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Signs of Scrappers

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  1. MountNittany

    MountNittany Why is Tom Morrow going to the Moon? He has enough

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    A lot of people post questions about how to identify scrappers, so here is a list of some common signs that you have a scrapper. Please post any additional thoughts you have. Also, please refer to the Good/Bad Internet and eBay Pin Sellers Thread to avoid buying scrappers to trade in the first place.

    What we mean by Scrapper

    • Lighter weight
    • Off-coloration
    • Dimples in paint
    • Font on backstamp is different than legit pins
    • Rough edges
    • Holes that are cut out on legit pins are filled in with silver (check the picture on PinPics.com)
    • Inaccurate information on the back (check PinPics)
    • Official logo that is out of proportion (compare to a bought rack pin)
    • Oily smell
    • Backstamp crooked
    • If your pin has Mickey Heads stamped into the back the heads should go off the edges....if your pin has a "lip" around the edge it is a scrapper. (thanks pixiewings71)
     
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  3. MountNittany

    MountNittany Why is Tom Morrow going to the Moon? He has enough

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    If anyone can back me up, if you look carefully at the pin trading logo, the scrappers have a grainy background (like the finish of the pin) inside of the mickey head enclosed area, while the real pins have a flat finish in this area. Did anyone else spot this?

    Also, the font is often off or rough looking.
     
  4. pixiewings71

    pixiewings71 <marquee><font color=deeppink>Sweet!!! Totally!!!!

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    If your pin has Mickey Heads stamped into the back the heads should go off the edges....if your pin has a "lip" around the edge it is a scrapper.
     
  5. MountNittany

    MountNittany Why is Tom Morrow going to the Moon? He has enough

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    Thanks I forgot that... I'll add it too
     
  6. MountNittany

    MountNittany Why is Tom Morrow going to the Moon? He has enough

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    Nevermind, all of my 2009 Fastpasses have a grainy background enclosed by the mickey head.
     
  7. PhantomVirus

    PhantomVirus Getting to know you all!

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    While I try to not cross boards/boundaries here is an article I wrote - with photos - showing a real vs counterfeit pin and the now infamous bordered edge vs. clean cut.


    h t t p : / / w a l t s b a s e m e n t . y u k u . c o m / t o p i c / 1 1 2 0 9
     
  8. MountNittany

    MountNittany Why is Tom Morrow going to the Moon? He has enough

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    Thanks for your link. With your permission I will copy the pics over and give you full credit (is this okay?)
     
  9. GoofyTraci

    GoofyTraci DIS Veteran

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    does anyone have a copy of two of the same pins that are one a scrapper and one offical? I am not understanding all of this and want to see what the difference may be side by side. thanks
     
  10. Spiffie

    Spiffie Wishing to be in my happy place!!

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    does anyone have a copy of two of the same pins that are one a scrapper and one offical? I am not understanding all of this and want to see what the difference may be side by side. thanks

    If you remove the extra spaces in the above link, he has pictures of both types in his article. Very helpful and easy read.
     
  11. kate_wdw

    kate_wdw DIS Veteran

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    Oops...posted in the wrong place.

    Sorry!
     
  12. Dom13

    Dom13 Pin Pics Graphics Dept.

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    I have often found that scrappers have a rough or matte (flat) finish. The paint on legitimate pins should be shiny.
     
  13. MountNittany

    MountNittany Why is Tom Morrow going to the Moon? He has enough

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    For most, yes, I have found that too.

    Also, most scrappers show brushstrokes down through the pin. I have seen some real pins with faint lines, but not many.
     
  14. jkluttrell

    jkluttrell Mouseketeer

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    Since I know the CM's don't really take the time to know if they are trading a "scrapper" or not (for the most part), is it okay for me to hold the pin and look at it then give it back and say no thank you if I think it might be a scrapper?
     
  15. pixiewings71

    pixiewings71 <marquee><font color=deeppink>Sweet!!! Totally!!!!

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    I have done that before and the CM was fine with it. :)
     
  16. blockscrappers

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    Another good recommendation is to ask the CM if the pin you are looking at was one they started the day with or was is it one that they traded during the day. Keep in mind this is not foolproof.
     
  17. Doug7856

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    Wow, I have learned a lot from this thread. I'm shocked that someone counterfeits Disney pins! I've purchased a small "lot" of "genuine" Disney pins and it appears that at least some of them are not "genuine".
     
  18. kycanonist

    kycanonist Mouseketeer

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    I wish I could see photos of what you mean by some of these things...
     
  19. n2mm

    n2mm aka WALTSGIRL

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    OK, I'm also shocked by this. I use to collect pins with a passion from 2000-2005, then I stopped. I went cold turkey and just walked away. Fast forward, 6 years now. I decided that they need to go. So off to the auction site to start listing them. And boy am I shocked after reading "big" sellers' feedback. Wow, I didn't even have a clue this was going on. A lot of the "sellers" are selling fake pins?? Maybe by mistake?? So now I'm a little nervous about listing my legit pins. I did some reading on pinpics and was amazed at what a huge issue the fake pins are now. So I decided to scan the backs because I feel like I'm going to sell them and the "bad guys" are going to do the switch a roo on me and try to accuse me of selling the fake one. Hopefully scanning the front and back will help protect me. I'm just a small fry compared to these big sellers. I'm sure they will be buying up some of my stock to make complete sets. I have lanyard pins from the start. I won't even start on how many bins of pins I have tucked under my bed....lets just say, I was so out of control that I needed an intervention! I'm glad I found out about these fakes pins now. I stopped collecting in 2005 because it had gotten out of control with the release of so many pins for each event. Every now and then I still like to trade for cute lanyard pins, but you won't find me in the pin lines buying LE pins anymore. I kicked the habit!
     
  20. happyleesh

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    I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum, I'm looking to start a collection for my DD, but I had no idea this was going on either! What a bummer.
     
  21. pixiewings71

    pixiewings71 <marquee><font color=deeppink>Sweet!!! Totally!!!!

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    No it's not a mistake, most of those sellers are getting their pins from China directly......
    I have sold a few pins and pin sets on eBay, my listing say my pins are NOT scrappers and I do offer refunds (buyer to pay return shipping) if the buyer is not satisfied. I haven't sold many but the ones I've done have been just fine. I wouldn't hesitate to list your pins, list them at higher prices and make sure you say they are not scrappers in your listings, you'll get some hits.
     

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