Father's Consent

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  1. John and Ari's Pop

    John and Ari's Pop Earning My Ears

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    We're on the 2/23 departure of the Magic. My wife and I are taking a "crew" including my daughter and 2 grandkids. My daughter is divorced and has custody. Our TA mentioned getting a note signed by her ex (the kids dad) giving his approval to take the kids out of the country. Bottomline, I don't want to ask this guy for anything if I don't have to (It's a long story).

    I've never seen a question this board can't answer. Any divorced folks ever have problems taking their kids on a cruise ?
     
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  3. All DCL requires is that a parent or legal guardian sign the cruise contract that is included in the child's documents. Since your daughter is going, there isn't a problem. Even if the child's parent was not traveling all your daughter would have to do is sign the cruise contract before sailing.

    Have a great cruise.
     
  4. Dave_from_Marietta

    Dave_from_Marietta DIS Veteran

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    Although gottaluvdisney's answer is correct, you'd also do well to bring a notarized letter of permission from your daughter as well as a copy of the court order giving her custody. Disney probably won't ask for that, but the Immigration inspectors at St Thomas might. My parents took my neice (their granddaughter) to Canada last year and they were almost stopped at the border because they didn't have a permission letter from my neice's mother (their daughter).
     
  5. legs22

    legs22 Look for me on the singles thread on the Community

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    I made sure I had a notarized letter from my X saying I could take our DD4 out of the country. I hated asking him. I just didn't want anything stopping me from getting on that ship! But, nobody ever checked or questioned us. The immigration inspectors in St. Thomas didn't care or ask. I think you would do just fine without the notarized letter. Just take the custody order.
    Have a great cruise. :)
     
  6. Dave_from_Marietta

    Dave_from_Marietta DIS Veteran

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    I wasn't suggesting getting a notarized letter from their grandchildren's father... just their mother since she has custody but isn't going on the trip.
     
  7. legs22

    legs22 Look for me on the singles thread on the Community

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    I thought it read that the mother was going and had custody so they were asking about getting permission from the father who is not going.:confused:
    They really don't want to ask the father and I can certainly understand that.:rolleyes:
     
  8. Dave_from_Marietta

    Dave_from_Marietta DIS Veteran

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    You're right, legs22. I mis-read the question. I thought they were traveling with their grandchildren but missed the fact that they were taking their daughter as well.

    I agree with your prior response.
     
  9. KellyR

    KellyR Earning My Ears

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    I'm a single parent with a young son. We cruised the Magic a few months ago. We have different last names, but no questions were ever asked about custody or permission from the father. Personally, I wouldn't worry about it if I was you.
     
  10. Gina

    Gina Remembers the Great DIS Board Crash of '99

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    I just spoke with the Department of State yesterday over this very issue. I'm divorced, and my ex and I live too far apart for a notarized letter to be really do-able, and more inconvenience than I'm willing to ask him for. I don't have a copy of my divorce decree showing custody, because they don't give a copy to you. (Not for free, anyway -- it's a dollar a page, and 50+ pages.)

    The gentleman with the Dept. of State was very nice and said that just a plain old letter, in absence of the decree itself, would be just fine. I had also called about the birth certificate issue, since my son's is an official certified copy but has no raised seal (just an engraved border.) He said that was fine too, that there are states where the birth certficates don't have raised seals.

    Anyways, if your daughter has a copy of her divorce decree showing she has custody, then that is officially all she needs. If she's like me and doesn't, then you might want to just try to get a note from the dad just to be sure.

    The US/Canada border is *way* stricter on that kind of stuff than any of the many other borders I've crossed. I guess that Canada is where most non-custodial parents tend to bolt to if they're trying to escape with their kids, or something. I was almost denied entry several years ago because I didn't have a note from my ex. Luckily, they were able to reach him by phone to verify that he knew where we were. Otherwise, I'd have been S.O.L.!

    -gina-
     
  11. candleonwater

    candleonwater The Tag Fairy has been around forever

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    I had this same worry for my trip in December. As my daughters father and I are not on speaking terms - what if I had to have a letter... I wasn't using her birth certificate for id - I used her passport and no one said a thing... I wouldn't worry about it.
     
  12. tecdavidt

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    I am divorced with custody of my 2 sons, on our first 3 DCL cruise I never had a letter and never had a problem. My last name is different from my sons and was traveling with my husband and our daughter and his son.

    This year I expect no problems since both my sons from my first marriage are both legal adults now. Kathy
     
  13. IrishCowboy

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    We have a similiar situation with my step-daughter (11). She has a different last name than the rest of our family. When we cruised last May, nobody said a thing.

    We had her birth certificate and that was all that was necessary. Plus, I figured if anyone asked, I had planned on responding that her father was deceased. How are they going to know any different?
     
  14. flyingcircus

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    This is a little off the subject, but when we got our daughters passports in September, they needed BOTH parents authorization. Luckily, both of us were there ( we are married), or my husband would have had to come back and give his authorization. I believe:confused: this change just occured in June or July. So this leads me to believe that if a minor child, who has been issued a passport after June, and has divorced parents, will have the authority to travel with only ONE of the parents, and not need authorization, as it has already been issued. I am not too certain of this, but this was the impression I was given by the passport agency!
     
  15. dbcruise

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    The new western Itinery may be more strict if they go to Mexico.
    I am a single mom who travels out of the country every year with my DD7 the only time we had to get a notarized letter from my ex was for a suntrips cruise that left out of Cancun/ Calica Mexico and it was my understanding it was because of the mexican Goverment . The trip included charter air from San Francisco and they would not let you on the plane with out a letter from the other parent . Their were a few frantic people calling the other parent trying to get letters faxed to them at the airport . Also on the cruisemates message boards last summer there was a post from some grandparents taking grandkids without the parents on a cruise to Alaska out of Vancouver can't remember which cruise line Royal Caribbean, NCL or HAL but after pulling several people out of line telling them they would not be allowed to board the people got pretty upset and the cruise company finally let them all get on . The 3,4,& 7day Eastern may not be a problem but If was booked on the western I would double check .
     
  16. my3kids

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    The new passport rule is correct. When we got the passports issued for our children this fall, both parents had to be there to sign the applications in person. They wouldn't allow my husband to sign ahead of time...he had to leave work to meet me there. I'm not sure what they do in the case of parents who don't live in the same city. I think if a parent is deceased, it required a copy of the death certificate(but not sure on that...I didn't pay much attention because it thankfully didn't apply.)
     
  17. Sheree

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    For our son's RENEWAL passport, they also required both signatures. My husband did a letter giving permission and they accepted that since he couldn't be there.

    My husband is divorced and way back when we were going to take his kids on a cruise. Because of the permission issue we decided not to. His ex would not give us a letter if we asked out of spite. She wouldn't have wanted us taking them somewhere nice!

    Mexico is much tougher than almost anywehre else. If the cruise goes out of Mexico I would defnitely have the ltter or the custody agreement.
     
  18. legs22

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    On the eastern cruise, after 9/11, you had to start going through immigration in St Thomas (U.S.) because the ship was coming from a foreign port (St Maarten). Before 9/11, once you boarded the ship, you did not have to go through any immigration.
    Now, what will happen on the western? We first go to a U.S. port then two foreign ports then back to the U.S. Will we have to go through immigration on the western? Maybe when we get back to the U.S.?
    Anyone? Dave?
     
  19. Tay N Evie's Mom

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    I went to Cancun with my mother when I was 17. My father was hospitalized at the last moment and couldn't go, but told my mom and I to go anyway. Even though my parents were married, our TA told us that we still had to have a notorized letter from my father giving permission to take me out of the country due to Mexico's strict laws. So, if anyone's taking a minor on the Western Cruise without both parents, whether married or divorced, you may want to get a letter to avoid any problems when you try to board.
     
  20. Dave_from_Marietta

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    I've heard that about flying to Mexico. It will be interesting to know if this will be required on cruises stopping in Mexico or if they are more relaxed than with air travel.

    I would speculate that U.S. Immigration will require an inspection upon return to Port Canaveral.
     
  21. legs22

    legs22 Look for me on the singles thread on the Community

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    Ahhh...no early morning immigration in the middle of the cruise like on the eastern.:)
    What happens when we dock in Mexico- are they going to demand to see our papers?
     

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