Is it possible to get out of getting my dtr the flu shot?

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  1. luvsJack

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    The difference here is that parents are not demanding anything. And resteraunts are not in the business of taking care of/teaching children.
     
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  3. luvsJack

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    No one is telling you what to put inside your child's body. Only that you have to follow the regs set for preschool age children that are enrolled in preschool.
     
  4. FayeW

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    In my opinion, purely based on the few seconds I took to actually google "fever after a flu vaccine" is that your child did not have a "bad reaction". A fever after a flu shot is an entirely normal reaction for a child to have after a flu shot.

    It that is your only objection to giving your daughter the vaccine, then I agree with the school that it is "not a reason".
     
  5. mjantz

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    Fever is not a bad reaction. Hives marching down your Childs body is a bad reaction. (Egg allergy/She now gets the mist).
     
  6. A_Princess'_Daddy

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    They're not telling parents what to put in their children's bodies. They are telling them that if they want their children to attend pre-school, they are to be immunized unless the parent legitimately object on religious grounds or has an actual medical concern, neither of which does the OP have.

    Or you could follow the law, not lie, and not enroll your child in pre-school. There is always that option, it's just less convenient for the OP.

    Yes, OP's desire to lie in order to not be forced to get a flu shot for her daughter because her sibling may have had a mild reaction to an immunization at an earlier time but that did not even warrant a trip to the doctor at that time is very similar to the stand of those who risked their lives to shield Jews from the Nazis.

    As I said in an earlier post, OP, you have a choice. Lie, don't lie, it's up to you. But don't try to create a mythology that makes it OK or somehow not a lie, because it is.
     
  7. gcarr1426

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    Um, all flu vaccines currently on the market are manufactured using hens' eggs-including the flu mist.
     
  9. mjantz

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    I don't know what the difference is then because it was recommended to us as an alternative to the flu shot when she reacted to it. And, she's had an egg triggered reaction since stopping the shot & starting the mist so I know she still reacts.
     
  10. SaraJayne

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    FluMist contains eggs.

     
  11. Ceila

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    Lying about Santa and Mickey won't hurt anyone else, whereas lying about the vaccine could jeopardize someone with a weak immune system.
     
  12. tinkerbellandeeyor

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    Okay but if I would have gotten anything other then flu which I do get I would be a vegetable today due to my physical disability does that make my parents selfish for making this choice?
     
  13. Ceila

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    Your post is a bit confusing, but I think you are trying to say that, due to some physical issues, you were not medically able to have other vaccines, is that correct? If that is the case, then nobody would think your parents were selfish for not having you vaccinated, they were keeping you safe because of actual medical issues. In fact, people like you are exactly who those of us who do vaccinate are helping. Since you cannot be protected via vaccines, you have to rely on herd immunity. Those who choose to ignore medical facts and refuse to vaccinate their children for no valid reason are the ones who put people like you at risk.
     
  14. tinkerbellandeeyor

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    Yes sorry about the confusing post
     
  15. Ceila

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    no worries! :)
     
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    OP, so what if they know you're lying:
    The emergence of pathogenic virus infections like influenza and HIV have created an urgent need for new vaccines.
    Virus-based vaccines are made in living cells (cell substrates). Some manufacturers are investigating the use of new cell lines to make vaccines. The continual growth of cell lines ensures that there is a consistent supply of the same cells that can yield high quantities of the vaccine.
    In some cases the cell lines that are used might be tumorigenic, that is, they form tumors when injected into rodents. Some of these tumor-forming cell lines may contain cancer-causing viruses that are not actively reproducing. Such viruses are hard to detect using standard methods. These latent, or "quiet," viruses pose a potential threat, since they might become active under vaccine manufacturing conditions.
    Therefore, to ensure the safety of vaccines, our laboratory is investigating ways to activate latent viruses in cell lines and to detect the activated viruses, as well as other unknown viruses, using new technologies. We will then adapt our findings to detect viruses in the same types of cell substrates that are used to produce vaccines. We are also trying to identify specific biological processes that reflect virus activity.

    Researchers have now for over 50 years that vaccines contain cancer cells.
     
  17. Mouse House Mama

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    Well, according to some if you lie about anything including those you have mentioned you will have children who hate you and don't believe anything you tell them because they are scarred for life.:eek::rotfl2: I of course don't subscribe to that.

    As for your second point- if you have a weak immune system then being anywhere puts you at risk. A common cold could be damaging.

    I do want to point out that I find it hysterical that people are so adamant that you not lie about your religious beliefs and just take your child out of the school etc. Seriously? For me, my religion states (condensed version w/o getting in trouble for forbidden topics) that I am supposed to care for my children. Meaning I have to decide what is best for them. So in essence, yes, it is not a lie that my religious beliefs would conflict with the requirement. I know, I know, some will say it is twisting it and wrapping a lie up all pretty. Perhaps to some, but I feel strongly enough that it is my job to make the decisions for my children. So, yes, it does conflict with my beliefs.

    I do love though how so many preach of not lying etc. and then we see 900 posts from people asking if they can pass their 10 year old for 2, or lying about when they are going on a trip to surprise the kids, or writing a letter to the school about how they are taking an "educational" trip to WDW. You (a general you) can't pick and chose what to lie about and get all self righteous because someone might chose something else. Overall I dislike lying and discourage it. I do however think that sometimes it is not the end of the world. I would never tell a person they look horrible even if they do etc.

    I do the best I can to protect my children from harm. I like to think that other parents do as well. Do I always agree with their choices? No. That's okay though, I know they don't always agree with mine. Live and let live.
     
  18. mhsjax

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    My mom tried that with me, I never got the darn things. When I had my kids, my DH and I had to get vaccinated first because neither of us had any immunity to chicken pox. :confused3
     
  19. mhsjax

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    Don't you think that the kid whose parent did have a real religious objection to it, could also be infecting other kids. See how incredibly stupid this it?
     
  20. njcarita

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    where did this info come from???? is it from a peer reviewed paper........???? i worked with Cell lines for a long time...... and dont see how a virus will survive the prep process of producing a vaccine....doesnt make sense to me at all...so i would love to see the theory behind this to see if it makes sceintific sense ......but its not my field of study.....I wasnt a virologist..... just a plain old biochemist.............
     
  21. Robbi

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    Investigating Viruses in Cells Used to Make Vaccines; and Evaluating the Potential Threat
    Posed by Transmission of Viruses to Humans
    Principal Investigator: Arifa S. Khan, PhD
    Office / Division / Lab: OVRR / DVP / LR
    General Overview

    http://www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvaccines/scienceresearch/biologicsresearchareas/ucm127327.htm

    There's more. I also recommend reading Dr. Mary's Monkey.
     

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