I really want to know!!! Cancel your cruise because of the new policy.

[perditax]

I see the judgement is still in full swing. Good times.

 

[Orukal]

RIGHTTT?!? Lol...guess it all about priorities for some!

I would suggest that you stop guessing. It should become obvious at some point that you aren't able to comprehend the myriad of reasons why people are upset about this change. It's not some singular reason of, "Well, now I can't get blackout drunk off of my own alcohol that I brought onboard." The judgemental attitude by those whom this change doesn't effect doesn't make sense to me.

 

[mevelandry]

Who buys 100$ bottles of wine?

Ok, lol, not gonna lie to you... Passed 25$ I don't make the difference between a 25$ bottle and a 100$ bottle.

I don't know enough about wine.

 

[Sytrace]

I've seen that type of response so often in these boards when the two sides of the carry on policy are debated and I find it disturbing every time. Nothing as wonderful as someone saying, "If you find it financially difficult, but doable, to take a Disney cruise, then maybe you should consider a Carnival cruise, instead." I'm in that financially difficult category and we're still going to celebrate my son's completion of chemotherapy for leukemia. I apologize in advance if you still feel that, because of our financial status, we should forgo a Disney cruise and pick a cheaper competitor, instead.

Congratulations on your son's completion of chemotherapy and best wishes for an amazing cruise of family, love and magical memories.
There is nothing quite like Disney magic

 

[Orukal]

Congratulations on your son's completion of chemotherapy and best wishes for an amazing cruise of family, love and magical memories.
There is nothing quite like Disney magic

Thank you very much. His Make-a-Wish was a Disney cruise, so it seemed appropriate and goes along well with our love of Disney.

 

[Sytrace]

Now to the OP question.
We are on one of the last cruises before the alcohol policy takes effect and are not going to go out of our way to bring as much as we can onboard now.
Nor will we stop cruising Disney because of the policy change. By the way, Carnival recently changed their policy on alcohol and water being brought on board so cruising with them would not work out in any case. It appears to be similar if not the same as Disney's policy and they gave a few days notice to their passengers before impletmenting it if I remember correctly. By all means if I am wrong I am quite sure someone will jump right in and correct me.

Out of our soon to be 6 cruises, we have brought liquor on board twice and this did not stop my husband or myself from purchasing a drink here and there from the clubs onboard. Sometimes, you want to have a specialty drink that you just don't have the ingredients for. Or as my drink of choice is Amaretto sour, the only way I would have one (or two) would be from the dining room or one of the bars/clubs. (Meridian is my favorite)

I understand why some folks would feel upset at the changes especially since this is the way it has been for so long and was one of the perks of sailing with Disney. But hopefully the magic and all the other benefits of Disney cruises offer will offset the policy change. And it remains to be seen how strictly this will be held in place.
Happy sailing everyone! Enjoy your time away from worry, work and stress. Whether for a weekend or a week or longer it is stil a great vacation!

 

[MinnesotaMouseketeers]

Actually, the poll response was "profit", not "greed". There is a difference.
And of course the responses trended 90% in that direction. I am sure that you have been reading all of the posts by people who have received calls from DCL to address their concerns. These posts provide all sorts of explanations from Disney that are both contradictory and nonsensical. So of course it is profit driven. What other logical explanation could there be when the cruise line will only allow each person to bring on board 6 beers of 12 ounces each but will allow that same passenger to have 48 beers of 16 ounces each delivered to their cabin waiting for them when they board? And what other explanation but profit could there be when a couple can only bring on board 4 bottles of wine but that same couple can buy a wine package from the cruise line and have 14 bottles of wine waiting for them in their cabin upon arrival? Surely volumetric consumption is not the reason. So doesn't it have to be profit?

There is a difference and I shouldn't have substituted the word profit.

To the second statement in bold, I believe 100% that there have been incidents on board alcohol related; that caused disturbances around the passengers. Taking a step into the lobby of a Disney ship doesn't make that all go away. This could have been included included in that poll. A combination of the choices, could be a choice. Anyone that thinks this has never happened from people that have brought their own alcohol on board is delusional.
What I find disturbing is; if what some have posted that the bartenders are not cutting people off that have had too much to drink.

They can stop the second issue from happening by warning followed by firing the CM that does not stop serving drinks to an intoxicated passenger.
They can stop the first issue from happening by limiting the amount of alcohol brought on board.

As I have stated in the other poll. If DCL puts Casinos on their ships than I know it's all about profits (greed)!

 

[Bdunn]

People need to stop judging DCL about their decision. No one really knows why they did what they did. Can't everyone just accept it, acknowledge that it is right for them, and be happy?

 

[JimmyV]

They can stop the second issue from happening by warning followed by firing the CM that does not stop serving drinks to an intoxicated passenger.

But those bartenders make most of their money from tips, and the boss of said bartender probably used to be a bartender himself. So he gets it. Thus, there is going to be very little incentive to stop a passenger without car keys in his pocket from placing another order. The incidents that you recall have simply been too few and too far between to matter.

They can stop the first issue from happening by limiting the amount of alcohol brought on board.

Again, and I don't know how this can be any more clear, a couple who used to bring 10 bottles of wine on board can now bring 4, and is invited by Disney to please buy this:
BEV7N PREM WINE

And the guy who used to bring 2 cases of beer on board can now bring a six pack, and is invited by Disney to please buy as many of these as he wants:
BEV HEINEK BEER

If you don't know what thosse are, then look them up. To paraphrase your last line...
If DCL stops selling alcohol packages for in-cabin delivery then I know it's all about limiting consumption and curbing ugly incidents! Until then, it isn't about volumetric consumption at all. It is about whose alcohol you are consuming.

 

[MinnesotaMouseketeers]

People need to stop judging DCL about their decision. No one really knows why they did what they did. Can't everyone just accept it, acknowledge that it is right for them, and be happy?

I would disagree with you on this; especially when the policy change is done in such a fashion that it affects the passengers that chose DCL for a certain policy, and DCL changes the policy, and it is within the 'Paid in Full' date when technically you can't cancel your cruise if you wanted to without penalty. I believe these people should be grandfathered in and allow them to follow the old policy; or if it's really that significant of a change to you that you want to cancel you should be able to without penalty.

For all the future cruisers that don't (or do) like the change, they absolutely have the right to let Disney know; they can e-mail, snail mail, call, or get on the DIS cruise board and vent their frustration (civilly please). In the end if the policy is not changed to a persons satisfaction, you can still choose DCL or let DCL know that you are taking your business elsewhere.

I would think that DCL would be interested in knowing what their future clients are thinking. If a policy change actually causes a decrease in reservations they want to know why.

 

[JimmyV]

Who buys 100$ bottles of wine?

Ok, lol, not gonna lie to you... Passed 25$ I don't make the difference between a 25$ bottle and a 100$ bottle.

I don't know enough about wine.

An explanation isn't owed. I don't question people who go jewelry shopping while on their cruise and buy $2,000 tennis bracelets or $7,000 Rolexes. Nor do I question them when they go on a cruise and leave a $1.5 million house behind, with a $90,000 car in the garage. I don't spend my money on any of those things. By comparison, fine wine is a relatively inexpensive luxury good.

That said, I did a quick check this morning on The Wine Advocate database. TWA is the foremost wine rating and tasting note publication in its field. Looking at Cabernet Sauvignon from the 2012 vintage in California, (the most recent vintage to make it market for the most part), of the wines that fit in that category and which scored 92 points or higher on its 100 point rating scale, the average price of such wines is $215 per bottle, and the median price is $150. There are only 3 (out of 146) wines priced below $50 with the average price of those being $40. Now, to be fair, some of these prices are secondary market (auction) prices as many of these wines have instantly appreciated in value immediately upon release. But if you wanted to go out into the marketplace to buy them, this is what you would have to pay. And if I did a similar search for Bordeaux, the prices would be more than double that. And Red Burgundy?? Don't get me started. $275-$450 is the low-end ante for those. The bottom line is that $100 is not an extraordinary price to pay for a bottle of fine wine. And many, many people buy them. I'm not saying that my cellar is stocked exclusively with such bottles. But that was really the point of my earlier post. At any one time after buying/consuming, I might have 50 or so such bottles that I save for special occasions. Birthdays. Anniversaries. Promotions. And, yes, vacations. Especially cruises, though we usually will bring a few bottles with us when we go to WDW as well. So it is nice to be able to choose a cruise line that allows us to treat a cruise with them as a special occasion and pull the cork on one of our better bottles.

And to its credit, DCL mostly gets this, by still allowing a couple to bring 4 bottles with them. I just wish they made the rule "One bottle per night of the cruise, per cabin" so that a 7 day cruise would mean 7 bottles total for the cabin and a 10 day cruise would mean 10, and a 4 day cruise would mean 4. But as compared to Scotch aficionados, I've got far less to complain about.

 

[JimmyV]

especially when the policy change is done in such a fashion that it affects the passengers that chose DCL for a certain policy, and DCL changes the policy, and it is within the 'Paid in Full' date when technically you can't cancel your cruise if you wanted to without penalty. I believe these people should be grandfathered in and allow them to follow the old policy; or if it's really that significant of a change to you that you want to cancel you should be able to without penalty.

Perfectly stated! That is exactly right!

 

[Bdunn]

I would disagree with you on this; especially when the policy change is done in such a fashion that it affects the passengers that chose DCL for a certain policy, and DCL changes the policy, and it is within the 'Paid in Full' date when technically you can't cancel your cruise if you wanted to without penalty. I believe these people should be grandfathered in and allow them to follow the old policy; or if it's really that significant of a change to you that you want to cancel you should be able to without penalty.

For all the future cruisers that don't (or do) like the change, they absolutely have the right to let Disney know; they can e-mail, snail mail, call, or get on the DIS cruise board and vent their frustration (civilly please). In the end if the policy is not changed to a persons satisfaction, you can still choose DCL or let DCL know that you are taking your business elsewhere.

I would think that DCL would be interested in knowing what their future clients are thinking. If a policy change actually causes a decrease in reservations they want to know why.

That was written tongue firmly planted in cheek for the benefit of the "no one should judge anybody crowd."

 

[MinnesotaMouseketeers]

That was written tongue firmly planted in cheek for the benefit of the "no one should judge anybody crowd."

You have to start using the emoticons so people (like me ) don't get confused

 

[sweetpee_1993]

I've seen that type of response so often in these boards when the two sides of the carry on policy are debated and I find it disturbing every time. Nothing as wonderful as someone saying, "If you find it financially difficult, but doable, to take a Disney cruise, then maybe you should consider a Carnival cruise, instead." I'm in that financially difficult category and we're still going to celebrate my son's completion of chemotherapy for leukemia. I apologize in advance if you still feel that, because of our financial status, we should forgo a Disney cruise and pick a cheaper competitor, instead.

Exactly. Elitist, much? It just comes off crass. Ya know, my momma taught me better manners than this. If you have something another kid doesn't you don't make the situation more uncomfortable for them. You share and reach out. It's called empathy. IDK, maybe it's just me, but those comments are distasteful to read. Just me.

 

[sweetpee_1993]

We are becoming a nation of the chronically offended.

IDK. When I see something distasteful I try to just remove my eyeballs because I can't handle it sometimes. Hard to keep my mouth shut. When I see mean-ness to other people in particular. Do you stand there and accept such or do you stand up to that?

 

[sweetpee_1993]

Imma stop reading on this thread because I just cannot.

To answer the title question: not canceling any of my future cruises because I'm commited to other friends to take them. I will be keeping my eyes open for an "out". A topic I plan to discuss when I see my friends next week. I am sailing the Dream this month and will NOT be booking a placeholder. No more. Beyond what I have booked, I have no other desire to cruise with Disney. Unless they roll out something intersting to make it worthwhile, no. I *do* have 3 cruises planned on NCL. I'll be on the Getaway the day after I get off the Dream. I'm super stoked to see my friends...but cruise vs cruise? So much more psyched for the Getaway!

 

[Bdunn]

IDK. When I see something distasteful I try to just remove my eyeballs because I can't handle it sometimes. Hard to keep my mouth shut. When I see mean-ness to other people in particular. Do you stand there and accept such or do you stand up to that?

Standing up for what is right and being offended are two different things, IMO.

 

[wombat_5606]

So you don't get offended when people call you a name, like an alcoholic or cheap? When people say things about you based on a post when they don't know a single thing about you, except you don't agree about a policy change on a cruise line?

I just don't know why people can't debate something without calling people names.

 

[Bdunn]

I must have missed the post where someone called someone else an alcoholic.

I did see the one in another thread where people were called "Judgy McJudgersons", however.