No Carsland Announcement today at "Around Our World"

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  1. twebber55

    twebber55 DIS Veteran

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    actually it was well received both in box office and critical success

    just because you dont like it doesnt mean the rest of us dont like it
     
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  3. Mouse14

    Mouse14 Wish I was at the Lodge

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    [QUOTE="Red24Red30"

    Avatar quite blatantly attempts to impart not only anti-corporate sentiments, but violence as well.

    Just my thoughts, anyway.[/QUOTE]

    Really? Are you serious right now?
     
  4. CaptDadSparrow

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    By violence are you speaking of the violence by the corporation in that movie?

    Avitar was not anti corporation. It's pro live and let live and might doesn't make right.
     
  5. WDWChloe

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    No comment for Avatarland until I see further progress. That is all.


    As for Carsland... I can see it happening, Though it would be nice to keep it exclusively for DL, since WDW already has TT.

    Then again, WDW has 2 Toy Story shooting attractions...

    All we can do is wait :goodvibes
     
  6. MJMcBride

    MJMcBride Barely lost is barely found

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    Actually critiques were not behind the movie that much

    The movie is an afterthought IMO. I don't think it has staying power in pop culture
     
  7. DRDISNEYMD

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    ~I'm sorry, but this just isn't true. --->AVATAR Awards<--- AVATAR was nominated for nine Oscars and won three. AVATAR received so many nominations and awards from other organizations, where I simply got tired of reading, there are far too many to list here. I didn't like the movie either, but I wouldn't dare make such a claim.

    ~You don't like AVATAR, we get it. Really. :goodvibes

    ~Anyway, I am so happy this Carsland thing is a just a rumor! I just feel like doing cartwheels in the rain or something! Just the thought of those big bright orange cones all over the place at DHS, ugh. It would be so *not* fabulous! :( :goodvibes
     
  8. Red24Red30

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    Yes. And I would appreciate some respect for my opinion, please.

    Regardless of what happened in the movie, when many people left the theater, one of their major feelings was "corporations are evil". Feelings like that make it very hard for people to want to trust or work with corporations. And that's exactly what we need to do for real conservation work to happen.
     
  9. MJMcBride

    MJMcBride Barely lost is barely found

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    Its true. I don't particularly like it. Its not horrible. The awards listed are all essentially effects awards as well as sound and the like. Thats fine. That doesnt make it a great movie. It got fairly good reviews. Not phenomal but the critics didnt fall in love with it. The visual effects were stunning.

    Again I think avatar 2 is much more likely to be Matrix 2 then Potter. It was popular because of a gimmick. To be honest, who talks about Avatar anymore? That is except Disney people who either love the idea or dont

    I just would prefer so many other things: Beastly Kingdom, Australia, Middle Earth, Mysterious Island, Oz
     
  10. twebber55

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    it was nominated for BEST PICTURE and won 3 oscars...sorry you re wrong the facts back it up...we get it you like it...but why get on the avatar threads if you you dont like it so much? it fits perfectly into AK's theme and is incredible in its looks hich is what makes a theme park setting immersive
     
  11. Red24Red30

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    In McBride's defense, the number of Oscars a film has won does not make it a good movie. That's just your opinion.

    Just like your opinion about Avatar fitting into DAK's theming. I don't think it does. I think it would fit better at DHS due to its cinematic nature and popcorn-friendly action scenes. To me, DAK's theming is more grounded. Sure, there are dinosaurs and even a yeti, but these creatures are a part of earth's history and rich culture, not some far-off fictional moon produced by Hollywood. DAK should be about appreciating our planet. Let's showcase the amazing creatures and cultures that are here and deserving of our appreciation.

    Just my opinion, of course.
     
  12. DRDISNEYMD

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    ~It is a huge, notable accomplishment for any sci-fi or blockbuster film to be nominated by the Oscar Academy for Best Motion Picture, along with 8 other nominations. Avatar grossed almost $3 Billion dollars and won 3 out of 9 Oscars, along with a host of other nominations and awards.

    ~There are two more film installments set to be released. Currently, movies theaters aren't even equipped with the technology needed to facilitate the proper showing(s) of Avatar 2 & 3.

    ~Cameron has even assembled a team to support and assist movie theaters in acquiring the necessary updates. It will take a few years for all theaters to be updated.

    ~With that said, the movie doesn't matter. Again, I don't like Avatar the film. I could not get past the first thirty minutes, but I am so thrilled about Avatar-land.

    ~Animal Kingdom is a theme park, not the cinema. I'm not thinking about a screenplay or how "good" a movie was, when I'm on a ride or walking through a land. I could not care less. When I'm on ToT, I don't think about Twilight Zone the movie, or "Song of the South" when I'm on Splash Mountain.

    ~Avatar is a perfect fit for Animal Kingdom. The film contains a plethora of beautiful, scenic, awe-inspiring content for Imagineers to create something out of this world. I want to see something that has never been done before. I want to be transported to another place, a place like no other, not another Carsland! Carsland at DCA is amazing, so I'm not bashing it. However, we don't need two, one will pale in comparison. Guess which one, lol?

    ~StarWars-land belongs at DHS. Along, with a much needed expansion on the Pixar theme. Done.

    ~What's even more telling is the New Fantasyland. The grand opening ceremonies were this week, where is all the frenzy and super long lines? People aren't even talking about it, much less lining up to see it. :(

    ~If you don't like Avatar-land that's perfectly fine. I just don't understand this need to try to justify it, by bashing the film. That is so totally beyond lame, it makes no sense, especially since Avatar was a huge success.

    ~Avatar - Awards & Nominations

    ~IMDb rates Avatar "8 out of 10"

    ~Roger Ebert gives Avatar "4 Stars"

    ~Richard Roeper gives Avatar an "A-"

    ~Rotten Tomatoes -TOMATOMETER "CERTIFIED FRESH"

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    ~What do Yetis, Dinosaurs & Dragons have to do with conservation?!? Animal Kingdom is a fun theme park, not a historical museum. I have plenty here where I live, I don't visit Disney for that. I have yet to hear one good solid argument as to why Avatar is not a good fit for AK. Not one.

    ~If it helps at all, try to think of Avatarland as "Disney's adaptation of Avatar." You've never seen that -- so how can you judge? We have no idea how Imagineers will interpret and translate this film into a themed land. I believe in Disney magic and trust Disney's Imagineers and James Cameron's team to create something beyond amazing! I cannot wait for more details! Avatar-land will be fabulous! :goodvibes
     
  13. DaniH

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    I really hope they make Carsland happen at DHS. I know alot of DL fans don't want it to be there because they want it to stay unique to California Adventure but not everyone can make it to California. I live in Michigan and the airfare to California for a whole family is just to expensive, not to mention the length of a flight like that with 2 kids being torturous! My kids have grown up with Cars. Star Wars land would be cool but more for my husband & I & our oldest son than our littler kids. They just aren't that into SW. Being able to spend a day IN Radiator Springs would be something we would all love (my younger son is not so excited about New Fantasyland). I am guessing they didn't talk about it because they don't want to steal New Fantasyland's thunder (ha! Ka-Chow!) I'll bet there will be an annoucement in the next few months.
     
  14. Mouse14

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    This is rumors and news, don't you know respect isn't allowed here trust me I know... Im mind boggled on how avatar sends a message that corporations are evil??? It's a movie....
     
  15. twebber55

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    i agree with most of what you said except for the part about oscars and critical success does not make it a good movie...when you have critical success as well as box office success it defines being a good movie...i hated drinving miss daisy is it therefora bad movie..nope great movie that i didnt care for

    just my worthless 2 cents of an opinion
     
  16. twebber55

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    well said you ve just said every point that needs to be made
     
  17. Red24Red30

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    Although movies are usually created primarily for entertainment, many are designed to send a message as well. Watch Blood Diamond; it sends it's message about as subtly as Avatar does.

    If you hated Driving Miss Daisy, it's a terrible movie from your point of view. For the people who like it, it's a great movie. Same with Avatar; it's all subjective. Saying that a movie is objectively great is flawed logic: opinions cannot simultaneously be facts.

    You could say that Avatar made such-and-such amount of money. You could say that it won however many awards. Those are facts. But when you say it's "great", that's an opinion.

    Since you asked...

    Expedition Everest's story is about respecting nature. When people start taking the trains up the Forbidden Mountain, the sacred guardian becomes protective. The conservation theme is to respect nature from a safe distance.

    Dinosaurs fit in with two conservation themes: first, they encourage us to learn more about earth's natural history, and second, the fact that they are extinct makes us look to our own responsiblity in preserving today's animals. While the dinosaurs faced an unstoppable apocalypse, we have the power to help the animals of today. One of the messages I used most often at the Dinoland Kid's Discovery Club station was to ask children "what can we do to help make sure animals don't become extinct?"

    As for dragons, we all know the Beastly Kingdom was scrapped. However, if it was built, the conservation theme could easily be applied because mythical creatures were inspired by mankind's awe of animals. I could see myself asking kids "what animals do you think are most like dragons? Reptiles? Dinosaurs? Did you know you can see REAL dragons on the Maharajah Jungle Trek (Komodo dragons)?" Then the child goes and explores another land (Asia) where she learns about the Komodo dragon and perhaps is inspired to learn about the other fascinating creatures of the continent. Mythical beasts show just how important animals are to our diverse cultural heritage across the world, and are a great way to connect guests to the creatures of the world.

    You may think that I'm really stretching to apply conservation themes to these attractions, but having worked in the conservation education department, I know that the Imagineers purposely added a whole bunch of conservation theming into the queues, rides, and scenery. For instance, there is a multi-part stone tableau near the end of Maharajah Jungle Trek that depicts people living in harmony with nature, but then they start to abuse nature with deforestation and poaching. This causes mother nature to intervene with natural disasters, prompting the people to once again live in harmony with nature.

    Did you know that the multi-colored, animal-themed benches all around Discovery Island are all made out of 100% recycled plastic grocery bags? Or that the reason they don't give you a lid when you purchase a drink is so what they won't find their way into animal enclosures?

    You are right that Animal Kingdom is a fun theme park. It is not a historical museum. But to say that it's not also a place to learn and be inspired to take action is wrong. Guests can play educational games at the KDCs, interact with cool conservation props and keepers in the Oasis, spend time at Conservation Station, donate to the Disney Worldwide Conservation Fund and receive a cool pin, observe the enrichment sessions at the tigers and siamangs, observe veterinary surgeries, talk to the cultural interns in Africa or Asia, watch Harambe School, listen to the conservation messages during Flights of Wonder, view the many themed field researcher journals or listen to the conservation education staff along the nature trails (fruit bat presentation, gorillla talks, etc.)

    True, they probably have many similar educational features at your local zoo. But I guarantee you they don't do it like Animal Kingdom does. DAK has some of the best veterinary, keeper, conservation, and animal management staff in the world. Even the KDCs are intricately themed by Imagineering, and include immersive games also developed by WDI.

    I'm sorry that when you visit Animal Kingdom you ignore all of the seamless effort that Disney puts into the conservation theme.

    You're right; you probably have zoos back home, but none of them match the quality of Disney in terms of fun, theming, and dedication to conservation. In my opinion, not even the San Diego Zoo does it so well. With DAK, Disney has made conservation education fun. Next time you visit, I urge you to take the time to learn something about the amazing wildlife and the things you can do to help. You might be surprised by how fun and fulfilling Disney makes it!
     
  18. KCharming

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    Except DL is too expensive to go to! With the on property hotels ripping off guests with an obscene nightly room fee. I live in Denver and prefer WDW because you can actually stay on property without paying over 2000.00 oh and WDW doesn't charge for the Magical Express. It would be a good extension to WDW because more families request there and DL.
     
  19. KCharming

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    WDW has beat it's older brother. more room, bigger castle, cheaper rates, I could go on and on. WDW is the better choice when it comes to a family vacation.
     
  20. Peter Pirate 2

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    So you never get to experience Cars Land unless you go to Cali, would you somehow feel cheated or upset if they instead built a fantastic Monsters, Inc. land at MGM that no one else has?

    The key is imagination and quality and sequels, duplication and such just isn't good enough, IMO. They're making the big bucks, we the public should DEMAND they earn it.
     
  21. twebber55

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    Semantics. So michael jordan sucks im not wrong my opinion = flawed logic. Your point of view all art is subjective monet mozart etc.... Anyway
     

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