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"RapidFill" RFID refillable mugs coming back resort wide...

Discussion in 'Disney Rumors and News' started by doconeill, Jul 7, 2013.

  1. Spacedog1975

    Spacedog1975 Mouseketeer

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    OK. I will live. For now :goodvibes
     
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  3. kirstenb1

    kirstenb1 DIS Veteran

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    Couple of points to make.

    WDW is rolling out RFID, yet can't seem to provide decent WIFI to save their lives.

    We're season pass members at Busch Gardens and Water Country. Both parks have a refillable drink program. If you purchase a current cup, your refills are .99. If you bring back an old cup, they're 1.29. Saves the environment, and gives a modest incentive to buy a current year's cup. This is why we visit Busch parks, like Sea World and Aquatica when using our DVC in WDW. They provide an eco friendly policy.
     
  4. doconeill

    doconeill Fastpass Jedi Master DIS Lifetime Sponsor

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    Totally different technologies though.

    RFID is actually relatively easy.

    But frankly, WDW is doing something UNPRECEDENTED when it comes to Wi-Fi. I actually know how they provided CM-level Wi-Fi as well as guest-level 3G phone service without having unsightly towers in view of the parks. But now they are trying to bring guests...tens of thousands of them...onto a Wi-Fi network, and asking them to actually use it. Seriously, this has not been done before, and speaking from experience, trying to get this to work in a moderate office environment reliably is not that easy. I may joke about the Wi-Fi, but frankly I SERIOUSLY don't want to be the one trying to make it work.

    Then again, the Einstein who though that the MagicBands active transmitter should work at 2.4GHz needs to be thwapped hard...
     
  5. darnheather

    darnheather DIS Veteran

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    You said,
    Which I took to mean you were able to drink the 6 oz before you left the CS building. A solution of getting more soda would be to not get ice, drink that down and get ice and soda on the next round in 5 minutes. Just trying to be helpful not trying to be harsh. :goodvibes
     
  6. tjkraz

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    That may be more eco friendly but not wallet friendly.

    I understand the mug purchase is $8-10 and then $.99 for each refill. By the 10th refill you're spending more than Disney would charge. And I suspect most buyers refill their mug more than 10 times over a 14-day period.

    Disney gives you a brand new shiny mug--probably with new graphic design every year or two.

    Of course, Disney only has the refill stations at resort hotels now so it's not really apples-to-apples with an in-park option.
     
  7. Yellowstonetim

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    Never heard of this before. Carbonation is stored under pressure separately and is mixed with water and syrup in the machine. Cold helps everything work better, but isn't a requirement of carbonation, I didn't think. You need pressure (a sealed container) to maintain carbonation no matter how cold..

    Is there a reason it is required? Maybe the cold makes it last longer or mix better? Just curious.
     
  8. jade1

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    :rotfl: Now there can be a second line looking at their smart phone clock to see when they can get a refill that's cold. Maybe a FP+ could be reserved for this. :lmao:
     
  9. disneynutz

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    From a soft drink machine company; "Maintaining your soda temperature is the most important and troublesome parts of any soda dispenser. If soda is dispensed at improper temperatures, you will lose your carbonation and your soda will taste flat. Soda should be dispensed at no more than 40 degrees".

    The dispensers have a cold plate at the bottom of the ice bin that the carbonated water passes through or a ice block next to the carbonator. In most machines the carbonated water line is insulated and has a refrigerated cold water loop running next to it feed by a pump in the freezer section of the machine. Some machines also chill the syrup lines so that the warm syrup doesn't heat up the soda water.

    :earsboy: Bill
     
  10. Yellowstonetim

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    I knew I liked it cold but didn't know it was important to the coarbonation.


    Learn something new every day! Thanks.
     
  11. Disneymommyof4

    Disneymommyof4 Earning My Ears

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    Good point !!
     
  12. maxiesmom

    maxiesmom The Mean Squinty Eye Works

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    Bad. Point actually. The fridges are being pulled and replaced as the current ones are defective and pose a fire hazard. Those dots don't connect.
     
  13. ParrotBill

    ParrotBill Yo ho, yo ho, a parrot's life for me

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    I think that for the correct audience, this will be great.

    I can also have my soda much cheaper when I can grocery shop and stock my room fridge.

    But if this really does extend to water parks and theme parks, it could be well worth it to do this and reduce the cost of drinks all day long when I don't have access to my fridge or don't want to carry a cooler.

    Yes, drinks are a huge moneymaker... but there are times we cannot grocery shop or to spend a half day renting a car really outweights the savings... so we will like the new RFID option better.

    And, I have to say it, I have not purchases mugs in recent years partly because I am tired of watching so many people abuse the system.
     
  14. 5boyz

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    I only read thru part of this thread so if this has already been asked and answered I apologize....does anyone know if this has started at POP? :blush: Thanks!!!
     
  15. doconeill

    doconeill Fastpass Jedi Master DIS Lifetime Sponsor

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    Edit: confused with Fastpass+ threads... :)

    This is supposed to be going in Real Soon Now at the All-Stars. No specific dates mentioned. For that matter, Disney hasn't even confirmed it yet.
     
  16. DisneyFan82

    DisneyFan82 Earning My Ears

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    This should be interesting. I am sure it wont be long until someone figured out a way to beat the system. They always do!!
     
  17. 5boyz

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    Thank you!
     
  18. Lewisc

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    Take a used paper cup from the garbage or one left at a table. Good chance there will be some refills and time left on many (most?) cups.

    The difference. People who currently bring back old mugs think it's allowed or pretend to think it's OK. People filling bug gulp mugs see people filling old mugs and decide the policy must be free soda for all.

    New system removes that doubt and clearly puts those people in the category of shoplifters.
     
  19. Reddog1134

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    Having this posted at every dispenser makes that seem less like "I didn't know" and more like "I didn't care".

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  20. 5boyz

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    Glad I only use the hot water for tea that I bring from home. :rolleyes1
     
  21. DizCaptain

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    To be honest I think this is going to be a pain. Scanning mugs to get soda, time limits, the inevitable defects in the system, and not to mention the inevitable crashes. What happens when the system goes down? Can people still get drinks?

    The problem with implementing this time-lock system is that in adding the extra measures, they're also adding extra risk. Sure, people can't bring back a mug they purchased last month and use it, but now there runs the risk of someone's chip not being activated properly, expiring early, getting stuck in the "locked" mode, etc. Lines for beverages will build as people will not understand the whole "scan and fill" procedure, I'm sure.

    And I am being critical of this system. Is that wrong? No. I'm sure Disney has thought of these things as well, but nothing is ever perfect, every system has its flaw. Just to appeal to those who love this idea, yes, it is fantastic that we can now have controlled portions of beverages, and people will stop abusing the machines. We are on vacation after all.
     

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