Rainforest Room Passes: multiple single day vs length of cruise (Dream & Fantasy)

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I am reaching out to the collective wisdom of the Forum because I reached out to DCL via email and the response I got back did not in any way, shape or form answer my questions. I have sent them another email, but they are taking longer than usual to respond and I am hoping with your collective wisdom I may get an answer here faster and perhaps more accurate :-)

Last fall we (sister and I) sailed on the Fantasy and purchased the on-board length-of-cruise “couples” Rainforest Room Pass. We loved the Room, most especially the heated chairs. I spent a LOT of time on those heated chairs. To be honest, I think I only used the fancy showers of the Room maybe twice (once to try them, the second time because I thought I should since we had the pass...). And the hot tubs two or three times. It was all about the chairs :-) Did I mention the chairs ?? I even fell asleep on one once or twice. I found it great for cuddling down with my tablet and reading, or just relaxing. The sunsets were pretty spectacular, too (and nicely sheltered from the wind). We used it at least once a day, every day.

Ok, enough about my love for the heated chairs.

My real reason for coming to you.

I got home and I did some math. And I realized that it LOOKS LIKE a person would do better $-wise by just buying enough pre-purchase single day passes to cover off each day than to buy the on board length of cruise pass. I was a little miffed.

This December we are doing a B2B on the Disney Dream: 3 night followed by a 4 night. So I ran the math again. The Rainforest Room (RR) pass numbers come from a September 2015 Navigator (via the DisneyCruiseLineBlog site's Personal Navigator repository: http://disneycruiselineblog.com/personal-navigators/ Thank You!!). Because the last day when everyone gets off the ship the RR is closed to departing guests, that day is not counted. For simplification I am ignoring the automatic 18% gratuity since it is on both prices (and makes the difference higher).

Here goes:

According to recent Navigators, the price of the "Rainforest Deluxe Cruise Pass" for the 3 night Dream is: couples $102 and singles $69. For the 4 night the price is couples $144 singles $101.

To buy before-the-cruise-pre-purchase single day RR passes:

For a 3 night cruise:

$16 x 3 days = $48 and * 2 people = $96
this is still less than the $102 couples price for the onboard pass, and quite a difference from the singles $69 price.
(savings of multiple single days:: $6 from couples; $21 from single)

For a 4 night cruise:

$16 x 4 days = $64 and * 2 people = $128
this is an even bigger amount less than the couples $144 pass and even greater for the singles $101 price.
(savings of multiple single days: $16 from couples; $37 from single)


It appears on the surface that just buying each person 3 and 4 RR single day passes is a cost savings over the "cruise pass".

You would save even more if you were a party of 2 where one person wanted every day and the other person only one or two days and you purchased single day passses accordingly (if my math is correct and confirmed by you guys, we may do this as my sister grumbled something about not wanting the heater chairs... I mean the RR… each day... I must have heard her wrong though!!).

So…



What am I not understanding ?

What is the difference(s) in benefits, functions, etc, between the pre-purchased single day passes and the onboard cruise pass, other than the cost savings of buying single day passes ?

If we pre-purchase multiple single day passes are we guaranteed to be able to use them on the days we want to (i.e. every day) ?? I know with the onboard RR cruise pass you are guaranteed to be able to use the RR whenever you want that the RR is open (unless at a given specific moment they were to hit their legal safe occupancy capacity of course, then you can come back later).

Are there other options ?

The RR cruise pass is a "deluxe" pass. What does "Deluxe" mean ? Is there is a non-deluxe and presumably less expensive cruise pass ? If so, what is the difference between the “deluxe” and “non-deluxe” pass ? What do we ask for to get this less expensive pass instead of the more expensive deluxe pass which is always advertised in the Personal Navigators ?


Thanks for your help in clarifying this mystery and hopefully helping us and others save some $.

SW
 
You are correct that the math doesn't make sense. There was a huge jump in the price of the length of cruise pass from my 7-day Dec 2012 cruise at $99 to my Sept 2015 7-day cruise at $144 - single pass. My understanding is the length of cruise pass now includes body scrubs. That's it.

I'm with you for my love of the title loungers. I used them alot on my first cruise. This past cruise I pre purchased four one day passes. After my first day, I turned the remaining passes in for a treatment. I still loved the loungers but it was not a peaceful place like my first cruise. People were talking loudly, I think enjoying cocktails on the chairs. While in the steamroom (my second favorite) I had to listen to a couple using the showers, yelling back and forth to eachother their comments about each shower. Again, not peaceful. No staff was there to reinforce the quiet area.

I used the rainforest room the day of my treatment with similar experiences. I guess I should have brought my headphones and own spa music. But that wouldn't help me in the showers or steamroom.

My advice is to go with the day passes. I hope you enjoy the loungers without the distractions of others!
 
Glad to find someone else who also enjoyed the tile loungers. :-)

We were fortunate to not experience any noise issues -- most of the times I visited I was the sole visitor or there were only a couple other people using the RR. And I found staff was in and out of the RR frequently, replenishing towels and such. What I found annoying until you got used to it was the whistle of the wind coming from the hot tub deck area (not sure if it was from that deck area directly, or if it was from the wind coming through the small gap in the door TO that space... either way....) and the noise from the doors letting people in and out of the tile lounger room. I found I got used to it pretty wuickly... but one of the time I fell asleep on the lounger I am pretty sure it was the swoosh of the door that woke me up :-)

We can't do body scrubs (allergies), so that is another reason to go for the cheaper multiple single day passes - no need paying for something you can't use.

SW
 
Your math is correct. It is less expensive to buy single day passes than length of cruise passes for the most part. The cost difference is due to the scrubs included on a length of cruise pass. Interestingly enough, I saw a sign on a recent Dream cruise that offered two types of length of cruise passes - one was a "deluxe" that offered the passes with scrubs. The other was a pass only that was price comparable to single day passes. FWIW, it is much quieter in the Rainforest Room on the classic ships than the Dream class ships.
 

Your math is correct. It is less expensive to buy single day passes than length of cruise passes for the most part. The cost difference is due to the scrubs included on a length of cruise pass. Interestingly enough, I saw a sign on a recent Dream cruise that offered two types of length of cruise passes - one was a "deluxe" that offered the passes with scrubs. The other was a pass only that was price comparable to single day passes. FWIW, it is much quieter in the Rainforest Room on the classic ships than the Dream class ships.

Where does one use these scrubs anyway? Is it one certain shower that you use them in before going into the others? Seems like a good idea at the beginning of cruise but NOT after a long day in the sun. Opinions? I do love the H2O body butter though!
 
Interestingly enough, I saw a sign on a recent Dream cruise that offered two types of length of cruise passes - one was a "deluxe" that offered the passes with scrubs.

On our second Dream cruise, 10/2014, we bought the length of cruise pass (for a 4 nighter, LOL, we're such suckers). They sold us the full cost one, then for two full uses of the RR we weren't given the scrubs, not knowing we were supposed to have them. They finally mentioned them, said we hadn't bought them, then looked at what we had paid and handed them over. So they've had separate prices for awhile now. It's just not obvious. If we hadn't been talking to another couple we would never have known.

Where does one use these scrubs anyway? Is it one certain shower that you use them in before going into the others?

In the steam room.

I personally *hated* them. I wanted them because we had paid for them, but they caused me to be overwhelmingly hot in the steam room. I *love* a steam room, I adore a sauna. I can stay in them for ages, which of course you shouldn't do but I do it because I'm an adult and know what I can deal with. But with the scrubs it was like every single pore of my skin was blocked (probably there's no "like" in there, as it's almost certainly the actual case) and I could not even handle the "allowed" 20 minutes in the hot room. I was miserable. And slimy.


I definitely came to the conclusion that the individual day passes are best.
 
Wait... Do you mean the "scrubs" are not a spa treatment but just a jar of goop they hand you?

Thanks for the tip! I was planning on purchasing the length-of-cruise pass for myself and my adult daughter. Now I'll just buy a collection of day-passes.

I had a spa treatment once where you got deliciously scrubbed with a coarse full body masque then baked in a sauna for a while. After the treatment dried, they rubbed it off with moist towels and moisturized you. It was kind of like a facial for your whole body. I guess I thought the price difference for the Rainforest passes was a bargain because it included a spa treatment "scrub" something like that.

Thank you,
WanderLit
 
We sailed back to back cruises on the Dream Dec 11-14 and Dec 14-18 2015.

I took a picture of the Rainforest Room length of cruise passes sign in the spa on the first day of each cruise. Here is the info from the signs (first part on both signs is the same; only difference are the pricing lines):

Rainforest

Tropic Showers,
Warm Ceramic Loungers,
Steam Hamam, Warm Sauna,
& Traditional Steam Room

3 Day Singles Cruise Pass - $42
3 Day Singles Deluxe Pass - $69
3 Day Couples Cruise Pass - $75
3 Day Couples Deluxe Pass - $102

====

4 Day Singles Cruise Pass - $56
4 Day Singles Deluxe Pass - $101
4 Day Couples Cruise Pass - $99
4 Day Couples Deluxe Pass - $144

=====

The Deluxe passes include scrubs, the other passes do not. There is an additional 18% automatic gratuity added to the above costs.

After calling to order multiple day passes in advance, the CM we spoke to convinced me to buy a pass and day passes on board. I am glad we waited until we were on board -- my sister in the end decided she did not want any rainforest room, so we only bought the cruise pass for me; and it is cheaper than 3 and 4 day passes (see math in previous post).

SW
 
Wait... Do you mean the "scrubs" are not a spa treatment but just a jar of goop they hand you?

Thanks for the tip! I was planning on purchasing the length-of-cruise pass for myself and my adult daughter. Now I'll just buy a collection of day-passes.

I had a spa treatment once where you got deliciously scrubbed with a coarse full body masque then baked in a sauna for a while. After the treatment dried, they rubbed it off with moist towels and moisturized you. It was kind of like a facial for your whole body. I guess I thought the price difference for the Rainforest passes was a bargain because it included a spa treatment "scrub" something like that.

Thank you,
WanderLit


Yes, the scrubs are a container of goop they hand you for you to use yourself.

If you plan to use the rainforest room each day of your cruise and do not want scrubs, the length of cruise non-scrubs pass is a bit cheaper than day passes; if there are two of you the length of cruise couples pass is an even better deal.

SW
 
How would one order the one-day passes ahead? Calling them? A shame they don't detail and sell this on their website...
 
How would one order the one-day passes ahead? Calling them? A shame they don't detail and sell this on their website...

You have to call or fax them, as the passes are not sold online, however the information is available on their website, under "In-room gifts and shopping":

http://disneycruise.disney.go.com/in-room-gifts-and-shopping/

Choose your departure port and then look under "Spa & Merchandise Pre-purchase Options"

QUOTE:


Rain Forest 1-Day Pass

Item SPA RAIN PKG


Enjoy a one-day pass for the blissfully relaxing Rain Forest. Receive a gift message card in your stateroom to redeem at the Vista Spa & Salon or Senses Spa & Salon. Please note, an 18% gratuity will automatically be applied to all spa services.


$16.00 USD
Tax not included
 
You have to call or fax them, as the passes are not sold online, however the information is available on their website, under "In-room gifts and shopping":

http://disneycruise.disney.go.com/in-room-gifts-and-shopping/

Choose your departure port and then look under "Spa & Merchandise Pre-purchase Options"

QUOTE:


Rain Forest 1-Day Pass

Item SPA RAIN PKG


Enjoy a one-day pass for the blissfully relaxing Rain Forest. Receive a gift message card in your stateroom to redeem at the Vista Spa & Salon or Senses Spa & Salon. Please note, an 18% gratuity will automatically be applied to all spa services.


$16.00 USD
Tax not included

Anyone ever order the one-day passes ahead by placing it on the order form linked above??
 
Do they charge you the 18% gratuity on the one-day passes ordered through the "In-room gifts and shopping"?
 
Do they charge you the 18% gratuity on the one-day passes ordered through the "In-room gifts and shopping"?
Sounds like it's added only for SPA SERVICES...?? Is this access considered a "spa service", or do they mean if you get a massage while you're there?

"Rain Forest 1-Day Pass
Enjoy a one-day pass for the blissfully relaxing Rain Forest. Receive a gift message card in your stateroom to redeem at the Vista Spa & Salon or Senses Spa & Salon. Please note, an 18% gratuity will automatically be applied to all spa services."
 
Am I the only one who feels like I'm going back in time wrt this order process?! Call or fax?? Why not just have this set up like the excursions are, where we can just book online?? Eesh.
 
Anyone ever order the one-day passes ahead by placing it on the order form linked above??

Although in the end I decided to go with purchasing a length of cruise pass on board ship, I did call the # and speak with a CM, originally intending to purchase multiple day passes by phone. After my conversation with the CM, I decided the length of cruise pass was a better and cheaper option for me.

However, while on the phone I did purchase two holiday stockings. I told them what I wanted, gave my credit card info (it was charged right away) and the stockings were in our stateroom when we arrived at it.

I know multiple people and have read many many posts by people who have bought the rainforest day passes by phone and been very happy [well, aside that they had to call and could not do it online].

To the other poster asking about the 18% gratuity, yes it is charged on one day passes and on the length of cruise passes.

SW
 
Although in the end I decided to go with purchasing a length of cruise pass on board ship, I did call the # and speak with a CM, originally intending to purchase multiple day passes by phone. After my conversation with the CM, I decided the length of cruise pass was a better and cheaper option for me.

However, while on the phone I did purchase two holiday stockings. I told them what I wanted, gave my credit card info (it was charged right away) and the stockings were in our stateroom when we arrived at it.

I know multiple people and have read many many posts by people who have bought the rainforest day passes by phone and been very happy [well, aside that they had to call and could not do it online].

To the other poster asking about the 18% gratuity, yes it is charged on one day passes and on the length of cruise passes.

SW
Excellent!! Very good to know - thanks!! I am so used to being an old pro at planning our WDW vacations... totally lost on this first cruise, so all of this helps so much!! :)
 
One thing to remember on doing the math for a three or four night cruise is unless using a day pass after dinner (once all the open houses finish) your first night at sea, you should always buy one day less (assuming you'll use each day).
 
Yes, they do. The cost ends up being $18.88 per pass. They will charge your credit card immediately when you order.

Anyone know if when you pre-purchase a day pass if you have to specify which cruise it is for? We are doing a B2B and I want to buy some for both. Thank you!
 

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