Open on Thanksgiving Day

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  1. SaraJayne

    SaraJayne <font color=red>Stop moving those smilies! <img sr

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    Yup, at least at Walmart.

    Between 8pm and 12am Thanksgiving evening, they had almost 22 million shoppers and sold 5,000 items per second. Five thousand items per second. :sad2:

    Gray Thursday (barf) is here to stay.
     
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  3. snarlingcoyote

    snarlingcoyote <font color=blue>I know people who live in really

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    I think the retailers who are promoting this have backed themselves into a corner now. There are folks like me (we have a Wal-Mart, a Stage, a Rue 21, a couple of Dollar Stores, hardware stores and an Office Depot not including the little Main Street boutiquey places - where I WILL be shopping tomorrow for Small Business Saturday!) who feel even MORE squicky about shopping in their stores, and they've got these madhouses of shopping that probably cost an arm and a leg to staff. . .but has their net for the entire season changed any???
     
  4. LilyWDW

    LilyWDW Going to My Happy Place

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    Because it is Walmart and Walmart is seen as being "evil". It makes a good target so people decided it was time to get upset about it. They don't pay attention to those who point out other non-essential industries have been open these days for years because it doesn't support their argument. It's all about the evils of Walmart and retail in general.
     
  5. kaytieeldr

    kaytieeldr Reserving the right to make jokes out of typos - b

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    Very seriously - when did Small Business Saturday move to Sunday? Not giving you a hard time, but I'm 100% positive today is Saturday.
     
  6. FlightlessDuck

    FlightlessDuck Pluto's personal nose scratcher

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    I was thankful that our local grocery store was open on Thanksgiving. We needed kitty litter and gas before we drove up to the in-law's house.

    But we won't do other shopping on Thanksgiving.

    I don't see my job ever asking me to work on Thaksgving. Even if they did, I am salaried with 27 days of PTO, so i would just take the day off, anyway. There have been times where I worked on a holiday (specifically the 4th of July), and it was an emergency and I was paid overtime.
     
  7. mhsjax

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    Here is the big difference in my eyes, people are not behaving in a very nice way on these pre Black Friday sales, at least at a movie theater people aren't killing each other for a few pennies off. I have worked retail, black Friday and I have worked at a call center for a major credit card on Christmas day and at a hospital on Christmas day. I would take Christmas day at the call center or hospital over any after Thanksgiving day in a retail store. Totally different mentality, and people should have a day of peace before they have to deal with all the greed and pushing and shoving. Does that make me a whiney hypocrite?
     
  8. SaraJayne

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    Small Business Saturday was today. :)
     
  9. LBIJim

    LBIJim Satisfied With Four

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    If an open business benefits or entertains certain people, of course it's logical to be open. Those workers are there to serve THEM!!! But if they're not interested in shopping on that day, it's immoral and evil and the owners are exploiting their poor workers. :rolleyes2:rolleyes2

    Not quite sure what you're trying to say, but at the end, if you're wondering if a store's gross sales will be higher for the entire season by opening on T-giving, I'm skeptical. The people who shopped T-giving night aren't likely to buy another TV or XBox or whatever during the rest of the shopping season. They just bought it earlier than they normally would have. Stores could have saved on overhead and labor by staying closed, and the same amount of gross sales would have occurred before Xmas anyway.

    Even though TG was the earliest it could be this year, and many stores extended their open hours, I'm sure there will be plenty of lame excuses for disappointing sales figures come January.

    Jim
     
  10. snarlingcoyote

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    I realized that this morning!:rotfl: I was having pain management issues yesterday and got the days mixed up. Not to worry. I think most of their sales will be good this week. ;)
     
  11. snarlingcoyote

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    Pretty much. Yesterday was a bit of a pain addled day for me and I was a bit (bit? try a lot!) disconnected.

    All they've done is created an atmosphere where they will spend more to sell items that cost less and made some of their more upscale consumers squicky about shopping with them. That's a win?

    There's a theory out there that's been out there for about, oh, 10-15 years that comes from some Swedish (I think) economist. I could go look it up, but still not feeling well, so that will have to wait.

    The theory is that the huge salaries, bonuses and golden parachutes that are paid to the top officers of companies are very detrimental to the health of companies in the long term. There is no way that these officers will ever feel a real impact in their own lives due to the failures or expenses of the companies they manage. In a strange sense, they are only playing to win, not working for a long-term benefit in their lives or the lives of anyone else, thus they are disconnected in many ways from the reality of what they are doing to their companies.

    In a very small way, Gray Thursday is an example of this. Retailers have bought into the idea of winning over considering the long term cost/benefit of playing the Gray Thursday game, because those making the decisions have only a egotistical stake in the game. (I don't think egotistical is quite what I wanted, but I can't find a better word. Ego-driven?) Maybe I'm wrong and there is evidence that Gray Thursday is so helpful to a company's net for the year that it simply must be done, but I do wonder.
     
  12. mickeysgal

    mickeysgal <font color=blue>Orange you glad I like Knock Knoc

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    Would that include:

    New Year's Day
    Fourth of July
    Memorial Day
    Labor Day

    All national holidays - yet amazingly no outrage over stores being open then.
     
  13. PollyannaMom

    PollyannaMom I was a click-clack champ!!

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    I agree. This is a much larger trend than one huge sale. It's not just retail workers who have to be there on a holiday, it's office workers tied to their cell phones, laptops on vacation "just to check on things", teachers bringing work home on the weekends, and so many others. "Bankers' hours" and "blue laws" and all of those quaint things have disappeared, and I'm afraid the lack of boundries is going to be bad for all of us in the long run.

    So no, I didn't shop on Thursday (or in the middle of the night) and I hope it doesn't get even worse.
     
  14. Albort

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    ironically, some companies find New Year's Eve to be a holiday but no New Year's Day... weird...

    Black Friday
    Small Business Saturday
    Sun? <-- is there any?
    Cyber Monday
     
  15. kaytieeldr

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    You want outrage? I'm (albeit mildly) outraged that so many businesses are closed on an early Spring Sunday observance that isn't even a legal holiday.
     
  16. mickeysgal

    mickeysgal <font color=blue>Orange you glad I like Knock Knoc

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    What is an early Spring Sunday? Easter?
     
  17. BeachGirlFLA

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    Totally agree with this post.
     
  18. mikehn

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    Wonder why jobs are going to China and India? Workers in China and India dont whine and complain.
     
  19. Albort

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    they do, we just dont see them/hear about it. Its actually a lot worse than the US.

    A lot of them has to do with Foxconn and Apple.
     
  20. Poohforyou

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    Really:rolleyes2? And here I thought it was to increase profits.
     
  21. Cannot_Wait_4Disney

    Cannot_Wait_4Disney Ok all you A cattle, get in ...

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    Actually the public spoke, but you're attempting to put words in their mouth they didn't utter. They said they want a bargain. Nothing more. And they've gone for that bargain just the same back in the days when it started at 8 am Friday, 5am Friday, 4am Friday, or midnight. The public isn't going to buy an extra TV because they got one Thursday at 8pm instead of Friday at 5am. All opening Thanksgiving does is shift some shoppers from one time to another and cost all the stores more in electricity and the like. But once K-mart stated opening on Thursdays, I knew it was just a matter of time before they all did. When one store does it, it benefits them. That is until they all do it too and then all it does is cost em all more to stay open the extra hours.
     

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