We're thinking of trying out VB before our BWV vacation in early December. We are DH, Brother,DSIL,two nephews (5 and 1)& me. Tentatively, our plan looks like this: arrive in Orlando Thursday (late afternoon), drive to VB, stay 3 nights and then drive to WDW & check into BWV on Sunday afternoon. My questions: 1. Will about 2 1/2 days at VB give us a good feel for the resort? What is the weather typically like in early December? 2. Is it still possible (likely) that we could get a members' cash discount at this resort at this time? I thought about renting points, but for this time of year, even full price looks like a better deal than renting at $10/point. Don't have enough points to do the whole thing on points and don't want to borrow due to future plans. 3. Are all of the 2 Bdrm villas at VB ocean view? 4. If it were your family, would you go to VB before or after the WDW portion of your vacation and why? Thanks for any info.