How can we make health care better?

Discussion in 'Community Board' started by eliza61, Apr 1, 2009.

  1. sam_gordon

    sam_gordon DIS Veteran

    Jun 26, 2010
    A 3 1/2 year old thread on health care resurrected by a new user who's only posts (4) are all on health care?

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  3. Robbi

    Robbi DIS Veteran

    Oct 21, 2012

    I need to look at thread dates. This is the 3rd time I've replied to old threads in 1 week.
    I do stand by my post though.
  4. manning

    manning <font color=blue>Just for that I have requested it

    Feb 12, 2002
    Several doctors have said this. They found that many people go to the doctor and don't need to. Years ago I had a $2,700 deductible and had no problem with that. Appreciated it when I had a $50,000 operation.
  5. manning

    manning <font color=blue>Just for that I have requested it

    Feb 12, 2002
    Darn, didn't look at the date either.
  6. tvguy

    tvguy Question anything the facts don't support.

    Dec 15, 2003
    I think we need to cut the cost of health care. My mom is a retired RN.....all the hospitals here are non-profit.. and she always got mad because they all have to spent every penny they they buy expensive equipment of their own, instead of going in with another hospital in the area. So three hospitals within 3 miles of each other each have $1 million plus CT scanners, when there is only enough demand for 1.
  7. westjones

    westjones <font color=blue>Mother of Two <font color=deeppin

    Mar 11, 2002
    Oh darn! I just did a search for this Frontline so I could watch it. I didn't see the date this thread was started. Sounds like it would have been good.
  8. MolonLabe

    MolonLabe DTOM

    Feb 14, 2012
    I wish we could turn back the clock and undo insurance. Or at least insurance in todays sense.

    If it weren't for insurance and people had to pay out of pocket for everything, a pair of Tylenol in a hospital wouldn't cost $75. Health insurance should have been like car insurance is, for emergencies, not for oil changes or fresh tires.

    Alas when everyone (or most everyone) has the attitude "insurance will cover it" people don't shop around, they don't ask questions, they just hand over a card and turn off their brains.

    So how do we fix the broken system we have?

    Competition. Number one, let insurance companies sell across state lines. Car insurance rates were cut in half when this happened in that industry.

    Continuing in competition, allow other health care professionals to handle things only MD's can right now. Ie. a RN writing Rx's for things like strep throat.

    Allow charities back into health care. Eliminate massive red tape and paperwork so more of the health care dollars go to treating patients and not complying with yet another useless bureaucratic rule with no basis in common sense.

    Allow competition for pharmaceuticals by reducing costs for bringing products to market. It would let the little guys compete again and it would lead to better and more choices for consumers and MD's.

    As it stands, the big companies have a virtual monopoly because no one else can afford to comply with current FDA regulations.

    Until we address these cost issues, we can't fix it, and NOTHING that those in washington are suggesting will do anything to improve access, costs or care.

    It's a terrible situation.
  9. manning

    manning <font color=blue>Just for that I have requested it

    Feb 12, 2002
    Shame on you. You make sense.
  10. Feralpeg

    Feralpeg Living and Loving Windermere!

    Dec 29, 2000
    Put a reasonable maximum price on all prescription drugs. I just paid $400 for a tube of cream smaller than a tube of toothpaste. That was after my insurance. Crazy!
  11. Southernmiss

    Southernmiss <font color=green>I am hazed everyday<br><font col

    Aug 27, 2011
    Amen! Ds was prescribed $1200 worth of meds for acne. Crazy. Asked the dr. for a cheaper script--got it for $13. Nuts.
  12. jlewisinsyr

    jlewisinsyr DIS Veteran

    Mar 29, 2007
    My thoughts:

    1. Everyone should be able to get insurance at a reasonable cost for major medical.
    2. Preentative health care, such as annual physical should be covered 100% on an plan with no co-pay or deductible.
    3. Medical expenses should be paid out of pocket for general office visits (not preventative) for colds/sore throats, etc.
    4. People should have a vested interest in their health care and there should be percent participation for all covered items, up to a maximum cap per year.
    5. If you smoke or you are not on an active cessation program and fail to quit, you should be surcharged.
    6. If you are obese or are not on a program to lose weight and fail to meet goals of weight loss, you should be surcharged.
    7. More quick-care/minute clinic facilities should be opened, these should be used for colds/sore throats.

    There are other things that are a bit more difficult to tackle, like people who use ambulance services for taxi's, people who go to the hospital for colds, etc, but the above I think would at least help a bit.
  13. Janina47

    Janina47 Earning My Ears

    Apr 8, 2013
    Love the idea of more gym classes and portion control! two simple ways to encourage being more healthy and active!!
  14. Cannot_Wait_4Disney

    Cannot_Wait_4Disney Ok all you A cattle, get in ...

    May 18, 2005
    IT LIVES!!! IT LIVES!!!! And now, resurrected a second time after being dead for four months.
  15. cabanafrau

    cabanafrau DIS Veteran

    May 10, 2006
    Anybody else suspect it may be time for some serious investigative reporting into the salaries, bonuses and benefits of execs at the insurance companies? Rates have been skyrocketing, particularly the last five years or so, with no corresponding pay increases to medical professionals that I'm aware of. Considering what we all know about the pigs feeding at the trough in the banking system, would it be so unexpected to find execs at the health insurers living high on the hog, leaving quite a bit of destruction in their wake using rising medical costs as their perfect cover?
  16. indimom

    indimom Are We There Yet?

    Jul 18, 2008
    In general I agree, but I wonder what would be considered routine maintenance and what an emergency?
    Because diabetes treatment or seissure control meds or blood pressure meds do not sound like "emergent" care, but they are expensive conditions to treat month in and month out for a lifetime.
    DD requires monthly injections that are about $500 a shot for the non FDA approved option. If this med ever stops being effective or the doctors/insurance company refuse to allow it, the only other option is the FDA approved version at $2,000 a shot. It's certainly not an emergency life threatening situation, but it's not something she can go without either.
    We've got a good handle on treatment for many medical conditions today that were not available a generation ago, but many are not quick fixes and require lengthy or lifelong treatment.
    I'm just wondering how these would play out in health insurance based on emergency medical care only?? Is there an allowance for situations like that?
  17. LuvinLucifer

    LuvinLucifer Mouseketeer

    Mar 1, 2012
    I think we should look at Germany and Singapore as models to follow. They have the best working systems in the world because manage to avoid the pitfalls of both free-market and single-payer systems. Patients have a large degree of control and responsibility in their own healthcare, but there are price controls and basic minimum requirements that prevent the insured from being exploited and picking up the slack for everyone else. Waiting lists and and going broke due to illness are pretty much unheard of.
  18. Bob NC

    Bob NC DIS Veteran<br><font color="red">I am a trained pr

    Mar 3, 2000

    Some folks aren't going to pay for health insurance no matter how affordable it is.

    I worked at a place once that offered Blue Cross/Blue Shield to hourly employees at a GREAT cost, as I recall it worked out to less than $8 a week. About 10% of my hourly employees purchased it. They were used to using the ER, and that's what they did.

    One time an 8 month pregnant employee asked me for health insurance enrollment forms. I asked if she was expecting to get the birth expenses covered. When she said yes, I told her that was likely a pre-existing condition that may not be covered. As I handed her the forms she said, "Nevermind, Uncle Sam will take care of it."
  19. TLSnell1981

    TLSnell1981 Tiny bubbles... make me happy... make me feel fine

    Sep 15, 2006

    Insurance is not healthcare.

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