Pin Trading

kharoof13

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If there is already a thread or post explaining pin trading and how to get started, can someone please direct me there? I've been to DLR almost every year since I was a kid and I have never done pin trading. As I've gotten older and even more in love with Disney, I would love to get started in the pin trading world. I'm just afraid because I'm kind of unsure where to start and I heard that there are a lot of fakes on the Internet that I don't want to accidentally get. Can anyone help?
 
Yes, there's a lot of fakes, although even some of them look pretty good. I'm no expert as I stopped buying 5 years ago, but it's a great way to "memorialize" the magic of your trip. Gosh, just talking about it makes me feel that bug to go buy!
 
Pin trading can be a lot of fun, but it can also be very addictive and expensive! I love to trade pins and it's a major part of my trips to Disney, but I only trade with Cast Members.

How to Trade: Essentially, you purchase some pins (there are many options for where, how, etc.) and then take them with you. You'll see CMs that are wearing lanyards (either neck or hip) of varying colors (e.g., black, maroon, green/teal). The green/teal lanyards are for trading with children only. When you see a CM with a lanyard, you just go up to them and ask if you may look at their pins. If you see one you like, you offer to trade one of your pins for that pin. Aside from a few limitations, the CMs cannot refuse a trade.

The CMs can only refuse to trade if the pin you are offering is already on their lanyard (i.e., a duplicate), if the pin is not in good condition (i.e., scratched image, broken, etc.), not a Disney pin (no Disney copyright on the back), or not a pin (i.e., buttons cannot be traded). For the CMs, they only have to trade the pins on their lanyards, so any service pins that they might be wearing on their costume or nametags are not for trading.

Disney has published some guidelines:
http://disney.go.com/eventservices/howtopintrade.pdf

In addition to the neck or hip lanyards that CMs may be wearing, you may also find pin boards, books, or other objects (e.g., I’ve seen a life preserver at OKW ). Those can have lots pins to look at. The trading rules are the same, as with the CM lanyards. Some boards/books/objects are out at all times, but others may only come out at certain times.

In terms of the CMs that wear lanyards, look in the shops, at the ride entrances, janitorial, management, and (sometimes) security. The ride operators and loaders tend not to have lanyards.

Costs: Pin trading can be very expensive, especially if you buy pins after you get to Disney. Disney sells individual pins (don't buy these for trading – they’re very expensive) and starter/booster sets. Starter/Booster sets are usually sets of 7 or so pins for about $30. If you run out of pins or decide to start trading after you've arrived, booster/starter sets are your best bet. Other sources include the Disney Stores, Disney Outlets, and the DisneyStore.com. I would keep an eye on the DisneyStore.com's clearance section for good deals. You can also buy pins on eBay or non-Disney sites, but be careful. Those can often be scrappers/ counterfeits /fakes, especially if they're super cheap (e.g., less than a few dollars per pin).

Caveats: there are a few other things worth noting about trading. The first are the "professional" traders and the second are "scrappers".

Professional Traders: My advice is to be wary of the professional pin traders. These are the non-CM traders that are sometimes found outside of the store in Tomorrowland, Frontierland, and over in DTD (they might be elsewhere, but that's where I've seen them). These folks do not have to trade with you nor do they have to adhere to the Disney trading guidelines (e.g., one pin for one pin). I'm sure some of them are nice folks, but I would be cautious when approaching them for a trade because for many of them this is a business so they're out to get the most valuable/expensive pins possible from you. So if they will trade your pin for their pins, that's probably fine. If they ask you go buy a pin or pins for them, I'd walk away. If you're new to pin trading and do not have a sense of the value (in terms of dollars) of the various pins, I'd avoid the professional traders.

Scrappers, Counterfeits, and Fakes: The second issue is scrappers, counterfeits, and fakes. For some folks this matters, for others it does not. You'll need to decide which camp you are in before you get heavily into pin trading. To the average pin trader, I don't think the difference between a scraper, fake, or counterfeit really matters (because none of these are legitimate pins), but there are slight differences.
  • A scrapper is a pin that looks legitimate, but is not. It can be a factory overrun (i.e., the factory was contracted to make 1 million, but they made 1.1 million instead) or a pin that has some kind of error that should have been "scrapped".
  • A counterfeit pin is a copy of legitimate pin made by someone that was not contracted by Disney.
  • A fake is a pin design that was never authorized by Disney.
Unfortunately, it's not always easy to tell what pin designs are fake unless you know a lot about pins and what designs have been released. These pins can often look like legitimate designs and may contain all of the markings (e.g., copy right) to look legitimate, but they are not. Luckily, I tend to think that outright fakes are the least common type of non-legitimate pins out there.

In terms of the scrapers/counterfeits, those are harder to distinguish the legitimate from non-legitimate. You'll often be able to tell a scrapper/counterfeit because the colors are weird/off, elements are missing or incorrect, or the back stamp (the copy right) is wrong/missing/damaged. Others say you can tell because they feel "rough" or the edges are sharp/pronounced. Sadly, there is no sure fire way to tell a scrapper/counterfeit. My guess is that it’s easier to identify the counterfeits and the scrappers that should have been “scrapped”. The factory over-runs probably look exactly like the ones shipped to Disney, so those are nearly impossible to distinguish once they’re in circulation.

It's worth noting that if you do end up trading with CM, the CM lanyards tend to be filled with scrappers, counterfeits, and (to a less extent) fakes. So if you really dislike scrappers/counterfeit, I would avoid trading with CMs. That's the crux of the argument: those that dislike scrappers/counterfeits feel they cheapen the trading and make it not worthwhile. Those that don't care, tend to say that they like the pin, so it doesn't really matter if it's a scrapper/counterfeit or not (they also say that if you can't tell, does it really matter?). Both points are valid.

eBay: eBay is a popular source for pins, but it can be a tough place to buy legitimate (i.e., non-scrapper/counterfeits/fake) pins. The general rule of thumb is that you buy a "lot" of pins (e.g., 25-pins) and the price per pin is less than a couple of dollars each, you're likely buying scrappers. Also, if you buy pins that come in little baggies (instead of pin cards like the ones you see at the stores in WDW/DLR), those are more likely to be scrappers as well. My recommendation is to look for sellers that are selling pins still on their backing and/or unopened booster sets (also still on their cardboard backing wrapped in plastic). In truth, unless you only buy from Disney directly, it is hard to say whether you'll get scrappers/counterfeits/fakes or not.
 
I read on Mousesavers about a free pin with purchase on the first Sunday of the month. I think it is a free pin with a $25 purchase at the main pin stores. Does anyone know if this is still offered?
 

I've never heard of that offer before, but it would be something worth asking if anyone was in the parks on Sunday.
 
Thank you, figment_jii. I've always enjoyed all your posts, but you really outdid yourself here. My husband has been doing some trading on our last couple of trips, so I passed this link in to him. :)
 
I read on Mousesavers about a free pin with purchase on the first Sunday of the month. I think it is a free pin with a $25 purchase at the main pin stores. Does anyone know if this is still offered?

I'm not sure about that one, but right now some of the shops are selling these mystery character train conductor pins for $3 with a purchase of $30 (not sure if that has to be in pins or general merchandise). Here's the one I got earlier today: http://pinpics.com/pin.php?pin=103289
 
DW usually will purchase pins from EBay before our trips for the kids to trade with. As Figment has mentioned it is tough to determine if a pin is fake or not and we did get some but for the most part the pins we purchased were legit.

Our kids love to pin trade with the CM as it gives them a fun thing to do as we tour the parks. One trip they were looking for different Mickey ear pins while another trip they would look for Star Wars characters with Mickey ears.

Pin trading is a fun thing to do whether you are young or old!:wave:

Have fun trading!
 
The free pin with $25 purchase was offered I think around 2008, but I don't think they do it anymore. They usually had a different theme each month, I think we still have a few of them in our collection. I don't believe they have done this promotion for quite some time.
 
The free pin with $25 purchase was offered I think around 2008, but I don't think they do it anymore. They usually had a different theme each month, I think we still have a few of them in our collection. I don't believe they have done this promotion for quite some time.

2008 sounds about alright, yes. It's not been going on for a long time.

They have a PWP promotion going on at the moment I think. Spend $ 15 (don't quote me on that, may be more) and get a mystery pin for $ 5. Last weekend it were different characters on trains.
 
I buy from mouse pins online. It is my only site I go to. Most are good pins. I always buy a 25 or 50 pin grab bag before our trips. I have never had a pin turned down but i do toss out or give to friends who just like the pin. the ones I don't trust. I guess Id say maybe out the 25 or 50 we buy we deiced not to try and trade 5-10 of them earthier we keep want them or we don't trust something about it. I try not to trade fakes but sometimes you don't know if its fake or not.
We are those who don't care if its a fake or not we are not gonna make money with these. This is all about fun for my family.
I have never had trouble with this site and will not do amazon or ebay unless many here recommended them.
 
I buy from mouse pins online...I have never had a pin turned down but i do toss out or give to friends who just like the pin. the ones I don't trust.
For the OP, I just wanted to caveat the bolded point above...CM will not turn down a trade unless the pin is already on their lanyard, damaged, or featuring a non-Disney character/location (i.e. no Universal Studio pins). Other than that, they'll take pretty much anything, including scrappers, fakes, and counterfeits. Basically, many of the CM just trade pins as part of the job, so they may not know what to look for to avoid scrappers or they may not care. I do also think that there may get in trouble if CMs start rejecting trades because they suspect a pin is a scrapper/fake/counterfeits given how difficult it is to identify scrappers/fakes/counterfeits. I'm not saying that Mouse Pins Online sells scrappers, nor am I saying that that JadeDarkstar is incorrect, I just wanted to point out that just because a CM accepts a pin for trade doesn't mean it's not a scrapper/fake/counterfeit. In terms of Mouse Pins Online, that site comes up on this board and it's a pretty polarizing site. Half the folks love it and the other half have had bad experiences, so I think it's one of those "buyer beware" type places.
 












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