NCL Breakaway to have Fireworks

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  1. Capt_BJ

    Capt_BJ So Many Times

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    I was in the CG when DCL began operations and stationed in Port Canaveral - the amounts they load and what they load don't fall under 'explosives' and there is no CG inspection or oversite of any loading of DCL ships other than the regular inspections for security that I am aware of .... they have an approved loading plan that ANY ship could also get. Like I said - all cruise ships already carry an amount of pyro . . .

    Nice guess tho ....

    this one

    I can see DCL wanting to retire risk if possible....but I do NOT see them taking a risk like this if they thought it was a credible risk. If the ship sank, no insurance company could cover the loss better than the Disney Corp. if there was a misfire and some got injured or burned, the cost to Disney is nothing.....hundred million at best

    I don't follow at all . . .
     
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  3. Rogillio

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    Lol, but I love my iPad. She corrects more than she uncorrects....:-). I think
     
  4. CrawfordMomof2

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    I feel the same way about other people's parenting choices. It drives me CRAZY when people have tried to tell me how to raise my children. If you don't know my circumstances, and my beliefs about raising my children,than please keep your ideas to yourself. What works for one child will not work for another.

    Thank-you by the way for your understanding also. I'm glad to live in a time that Autism is starting to be understood, but some people still don't understand, or even want to for that matter. I don't need everyone feeling sorry for us, but a little bit of understanding goes a long way.

    Last summer my husband's employer paid for everyone to go to a theme park by our house as a thank-you for 25 years of production. We went not knowing that the train had a real horn, and boy o boy was Hunter freaked out. He was covering his ears, shaking and crying. So I did what any Mommy would do which was hold him, and try to calm him down. He is big for his age and I have a hard time carrying him. We got him into a quiet restroom, and he calmed down, so all is well. But what kills me is the dirty looks that people felt the need to give us..... I have never been so ticked off in my life!:furious:

    The good news is that that was one of our bad days. He is usually a happy7 year old boy. We are still working on him socializing, but one day at a time. :goodvibes

    Anyway, I'm done with my rant. Thanks again for your understanding! You are very much appreciated! :thumbsup2
     
  5. Rogillio

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    This was about self insurance. I should have said DCL could sell some risk, not retire it. DCL is worth 8X what Loyds is worth so they can only insure Disney up to their worth. make sense?
     
  6. woody73

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    Bull perhaps?

    Woody
     
  7. Tonka's Skipper

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    1. Overall Disney is likely self insured, but may also have some insurance for specail operations., IE DCL.The 4 vessels you will find if you dig deep enough are actually owned by 4 independent companies to limit liability. It is likely they are insured by one or more of the major P and I clubs (protection and indemity). These firms provide very specialized insurance for ocean shipping and vessels.

    2. The four vessels are classed by LLoyds Registry, which does not mean they are insured by lloyds. The lloyds classification sociaty is there to approve the design of the vessel for strutural integrity,stability, operations and seaworthyness. They do routine inspections to make sure the good condition of the vessel is maintained and any needed repairs is done to Class reqiurements.

    3. The USCG Captian of the port would be involved in the fireworks only to check that loading is done safely, with a preapproved plans and stored and handled on the vessel properly and to LLoyds reqiurements.

    4. As to firing them at sea I agree with Captian BJ, at sea they would be in volved, unless something went wrong.

    AKK
     
  8. Rogillio

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    Yeah, that would be our NCL and HAL compared to DCL. Lol

    I know you are hugely anti-DCL as I've seen your posts for years Woody but your opinion is just one opinion as is mine.....nothing more and nothing less.
     
  9. insureman

    insureman Disney Cruise Crazy or so my family tells me!

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    FM Global has been a major insurer of Disney properties for years and it would not surprise me if they have more than a few Lloyd's syndicates insuring DCL at least for reinsurance.
    Interesting 2008 article on Disney's risk manager.

    http://www.riskandinsurance.com/story.jsp?storyId=135237393&query=walt disney world
     
  10. woody73

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    Once again you're wrong.

    I love Disney (just went to DL last week as I've been an Annual Pass holder for over 25 years) and love DCL (Platinum with four more DCL cruises booked). I would hardly consider that "anti-DCL."

    But I cruise other cruise lines as well, and like the strengths each cruise line has to offer.

    Woody
     
  11. Rogillio

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    I'm not wrong woody. I've followed/surfed this board and you are 90% negative towards DCL. I don't have a problem with that as this is an open forum but don't pretend you are unbiased. Anyone can search on your posts and very quickly see a trend!
     
  12. kcashner

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    I attended a lecture by Tom McAlpin when he was president of DCL (he was CFO when the line started). He said USCG approval was needed for the color or the lifeboats and the fireworks. And that each time they do the fireworks they are required to radio that they are starting them and then that they are finished.

    I have NO knowledge as to the accuracy of this info, but it was part of his lecture.
     
  13. Silverfox97

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    Ok, we've been on 7 DCL cruises (6 since 8/2010) and have 4 more booked (next one March 9th!!). I'd say we love DCL. Am I dreaming of some new ports out of the FL ports? Yes. Definitely. Right now, we prefer to cruise more often and we can do so by driving to the port vs. flying. DH & I are totally aware that there are other cruise lines out there that go to new exciting ports (duh), but right now, we are sticking with DCL. That being said, this ship is literally the first non-DCL ship that looks interesting to me. Those mega Allure/Oasis, Epic, Dream (Carnival) ships just don't intrigue us, or DD. The video for this ship put out by NCL is awesome! There are so many cool new & unique features of the ship itself and the staterooms look very cool! It looks totally different; the way the restaurants have outside seating - we would love that!!! I would love to visit the pink sandy beaches of Bermuda!! (On a side note, I had to laugh; this ship out of NY has a 12-night southern Caribbean cruise. If NCL out of NY can have that option, certainly DCL out of freakin' FL could!!!!)

    Now, I live in Tampa, so I'm not going to go up to NY to sail on this ship. The sister ship, the Getaway, is going to have its home port in Miami. If that ship is the same & visits new ports that DCL does not, I might be swayed to try it out!!!

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  14. Disney Dreams

    Disney Dreams Proudly afflicted with TDMA!

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    I am curious as to what makes fireworks "family-friendly"?

    I just have to say she's a dang lucky and fortunate 3 year old.

    - Dreams
     
  15. HappyPeach

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    That sounds cool! I would consider cruising on the Breakaway if it sailed out of Florida.:):cool1:
     
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