gay marriage

[Axel]

Maybe my initial interpretation of your inteligence level was misleasding, as you did not analyze what the point I was trying to make. what i was trying to say is that what read in the newspaper isnt always the exact truth sometimes blown out of proportion to make a better story, and we wont know the exact truth of hte story unless we were there.

About the olympics my question is why cant "gays" compete in the normal olympics?

My point is that people are kicked out of things all the time it doesnt matter if you black or gay or white. These occurences can happen to anybody

About the bible, yes ideas do change but the interiptaion of changes as well usually to be mroe aplicable to modern times just as the interpretation of art work or music does over time.

As for the military, no not all gays are going to have intimate relations with everyone they meet....However after a while if they are dating, it's gonna happen whether you are gay or strait. That's why guys and girls have different sleeping areas. Why should gay people be in a loophole to get around this?



Okay on page 2 post #27

You say "Needless to say, the bible is mildly (or majorly depending on your views) outdated. its like that crazy old uncle who tells you that you'll get hemorrhoids from sitting on cold concrete. there are times when you should listen and times when you shouldn't."

You are implying that the followers of the bible are stuck in the past and those that preach it are idiots who are only trying to get a rise out of people. You are generalizing all christians and throwing them into the same group of ignorant bafoons. It'd be like me saying that all homosexuals are guys with high voices flailing there arms around and know more about girl stuff (perfume, clothes, etc.) than most girls.

I have a disdain for the military in general. Gays should not be exempt, but I don't think that it's against the rules to have a relationship with somebody else in the military if they're in your rank or if they're stationed elsewhere. So why can't gays be allowed the same?


Here's something to ponder (inspired by the TV movie Wedding Wars [starring Sean Maher and John Stamos]): What would you do if every gay in the world went on strike? Could you survive? Would you be surprised at who went on strike?

What if every gay person that lied their way into the military came out? What would happen to our troop numbers in Iraq? Afghanistan?

What if every person in the world that supports equal rights for love just stopped doing everything and sat inside all day? How quiet would it be?

 

[Lizbon]

Here's something to ponder (inspired by the TV movie Wedding Wars [starring Sean Maher and John Stamos]): What would you do if every gay in the world went on strike? Could you survive? Would you be surprised at who went on strike?

What if every gay person that lied their way into the military came out? What would happen to our troop numbers in Iraq? Afghanistan?

What if every person in the world that supports equal rights for love just stopped doing everything and sat inside all day? How quiet would it be?

Wow those are some powerful questions. Bravo!

 

[SpaceMounatin]

I'm wondering - what do you mean by the 'gay' lifestyle?
People live many different lifestyles. There aren't just two liftestyles, that are are separated by sexual orientation.
You don't need to change yourself once you find out your gay. The only thing that changes, is you date people of the same sex. That's all. You don't actually change anything.

MY HERO

=)

You don't understand, how much I try to explain that to people, but sadly, some of my friends don't get it!

-Dainan "My dad as a joke offered my high heels " Rafferty

 

[disney100666]

I completly support it, if you have feelings for the same gender, so be it, love is love.

 

[Babyjustrun]

You don't understand, how much I try to explain that to people, but sadly, some of my friends don't get it!

-Dainan "My dad as a joke offered my high heels " Rafferty

I wouldn't know first hand what it's like.
And I'm really your friends don't get it, hopefully they come around

It literally enrages me to see people, who are too narrowminded to accept gay/lesbians/bisexuals. It enrages me when they say it's gross, wrong or a sin.
Since when has love been a sin?

 

[SpaceMounatin]

^Well, most of my friends (thankfully) get it. But when other's say, "As long as you don't hit on me, I don't care", I will admit, it gets me angry.

 

[Addicted.to.Speed]

if you can't fathom the comparison that I was making, I refuse to argue with you. I refuse to battle wits with someone unarmed.

btw, the anti shrimp quotes are from Leviticus 11:9-12. Which is right after the anti gay passage.

Hey look i took offence to it okay?
and thanks for the verse, book, and chapter...i'll have to look into it
I'm trying to be open minded

Let me just say she never called you or anyone crazy like you implied. She was saying "crazy old uncle" as an example that in know way had to do with the Bible.

Also, implying isn't really proof, because thats what YOU THINK she is saying. Also when did she say you were trying to get a rise out of people? Not anywhere I saw. JMO.

I accept everyones opinions, what I don't accept is you twisting her words. Again, JMO.

She's refering the bible to the crazy old uncle. the word ITS is refering to the bible, it is a pronoun

Yes thats what i was implying and i took it to offence.
Its in the eye of the beholder

I wasnt twisting her words i was saying what i felt. straight up! The internet has a pesky way of not being able not to express tone. Without tone sometimes the true meaning isnt recieved on the other end

 

[SpaceMounatin]

And this is why I hate when people push religious belifes that tend to be pulled out! I seriously am pissed off. And it bothers me the most when people hate other people because of there beliefs, and will actually try to stop them from having freedom. Only because they don't feel it's right, when it has nothing to do with them at all!

Seperation of Churh and State my ***!

-Dainan "End tiny rant" Rafferty

 

[Lizbon]

Hey look i took offence to it okay?
and thanks for the verse, book, and chapter...i'll have to look into it
I'm trying to be open minded



She's refering the bible to the crazy old uncle. the word ITS is refering to the bible, it is a pronoun

Yes thats what i was implying and i took it to offence.
Its in the eye of the beholder

I wasnt twisting her words i was saying what i felt. straight up! The internet has a pesky way of not being able not to express tone. Without tone sometimes the true meaning isnt recieved on the other end

I agree with the bolded part 100% that is why I don't think you can really anything because there is no way you can tell how she is saying it and what she really means. You said it yourself, you were imlying something, so how can you be mad at her when what you are implying isn't what she meant?

 

[pigletgirl]

The lifestyle meaning that you have your partner and make a life out of homosexuality. Just because you have feminine tendancies or masculine tendancies doesn't mean you are forced to live like that.

 

[Damhsa04]

I just found this bulletin on my MySpace and thought I should post it here.

Whether you are homosexual or not, you should repost this in support of your friends and loved ones who are. Love is not defined by color, creed, or gender.

I am the mother who is not allowed to even visit the children I bore, nursed, and raised. The court says I am an unfit mother because I now live with another woman.

I am the boy who never finished high school, because I got called a *** everyday

I am the girl kicked out of her home because I confided in my mother that I am a lesbian.

I am the prostitute working the streets because nobody will hire a transsexual woman.

I am the sister who holds her gay brother tight through the painful, tear-filled nights.

We are the parents who buried our daughter long before her time.

I am the man who died alone in the hospital because they would not let my partner of twenty-seven years into the room.

I am the foster child who wakes up with nightmares of being taken away from the two fathers who are the only loving family I have ever had. I wish they could adopt me.

I am not one of the lucky ones. I killed myself just weeks before graduating high school. It was simply too much to bear.

We are the couple who had the Realtor hang up on us when she found out we wanted to rent a one-bedroom for two men.

I am the person who never knows which bathroom I should use if I want to avoid getting the management called on me.

I am the domestic-violence survivor who found the support system grow suddenly cold and distant when they found out my abusive partner is also a woman.

I am the domestic-violence survivor who has no support system to turn to because I am male.

I am the father who has never hugged his son because I grew up afraid to show affection to other men.

I am the home-economics teacher who always wanted to teach gym until someone told me that only lesbians do that.

I am the woman who died when the EMTs stopped treating me as soon as they realized I was transsexual.

I am the person who feels guilty because I think I could be a much better person if I didn't have to always deal with society hating me.

I am the man who stopped attending church, not because I don't believe, but because they closed their doors to my kind.

I am a warrior for my country serving proud, but can't be my true self because gays aren't allowed in the military.

I am the person who has to hide what this world needs most, love.

I am the person ashamed to tell my own friends I'm a lesbian, because they constantly make fun of them.

I am the boy tied to a fence, beaten to a bloody pulp and left to die because two straight men wanted to "teach me a lesson."


This is the boy, Matthew Shepard. On October 7, 1998 Aaron McKinney and Russell Henderson lead him to a remote area east of Laramie where they demonstrated unimaginable acts of hate. Matthew was tied to a split-rail fence where he was beaten and left to die in the cold of the night. Almost 18 hours later he was found by a cyclist who initially mistook him for a scarecrow. Matthew died on October 12 at 12:53 am at a hospital in Fort Collins, Colorado. KILLED BECAUSE HE WAS GAY!!!

---IF YOU BELIEVE THAT HOMOPHOBIA IS WRONG... REPOST THIS
AS "HOMOPHOBIA."

---IF YOU ARE IGNORANT... IGNORE

 

[VMK_MagicalLadee]

^^^

So sad.

But true.

Its disgusting how ignorant people are. Danian, Shelby and Hil. You guys are MY heroes.

 

[HPGIRL]

I just found this bulletin on my MySpace and thought I should post it here.

Whether you are homosexual or not, you should repost this in support of your friends and loved ones who are. Love is not defined by color, creed, or gender.

I am the mother who is not allowed to even visit the children I bore, nursed, and raised. The court says I am an unfit mother because I now live with another woman.

I am the boy who never finished high school, because I got called a *** everyday

I am the girl kicked out of her home because I confided in my mother that I am a lesbian.

I am the prostitute working the streets because nobody will hire a transsexual woman.

I am the sister who holds her gay brother tight through the painful, tear-filled nights.

We are the parents who buried our daughter long before her time.

I am the man who died alone in the hospital because they would not let my partner of twenty-seven years into the room.

I am the foster child who wakes up with nightmares of being taken away from the two fathers who are the only loving family I have ever had. I wish they could adopt me.

I am not one of the lucky ones. I killed myself just weeks before graduating high school. It was simply too much to bear.

We are the couple who had the Realtor hang up on us when she found out we wanted to rent a one-bedroom for two men.

I am the person who never knows which bathroom I should use if I want to avoid getting the management called on me.

I am the domestic-violence survivor who found the support system grow suddenly cold and distant when they found out my abusive partner is also a woman.

I am the domestic-violence survivor who has no support system to turn to because I am male.

I am the father who has never hugged his son because I grew up afraid to show affection to other men.

I am the home-economics teacher who always wanted to teach gym until someone told me that only lesbians do that.

I am the woman who died when the EMTs stopped treating me as soon as they realized I was transsexual.

I am the person who feels guilty because I think I could be a much better person if I didn't have to always deal with society hating me.

I am the man who stopped attending church, not because I don't believe, but because they closed their doors to my kind.

I am a warrior for my country serving proud, but can't be my true self because gays aren't allowed in the military.

I am the person who has to hide what this world needs most, love.

I am the person ashamed to tell my own friends I'm a lesbian, because they constantly make fun of them.

I am the boy tied to a fence, beaten to a bloody pulp and left to die because two straight men wanted to "teach me a lesson."


This is the boy, Matthew Shepard. On October 7, 1998 Aaron McKinney and Russell Henderson lead him to a remote area east of Laramie where they demonstrated unimaginable acts of hate. Matthew was tied to a split-rail fence where he was beaten and left to die in the cold of the night. Almost 18 hours later he was found by a cyclist who initially mistook him for a scarecrow. Matthew died on October 12 at 12:53 am at a hospital in Fort Collins, Colorado. KILLED BECAUSE HE WAS GAY!!!

---IF YOU BELIEVE THAT HOMOPHOBIA IS WRONG... REPOST THIS
AS "HOMOPHOBIA."

---IF YOU ARE IGNORANT... IGNORE

I've heard of that before,that was so sad and is everytime I read it.I hope one day America will soon learn that we are all one nation and we shan't treat others that way.

 

[Ms.Squeakers]

^^^

So sad.

But true.

Its disgusting how ignorant people are. Danian, Shelby and Hil. You guys are MY heroes.

I totally agree with you

Its so sad how close-minded some people are

 

[Saxsoon]

It is sad that some people believe that is what Christ would have wanted. The man who ate with tax collectors, hung out with prostitutes and such, and they believe He would tolerate things like that.