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FP+ is Live! Magic Bands in the park!

Discussion in 'Theme Parks Attractions and Strategies' started by PrettyFlower2, Apr 24, 2013.

  1. mom2rtk

    mom2rtk Active Member

    I too believe that testing was a precursor to all of this.

    But I don't think they've done a test yet where traditional FP was limited in any way to those participating in the test. It sounds to me like they are making assumptions that might not be indicative of how people will behave in real world execution. If I had the option of parade or fireworks viewing, I might have considered it. But ONLY if my other ride FP options remained unchanged. And while we don't know yet if there will be same-day FP options, I do think it's a safe assumption it will not be at all like the test (where you could continue to pull as many fastpasses for headliners as ever before.)
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  3. darnheather

    darnheather New Member

    @MichiganDVC I can totally see my own children taking their kids to Universal to see Harry Potter, but that might be because I'm a Potter-head and have made them in my own image. ;) Yes we're going to DW first but Universal will be our next big trip once the other half of Potter world is finished.
  4. gwmort

    gwmort New Member

    I believe there are a large number of guests who don't use much fp now because they don't do the big rides, real small kids or older guests, etc... Having a passive activity to spend there premium fp allotments on would likely be very popular in a group that does not get much benefit from the current system. I don't think it is meant to be a ride all of the biggest rides and get these cool other perks too. They are not trying to make life better for the uber planners.
  5. mom2rtk

    mom2rtk Active Member

    No, but there are a LOT of people for whom Disney is about the rides. And they have not yet tested how those folks choose fastpasses when it's either/or. They can claim they tested it all they want. But they didn't.

    They might have tested the system operationally. They might have tested whether some people have an interest in parade/fireworks fastpasses. But they have not tested the level of that interest when it's either/or. Maybe they couldn't find a way to test it operationally. Or maybe they didn't want to see how popular it was when other fastpass privileges were turned off. But they didn't test it.
  6. gwmort

    gwmort New Member

    I agree with your statement. However, just because they haven't tested it yet doesn't mean they haven't researched it. They have all those survey guys in the parks getting data on how people like to tour. They likely have tracked for years how many times a particular ticket pulls a fastpass on a particular day so they know how many most guests use.

    The proposed three a day matches my personal touring style really well, I would certainly volunteer to test the new system at the exclusion of the other on my next trip in June. I would wager there are thousands of others who would too, particularly if it meant getting to fp attractions no one else can (like ETwB).

    I am excited to see how the systems turns out and optimistic it will be a value add to our future vacations.
  7. doconeill

    doconeill <a href="http://www.wdwinfo.com/dis-sponsor/" targ

    That has always been one of my main beefs with the tests. What I choose to use the "bonus" for when I can use the old system as normal will be affected - say, the parade viewing instead of Space Mountain. If I instead have limited choices overall, I may choose very different things. So if they are inferring that the parade is popular based on previous tests, yet they are going to severely limit FP+ choices, their premise is invalid.
  8. BebopBaloo

    BebopBaloo New Member

    I'm sure I missed it somewhere as I've been trying to follow along. I keep reading folks saying that there will only be 3 FP+ and maybe per park, or total... anyways..can someone direct me to the exact source of that information? I keep reading it as if it is official, but I haven't seen the official mentioning of it.
  9. Robo

    Robo Attention: There's a '71 Castle in the Hub with it

    We have some pertinent info regarding the "Personalized Digital Interaction."
    (PDI, "Public Displays of Interaction?") ;)

    Consider the initial reaction on the WDW fan sites when they unveiled the new Spaceship Earth with the screen-grabs of guests' faces paste onto the cartoony finale of the ride.

    It was judged as underwhelming (many HATED it) among many of the Disney fans.

    But, you just don't hear much about it anymore.
  10. MichiganDVC

    MichiganDVC Can barely see my Kool-aid bath with these Rose-co

    You do know, of course, that there are nearly 7 billion people on earth now right? So I do not doubt that Harry Potter series was one of the if not the best selling book series of all time. However, by sheer numbers there are simply more people on earth and especially in the last 20 years, more people who have contact with United States and Western media to be able to have access to their works than ever before. So, I wonder how much of the sales had to do with the delivery of books through the Internet through things like Kindle? And if not Kindle, just social media and the ability to deliver information about things like Harry Potter series across the globe. It's never happened before in all of history!!

    My point is, and I think will find this in the next 25 years, is that with the spread of information across the globe and the quickness by which it travels through social media, our world is about to become a mile wide and an inch deep. I am afraid that the next Harry Potter-like series is just around the corner and another couple hundred million people in the world will buy those too, and then a few months later be on to the next series after that. These don't necessarily have to be good books, just popular... and they will sell hundreds of millions of copies because there are several billion people the world who can access them now.

    So either the Harry Potter series was revolutionary in all of the history of literature or it's going to fade out with time like all the other generational works to do. I'm not saying kids absolutely will not read HP 20 years from now.., I'm saying they probably won't trek to central Florida to see Harry Potter land.
  11. BuckeyeBama

    BuckeyeBama New Member

    Some will love the new system, and some will hate it. Personally, if they limited me to 3 FPs/day and only 1 or 2 of them headliners, I would probably stop going to WDW. This from a man who has averaged 22 days in WDW each year for the last 13 years.
  12. hollygolitely93

    hollygolitely93 New Member

    Never knew the before version and we adore the photos...campy! Just shows change is sometimes harder than new...
  13. BuckeyeBama

    BuckeyeBama New Member

    We shall see. I'm betting on Harry.
  14. hollygolitely93

    hollygolitely93 New Member

    Can't buy Harry Potter through kindle...ebooks just recently made available via pottermore site.,,so all those book sales were paper copies ;)

    I agree with your point in social media...

    But a seven book series over multiple years and eight movies aren't all as successful as they were without it being a revolutionary series. It is as relevant as A new fantasyland based on belle, Ariel and Snow White...for sure ;)

    But your point is understood.
  15. darnheather

    darnheather New Member

    So the only reason you go to Disney is because you can get FPs to certain rides? I thought there was more to the DW experience than that. :confused3
  16. WillAustin

    WillAustin Can I be the mayor of Bitter Town?

    I'm feeling the same way. I wish they'd let us know how it's going to work because 3 is not enough for us.

    I know that when we go, because of FPs, we are able to ride what we want, as many times as we want, without ever waiting more than 15 minutes. Limiting the number of FPs we can get to a number below what we can currently use significantly changes our experience in a negative way.
  17. damo

    damo <font color=red>Proud Redhead<br><marquee behavior

    In the next 20 years, new rides will be coming out. What does it matter if Harry Potter is the not the main draw in 20 years? What 20 year old ride at WDW is the major reason for people coming to WDW?

    Universal regularly rips down old rides to put in new ones. Heck, they ripped out Jaws to put in the new Diagon Alley. If need be, in 20 years they can rip out Diagon Alley.

    I think that is what people would rather have had WDW do. Rip out some of the old areas that are needing improvement or are housing nothing, and put something new in, instead of the Fastpass +.
  18. maddiebee

    maddiebee New Member

    I'm wondering how affective small tests are for something that so drastically affects so many of disneys guests. Does testing it on small groups really demonstrate the impact it will have across a whole park, let alone all 4?
  19. mom2rtk

    mom2rtk Active Member

    I go to Disney for a variety of reasons. I like the parades, shows, characters AND rides. My husband likes the rides. If we wait an hour for Space Mountain, 45 minutes for Splash, an hour for BTMRR, and 45 minutes for Peter Pan, there isn't much time left for parades, characters and shows.

    FP has been an integral part of Disney being a pleasing vacation destination for our family. Messing with that puts it all up for re-evaluation.
  20. BuckeyeBama

    BuckeyeBama New Member

    No, but WDW is not a large enough draw for me without those attractions, and I will not wait on line for an hour to ride anything. Even during the slow season, the headliners all draw long lines.
  21. Squidgyness

    Squidgyness New Member

    Yeah. Attractions are a main reason I go to Florida in general. People might argue that the general theming and other aspects are important too, but its pretty pointless if I'm stuck in an hour long line and can't enjoy these other aspects because I refused to schedule my rides in advance, or couldn't.

    Also, I couldn't help smiling at 'FP Super user' under your username :)

    Not only will it not tell if there will be a problem if one doesn't appear in the small tests, but if a problem does appear in small tests (like the haunted mansion reports of a longer standby line for example) then it will be magnified tenfold once rolled out fully.

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