Maximize FP+ make new reservations under a new MDE*see post 227 before posting*

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  1. ScrapYap

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    You can get a second set of FP+ if you make your new resort reservation on a different MDE than the one you used last time. If you do this, you can get a second set of MBs which will operate independently from your old set. Only one set of these bands will be linked to your park tickets. (The old set, if you have annual passes that are still valid and which were previously linked to your original MDE. The new set, if you are starting with new tickets and link those tickets to your new MDE. DO NOT link your tickets to both MDEs.)

    With the set of bands linked to park tickets, you can get FP+ in advance -- 60 days out if you have resort reservations. You can only have one set of FP+ in advance. The other set of bands (not linked to any tickets) can be used to get a second set of FP+ -- NOT in advance, ONLY in the parks, same-day, at the kiosks. (Keep in mind that this may change at any time - which is why buying MBs for this purpose might not be a great idea).

    You can't get advance FP+ on the second set of bands. This is because bands cannot be assigned FP+ unless tickets have been linked to them. But if you link your tickets to the second set of bands, those bands will become clones of the first set. All the bands will refer back to the same single set of FP+.

    A great way to get a spare set of MBs is if you are planning a split say. If you are making more than one resort reservation for the same trip, make each one under a separate MDE account (you just need separate email addresses to make extra MDE accounts - you don't need to use a different name or address). Then link your tickets to ONE of the MDEs so that you can pre-book FP+ on those MBs. Do *not* link tickets to the second MDE. You can then use the spare MBs for extra FP+ made same day (SDFP+!) in the parks.

    If you make all your reservations under the same MDE (or if you link your tickets to more than one MDE), the tickets and the MDEs will refer back to the same set of FP+. The MBs for all those reservations will be clones of each other. You can only get extra FP+ (made at the park kiosks) if you are using MBs at the kiosks that are not clones.

    If you want to park hop, you would use only one set of MBs at the first park and reserve others for the second park. (You can get FPs from only one park if your tickets are linked to your MDE.) You can only make FP+ in advance at one of the two parks. At the other park, you could get only SDFP+.

    To make FP+ selections at park kiosks, you can use a set of bands from a year ago or a set from a future resort stay that is still a week away. You can also make a set on your park tickets at the kiosks (if those tickets have not been linked to an MDE with a resort reservation -- but in that scenario, you'd have no FP+ in advance, which is a bad idea).

    If you are staying in a room that accommodates 5 people (for example), it might be a good idea to put 5 people on the reservation, even if only 3 will be present. That way, you'll have 2 extra MBs which would not have linked tickets but which could be used for same-day kiosk FP+. Not *every person* on the reservation has to link tickets in order for other people on the reservation - who have linked tickets - to make advance FP+ reservations. You also can't make FP+ in advance for everyone on the reservation by linking only a ticket for one person -- each person who wants FP+ in advance must have a linked ticket on MDE.

    Visiting kiosks at different times of day brings up a variety of attractions (since people are constantly moving their FP times, making their times available -- for instance, you might get a Toy Story Mania FP at a kiosk in the late afternoon when another guest has freed it up). However, there is no guarantee that you'll be lucky. And waiting in line at kiosks is time consuming.

    If you want a difficult-to-snag FP+ at the kiosks, you might want to try for SDFP+ just two of the bands at a time. It's easier for the system to find you two FP+ together than four. Then you can try back later for a second set for the other two people in your group.

    Be aware that Disney may change the way the system operates before you arrive -- and you'll find that your MBs won't function unless your tickets are linked. At the moment, the system allows SDFP+ to be made with unlinked MBs that can be used as extra FP+.

    However, the most important thing is to get your FP+ in advance by linking your tickets to your upcoming reservation. It would be miserable to try to use only SDFP+ as availability continues to shrink. So this won't work for guests who either:
    1. Don't already have a set of MBs from a previous trip that are linked to old tickets
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    2. Don't plan a split stay (for which separate MDEs are used to book each stay and tickets are linked to only one of the MDEs).
    or
    3. Have already made their new reservation under their ticket-linked MDE. You can't unlink tickets (except for special event tickets) once they've been linked to an MDE. You would have to cancel and rebook under a new MDE - probably not worth the trouble.

    At this time, Disney doesn't give you an option to refuse a set of Magic Bands for each stay. If you make 10 reservations under the same MDE, you'll get 10 sets of MBs -- all of which will be linked to your tickets -- all will be clones of each other. You might have 10 different bands assigned to each person in your family -- but you can still only get one set of FP+ in advance. So it makes sense to maximize use of the bands they're going to send you anyway, by making some reservations under one or more separate MDEs (which do not have linked tickets). The MBs sent for those reservations will not be linked to tickets (so again, they can't be used for the golden advance FP+).

    Remember that the FP+ in advance are all you really want. These extras are just scraps. But if you're going to get additional MBs anyway, then consider picking up a few scraps with SDFP+.

    Go to page 36 of the thread for an illustration of how this might work for a family.
    http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3245463&page=36


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  3. wendybeth75

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    I thought you couldn't make FP+ selections unless you had tickets tied to MDE? I'm not sure I follow what you are saying about the old magic bands, as those are tied to the account as well.
     
  4. MOM POPPINS

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    Interesting indeed :) I don't understand are all your magic bands associated with the same ticket... but different mde accounts.. I don't see how this works please explain?
     
  5. dawgsgirl

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    Is there any way to "unlink" your tickets??
     
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    Are you saying if you don't link a ticket to your mde then you never have to link it all.... making the reservation in the park does not make you connect your ticket to your band?
     
  8. ArwenMarie

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    I thought you needed a valid park ticket attached to the band/card to be able to book FP, whether on the app or the kiosk. So you just brought old bands with no ticket attached and they were able to book at the kiosk?
     
  9. hollypoast

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    Interesting. ... I have non - exp. tix from a previous trip on mbe. I just made a resort res. and noticed that is allowing me to order a second set of bans. I wondered if I could do this. Hope it's still an option in Sept! Thanks for posting.
     
  10. Mommy2Corinne

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    This is really interesting! I wish I would have known this before I linked our room add a day reservation to my account this afternoon. As someone said, is there a way to unlink it? I will have 3 sets of bands by our trip in Sept, although what are the odds that they "fix" this "issue" by then?
     
  11. jimim

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    I thought old bands aren't active so how would this work?
     
  12. bwang123

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    might be a loophole they have open because they are still testing with APs and offsite guests. like when FP- was operating along with FP+ and you could use media that wasn't scanned upon entry. If this actually works, I would imagine it will not for long.
     
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    It will be a great perk while it lasts. I will be curious to see how this works for people and like the throwaway room...this will cause some differing feelings....some will be on:cloud9: while other will be :furious:
     
  14. jtowntoflorida

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    Incorrect. All bands are active unless you've deactivated them in your account.

    This is interesting for those of us who have multiple sets of bands for one reason or another. I wonder if we could link our tickets to MDE to prebook, and then use our old MBs in the parks to make more FP+ selections once there. Hmmmm....
     
  15. bwang123

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    Probably not ... from OP "remember to make each resort reservation under a separate MDE account so that each set of bands is entitled to separate FP selections. "
     
  16. ScrapYap

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    To make FP+ *advance* reservations on MDE, you have to link tickets to your account. But then you only get three FPs per person.

    For same day FPs, you can make FP+ selections at any park kiosk with any magic band or any park ticket. We just did it at all four parks. Any magic band. A cast member told me they are intended to work for two years. Once it's activated, it stays activated. Obviously it's not going to work on a resort room door or for charging purchases. But the MB does continue to work at FP+ kiosks in the park indefinitely (or for two years). And the MBs will work for the FP+ reservations you can make online for Beauty and the Beast counter service. (Not through the MDE page, but the link that's out there.)

    So never throw away a Magic Band! Keep them for your next trip. A cast member told me that they will eventually start charging for them.
     
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    The magic bands are NOT associated with the same ticket. This is the important part. They are not associated with ANY ticket. They are just Magic Bands from your past, current, or future resort stay. You don't have to link tickets to your MDE. Just use it to make ADRs and manage your resort reservation. You don't use the Magic Band to enter the park, you use your park ticket. You just use the Magic Band at the FP+ kiosks after you enter the park with your ticket. And, separately, the park ticket. The MB will get a set of FPs, the park tickets will get a different set.

    If you are getting the park passes as a package with your resort stay, this won't work. You want a free standing Magic Band and a free standing ticket -- not linked to each other.
     
  18. Mommy2Corinne

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    So my old set of MBs were linked to a package (resort/ticket/dining) in Sept 2013. But my two new sets of MBs are (or will be when they get here) room only reservations. I haven't bought tickets yet, and I definitely won't link them if you think this will work.

    Do you think the fact that the MBs once were linked to a package (park days long since used up) ruins it?
     
  19. FLchick415

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    I'm not trying to be snarky, but wouldn't this go against the whole capacity thing people are always talking about?
     
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    That's right. You are under no obligation to link your park tickets to your resort stay. And the Magic Bands are intended to work on and on -- for two years after your resort stay. The idea is, eventually, that you'll be encouraged to return with the same MBs. (Which we will all do when they start charging for MBs!)

    You enter the park with your park passes. (If you haven't linked your tickets to your MBs, your MBs wouldn't work to get you into the park, obviously.) Then you walk up to the FP+ kiosk areas (which are not near the park entrances, btw -- which kind of surprised me) with any MBs and they work -- you don't enter a password or anything like that. It doesn't matter that you didn't use them to enter the park. They work at the kiosks all by themselves. You'll be offered various FP options. The cast members are extremely helpful and generally do all the manipulation on the screen for you. After you get the MB set of FP+, you use your park tickets for a separate set of FPs. I don't like to stand there and make the various sets at the same time because it's rude to hog the FP+ area. I usually make one set at a time. And an advantage to going back a little later (there are lots of changes in availability even in a few minutes) is that you'll be given different choices.

    They don't print you a list of your FP times. You have to photograph the screen. When you do that, follow up with a photo of your MBs or your park ticket so you'll remember which FPs are associated with which set of bands or park passes.
     
  21. Raenstoirm

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    I wouldn't concern yourself too much. Its a glitch and i bet disney will fix it very soon just like the fact that old room keys would spit out FP- for a while in there. Its awesome for those that can use it while it lasts!
     

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