Thanks bama-ed, yes I do have directv at home and use one of my receivers, locals I just use my antenna. I have a 18" dish and tripod, I think it's been tipped over too many times, tried for almost 2 hours over memorial day to set up the sat and could get like 3 transponders out of 32, my signal meter showed it was where it should have been and my phone app showed it was pointed in the right direction. Even run the coax through the window and direct to the receiver to bypass camper connections, talked about getting one of the small ones before but for directv, they are not cheap. Ordered one from camping world yesterday, they had a internet special going on at a good price. Will let you know how it works after it arrives I get to play with it for a while. Thanks again for the info!