Discussion in 'Disney Resorts' started by mickeyway, Feb 15, 2013.
Disney wouldn't let you sleep on the ground. Doesn't look good for their image.
Log in or Sign up to hide this advert.
Sure they would....in the campground. Not for free mind you.
I would be disappointed but I have to say, I may be one of the reasons someone else maybe downgraded, so I thought I would share to let others know why a downgrade may happen. This was back in the days that Disney did not accommodate blind and before a device called trekker came out.
I am legally blind, my dd has cerebral palsy, my other dd has something between the lines of aspergers and BiPolor, and grand d was a preemie baby. When DD's were teens and grand was baby under two this happened several times.
Once in wdw we were at POR, it started pouring out and we headed back. Once I stepped on the bus and had the carriage the teens got back on bus and took off. Here I was with a preemie who was maybe a year old so looked a lot smaller, and myself with carriage and bags and cane. Trying to find my way back to the mansions. I made it over to the mansion, but could not find a way up with carriage and cane up stairs to find the elevator. Finally after what seemed like hours and a lot of swearing, a guest helped me back to the main office, they changed my room to what I now know is a preferred room,the closet of all the rooms to the food court and bus in building 14. It never dawned on me then that I may have taken a room away from someone else and they never told me or charged me any extra.
Yes you can blame my kids, but they were like 15 and 17 a little immature and thought why not go back to the park.
On two occassions I was upgraded at DL, both times I think it was due to my visual impairment. The first time was when they had to close one building, the main one had electrical problems so they were trying to get everyone to other rooms and we were not checked in but I got a call, they could not give my request to have two different rooms in two different buildings, we were traveling with ex husband and sometimes we need not to be right on top of each other. Since one room was for the blind with a request in dream, and the other was a request for an acess able room, my ex is a vet with a cane. The only way they could accommodate us was to put us in concierge, would that be okay. I told them yes but not sure we could afford both rooms at a higher price and we were due in in 2 hours, he told us it would be free to us, or he could place us in two standard rooms at the grand but they would be connecting. We took the rooms at the grand this time, I doubt we kicked anyone out they were standard rooms but and it was not a busy time.
Another time was at DL when trekker first came out. When they knew I would be using one and asked them if someone would give me a tour to get it set up, they were excited and worked with me very well. They upgraded me, but I also gave them the knowledge of the new system and how it worked. A trekker is a GPS system that blind people can use. Once set in, it will tell me to walk, 10 ft to elevator, twenty ft to door, three ft to pool gate, I just tell it were I want to go. So I got upgraded and Disney got a CM with knowledge of trekker so they hopefully will be able to help the next guest who is blind. Again I doubt I kicked anyone out this time, they had knowledge before hand I was coming.
I don't feel this applies here. If you pay "extra" for something, you should get what you pay for. If you are ok with accepting something less than what you paid for, more power to you. I can't imagine that most people would just "let it go" because "life isn't fair", in this particular instance. I mean, I know you said you'd work with CMs to reach a resolution, but we have at least one poster here for whom that didn't work, and she was still billed for the upgraded room anyway.
Here's the thing. Disney does inform you (and by "you," I mean the general "you," not one person in particular) that they retain the right to place you in a room other than what you've booked. All you're really reserving is a room on property. I'm guessing there are some guidelines...those who have booked a handicap accessible room are probably entitled to those (I don't know that for sure, but it makes sense). In addition, if you have 6 people in your party, they will give you something that has enough sleeping surfaces for 6 people. Beyond that...you know there's a chance you won't get what you paid for. Most of the time, you will get exactly the room category you booked. However, if you're not willing to take the risk, it may be best to stay off-property instead.
I would, however, be ticked off if I wasn't immediately refunded the difference if I was downgraded. Not refunding the money or making a big deal out of it is poor customer service.
While we were at AS Music this January we had to change rooms mid trip. We came home and the room reeked of smoke! UGH
It was coming through the vent.
They immediately moved us. I would think more than just our room was 'smokey' due to one or more smokers in another room I don't know how long that sort of thing takes to clean / desmoke but it could knock out a group of rooms for a few days.
I was upgraded to a Royal guest room at POR last year from prefered. Was not that happy with the room. Was far from everything. Think I was closer to POFQ. Should have complained, asked for a closer room. Perfered was the only thing left when I booked. My brother was downgraded same time to standard from prefered. He complained and got moved closer.
To be fair, the poster you quoted mentioned nothing about their trip being ruined if this were to happen.
And what might be minor to you, would not be to other people. Not everyone at Disney just spends a few "waking hours" in their rooms.
And regardless, if I paid for a theme park view or savannah view and did not receive it, I would expect a full refund of the difference. I wouldn't be feeling the magic either if the kickoff to my vacation was finding out I had to fight for a refund of money that is still rightfully mine because of a service not provided.
This happened to me December a year ago. They readily offered to refund the difference. It was not a big deal--really. Like is too short to get THAT upset over a room location.
They also offered to take us and our bags to the room via nifty golf cart right then and there.
Other guests were pitching fits. I hope our shrug and smiles made life easier for the CMs.
Personal note: I just found out a friend is facing cancer and one, full year of treatments. Kinda puts "I didn't get the room I wanted" in perspective....
I've been upgraded a couple times, never downgraded. I've only read about it happening with preferred-location room reservations at the values and one report of the same from CBR. At the deluxe resorts Disney seems all too happy to overbook the lower-priced standard views and bump people up as needed rather than having guests choose a lower-tier resort or stay offsite because the premium for a higher-priced room type scared them off of their first choice.
I can see where someone would be very upset about a downgrade if the room type they booked was vital to the trip they envisioned, ie bumped down from savannah to standard view at AKL/V, or down from theme park view to garden or lake at one of the MK area resorts, or even from preferred to standard at a value or mod when traveling with someone with mobility issues. I know I would be very upset if we are downgraded from the business class room we have reserved at CSR for our next trip, partly because my girls picked it and are very excited and partly because we're not on any dining plan and are planning on pastries & coffee/milk in the lounge for breakfasts. But I would think that Disney should be able to resolve these issues to the guest's satisfaction in the vast majority of cases.
First off, I'm very sorry for your friend. I hope they kick cancer's butt!!!
I do have to say though when you have booked a certain room type, they should give you at least that room type, or better if they run out. Even if that means upgrading you to a different resort. Maybe if that was the way things were handled, they would be a bit more careful of over-booking. There should be no downgrading and Disney expecting you to accept it with a smile. That smacks too much of Take It or Leave It, We Don't Care.
I feel the same way. I think people wanting to spend time on their balcony watching the fireworks or the animals at AKL would be quite upset at having their views changed. As as someone who has traveled with a parent with mobility issues, a location change that could be a nuisance for some can be a real problem for others. Disney should be able to find a way to make things right, though...
The only downgrades I can recall reading about here were moving people from Preferred rooms to standard at the values, though.
We got downgraded at POR this past March. Had booked and paid for a Riverview and did not receive it. Was refunded the difference, only it did NOT make my husband's trip. Just finished a 28 hour drive to get there and not only did we not get what we paid for we also got 2nd floor at Alligator Bayou. No elevator and room was halfway down the building with four under 8 and one of them one year old the trip did not start off well. I didn't pull a hissy when checking in, also did not get offered anyone to bring our luggage up. Weird.
Hopefully this upcoming trip will be better.
Haha! One night my husband got locked out and slept in a hammock at CSR! I had told him not to wake me up after they got back from a 3 AM EMH bc I was getting really sick. He let the kids into their room, and since I had locked the door between the rooms, didn't want to wake me up, so he slept outside. I felt so bad. I told him he could have woken me up for that reason! He said it was a wonderful night.
I am sorry for your friend, and hope they are well soon.
That being said, most people are mature enough to not flip out about this kind of issue. That doesn't mean we have to let it slide though. For me it isn't JUST about getting what I paid for, though that is important. I have mobility issues that can flare up at Disney because of the trauma we put our feet and bodies through by pushing hard for 7-12 days.
I injured my feet roughly 7 years ago. I damaged them pretty badly. It nearly disabled me according to my doctor. I have had to go through therapy, shots, daily exercise, painkillers, etc...repeatedly during that timeframe. I just found out both my hips need to be replaced within the next two years. For me, it would be a big deal to have to walk really far to get to my room or the food court and pool. At any time I could have to use a wheelchair if it becomes too much. I am 35. I am young and WISH I could walk pain free, but that isn't my reality.
While I wouldn't pitch a fit if my room were changed, I would make sure it was resolved. Disney has always been wonderful to us in this regard though. I document my mobility issues way in advance of my trip and write to them before we head there. This is all after our first trip where I had no idea how huge POR is, and we were REALLY far from everything. I couldn't attempt the walk without stopping at the hot tub and massaging my feet. Then there were times I thought I wouldn't make it back to my room. The pain was incredible. By the next trip I had a great plan in place to take care of myself better, and POR upgraded us to a preferred room on that trip, so I was really grateful. This time I didn't mess around and paid for a River view room. My mobility issues are noted on my reservation, and I have improved my plan even more and adjusted it to include care of my hips and back as well.
I don't believe in treating anyone rudely unless I am treated badly, but really, to some people room locations are more than just a room. It is a medical need. Even if there is no medical need, and someone paid for something, there should not be the ability to overbook. Really, why would the system allow this anyway? It makes no sense to me. They shouldn't book a room they don't have.
Wow, your stories all put things into perspective! At least we had a room when we got there and our health.
This is how I feel about it. If I don't get exactly what I booked, I'll deal. But if I had to "catch" the CM trying to slip a downgrade past me, I'd be upset. More so if the CM proceeded to argue with me about how initiating a refund of the difference wasn't worth it.
I don't have to get exactly what I asked for, but I'd better not have to pay extra for something I'm not getting.
Having worked in a pretty major, upscale hotel chain, if I was downgraded (even at an AS), I would tell them very nicely that their first priority to be upgrading me, even if it means moving me to a moderate hotel. The lack of "preferred" rooms, a room that I'd already paid for, was not my problem but theirs. If they didn't think it was possible, I'd very nicely ask for a manager. Of course, I'd have had my DH call the 407 number by then to confirm that there were rooms available at a mod for my trip.
Love this. It is not the vacationers problem, it is Disneys. Well said
Separate names with a comma.