what the OP describes), how do you cope with going out anywhere???
    If it really is that severe then get an inside cabin and carry your inhalers everywhere because people will be smoking in the designated smoking areas outside so he could 'walk' into a bit of smoke accidentally any time he is outside. It could even be smoke from a crew member having a puff on his break from the depths of the ship (smoke rises).
    If it's just someone in the next cabin smoking and you smell it, go inside for a few minutes until the smoke has dispersed. I feel sorry for your son if his allergy is that severe, but you aren't going to stop people smoking so take the appropriate precautions before hand and don't book where people are entitled to smoke.
     
  13. tvguy

    tvguy Question anything the facts don't support.

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    I think the reason Disney and other cruise lines haven't gone to a system of smoking verandahs on one side, and non-smoking on the other is because it doesn't work well for everyone. It works less well. If you make the port side smoking, what about a non-smoker that wants a port side cabin? The current system treats everyone as equally as they can be.
    For the record, I hate the smell of cigarettes and have never smoked. At least one line tried going non-smoking and found it didn't work.
     
  14. OrangeCountyCommuter

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    I got a "flyer" on my cruise from DCL today and it says that you can smoke on the verandahs, but not in the room.

    And I don't smoke, but I also don't think that "it's rude and incosiderate" if they only smoke where they are allowed to smoke.

    Honestly I have to agree with others... there are probably non smoking cruise lines out there and that might be a better choice. Smoking is also allowed in several of the deck areas on DCL.
     
  15. CanadianDisneyDad

    CanadianDisneyDad All you need is Faith, Trust and a Little Pixie Du

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    We have doen 2 cruises, Disney & Royal Carribean. I did notice the smoking areas but honestly never smelt any smoke. Our first cruise we had an inside stateroom and second a verandah. We saw people smoking, yes I stuck my head out, but never smelled the smoke. It is brezzy when cruising :)

    cheers
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  16. Nevada

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    I'm not saying you won't get really unlucky and get a chain smoker who is always on their balcony. I am sure it has happened but for the most part I didn't notice any smoking any place on my 2 Disney Cruises. I think on average DCL appeals to a less smoky bunch.
     
  17. OrcaPotter

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    Unfortunately my mother is a smoker, so a veranda was important on our last cruise for that reason. I know Carnival has at least one smoke-free ship, but other than that, private verandas and designated areas are allowed for smokers on most lines. It's unfortunate that those with allergies like that are inconvenienced, but it seems the risk with a reaction that severe would require booking an oceanview or inside stateroom to prevent any possible chances of allergens coming into contact. It would be better if we can get everyone to quit, however, until then, it's just unreasonable for a business to disallow smoking anywhere on the ship ... they'd lose business that way, as smokers wouldn't be able to handle it.

    I would recommend checking with the cruise line or some other resource to determine what public areas are designated for smoking, so they can be avoided.
     
  18. Luvstocruise

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    I got flamed when I got into this type of discussion before, as I am not a smoker so I will pick my words carefully. My cheaper, lower level Category 9 stateroom is starting to look even more appealing due to this issue. Since none in our party smoke and we don't have a verandah, I don't have to deal with this issue on board. I would not be very happy if I had spent the considerable more money for a verandah room and could not use it due to high smoke presence. On the other hand, I am glad that there are mostly non-smoking areas on the ship, especially everywhere indoors in restaurants, public areas, etc. for the sake of children and adults alike. Look at land laws, in the province of Ontario, Canada, it is against the law to smoke in any motor vehicle if children under 16 are present- the max fine is $250.00 This was due to the well documented dangers of second hand smoke.

    But DCL would probably only make their non-smoking policy stricter, if the other lines did the same, or did not have complaints from the smokers if they restricted the smoking even more. I am sure this comes up on other lines too. Just my gut feeling, DCL won't change things much, if it affects the bottom line too much. I sure they want to be considerate to all guests. But, because of the big family/kid focus of DCL, it could be a leader in this area if it wanted to, but only if doesn't hurt them financially.

    FWIW,
    Luvstocruise
     
  19. hdmeza

    hdmeza Earning My Ears

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    With a DH smoker, we spent the $$ for a verandah b/c he WILL NOT smoke in public areas. No matter how many open air areas they have if non-smoker (particularly children) are even passing through he will not smoke...I understand the medical issues, but I truly think DCL is doing the best they can to not exclude anyone.
     
  20. mmouse37

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    Carnival's non-smoking ship was called the Paradise but has gone the way of the rest of fleet and now allows smoking (this happened about 3 or 4 years ago).....a non-smoking ship just could be sustained financially....not enough people to fill it each cruise.

    MJ
     
  21. Hazydavy

    Hazydavy Earning My Ears

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    While not totally non smoking, Celebrity, a mass market line, is very restrictive on smoking. No smoking in cabins, on any verandas, casino, etc. Smoking is limited to a few areas, easily avoidable if smoke bothers you. Two deluxe lines, Oceania and Azamara also restrict smoking to limited areas ad do not allow smoking in any cabins or verandas. They're all doing just fine filling cabins. You would think DCL, catering to families and children would follow suit....


    BTW, Carnival who abandoned it's non smoking policy on the Paradise, is re-introducing a strict non smoking policy in spa cabins on ITS Dream and Magic ships. When you book one of these spa cabins you are advised that smoking is not allowed in the spa area, the cabins or verandas. You are advised that violations result in fines of $250.00. Certainly if Carnival can afford to do this, DCL can.
     

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