Does anyone have an update on the new Guest Assistance Pass procedures?

Discussion in 'disABILITIES!' started by NC Disney Fan, Jun 5, 2014.

  1. NC Disney Fan

    NC Disney Fan Live long Disney Lover and visitor

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2013
    Messages:
    295
    I broke my back 3 years ago and have had to use the Guest Assistance Pass on our trips to Disney ever since as standing in line for too long creates much stress and pain on my now less than perfect spine/back. With the new Guest Assistance Pass program, I know things have been changed quite a bit. I didn't hear good things at the beginning about it. If you have been there lately and used one my questions to you are:

    Have they perfected the system yet and can you tell me your experience and wait times. I haven't quite been able to understand it thus far. Thanks
     
  2. Avatar

    Google AdSense Guest Advertisement


    to hide this advert.
  3. Mrsjvb

    Mrsjvb DIS Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2007
    Messages:
    2,431
    if you haven't read the sticky, do so.

    the biggest change is it is no longer automatic immediate access to the FP entrance. you now get a return time equal to the length of the standby line less ten minutes. so if the SB wait is 90 minutes you are given a return time 80 minutes into the future, where by you will then be allowed into the FP entrance.

    if your needs are strictly mobility related, you will not qualify for a DAS and will be advised to rent a wheelchair for ECV.
     
  4. SueM in MN

    SueM in MN combining the teacups with a roller coaster Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 1999
    Messages:
    30,159
    The information in the WDW and DL DAS stickies are up to date. I edit the content as anything changes.

    As the other poster mentioned, not all people who got GACs will be getting DAS. It is only for an alternate place to wait, not any of the multiple other (sometimes contradictory) stamps that were on GACs.

    The wait time depends entirely on what the wait in the regular (standby) line is at the time you come.
     
  5. TheRustyScupper

    TheRustyScupper Good Sailing Master. Average Banjo Picker.

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2000
    Messages:
    20,486
    1) In your case, you might not get the DAS pass.
    2) It appears the issue is STANDING in lines.
    3) You might be able to handle lines via an ECV or wheelchair when sitting and not standing.
    4) Typically, MOBILITY issues are not a DAS condition.
    5) But, you can always ask at Guest Services in the park(s).
     
  6. NC Disney Fan

    NC Disney Fan Live long Disney Lover and visitor

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2013
    Messages:
    295
    Thanks all for your info. I would not do well in a wheelchair as part of the balancing act of the repercussions of a broken back is keeping a strong core. Additionally, the converse is also true--sitting for long periods of time do not bode well with my back either. Like I said, a balancing act! I am just grateful that I can walk after such a traumatic fall.

    I will yet again bring my medical documentation, which they have never looked at, and try to see if they will issue one. I am not one to abuse it but since the break, this is about the only way I can make it at Disney.

    Thank you for the clarification on the system.
     
  7. WantToGoNow

    WantToGoNow DIS Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2005
    Messages:
    3,286
    They will never look at whatever document you have because 1) they aren't allowed to and 2) it makes no difference in getting a DAS.

    You have to be able to explain why you can't use the standby line. You will wait the same amount of time regardless just not in the line.

    It sounds like they will recommend a wheelchair or ECV.
     
  8. Mrsjvb

    Mrsjvb DIS Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2007
    Messages:
    2,431
    no one says you have to use the WC/ECV at all times.

    they are not allowed to look at your medical records or any note from the doctor. you need to be able to tell then you NEEDS, not your disability.

    lines will move constantly, if slowly.
     
  9. SueM in MN

    SueM in MN combining the teacups with a roller coaster Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 1999
    Messages:
    30,159
    You might also want to look into a rollator. It's sort of like a walker with wheels, making it easy to push and provide support. It also has a fold down seat so when you need to sit, you have a place.
     
  10. Coonhound

    Coonhound DIS Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2012
    Messages:
    611
    In the past, the GAC let people go straight to the fastpass line which meant they were kind of cutting in line ahead of all the people in the standby line. Disney never meant for the GAC to work as a fastpass, so, they have changed it now to close that loophole of the card working as a fastpass.
    Now, guests with disbailities experience the parks in a way that is equal to non-disabled guests.
    If the issue is about mobility, Disney will not issue a DAS but will instead recommend using a wheelchair or scooter. With a wheelchair or scooter, you have the option of sitting down when you need a seat, and the option of getting out and walking when you don't need the seat.
    If the need is not mobility related but is instead is related to other difficulties, a DAS may be issues, but CMs are instructed NOT to consider medical paperwork in their decision process- they are not allowed to look at it.
    If a DAS is issued, you will approach the ride, and they will give you a return time for when you can ride. If the standby line is 60 minutes, they will give you a return time of 50 minutes- This way, you are waiting in line like everyone else, but, you don't actually stand in the line itself. Once it's your time, you may enter the fastpass line.
    You may only have one return time scheduled at a time, because of the idea that you could not wait in two different lines at the same time. So you wait in one virtual line at a time, and when you ride it they cross that one off and then you may go to a different rude and get a return time for the new ride.
     
  11. OurBigTrip

    OurBigTrip DIS Veteran

    Joined:
    May 27, 2013
    Messages:
    1,729

    I would only add that while you are waiting for your return time, you can ride other rides without the DAS.
     
  12. PatMcDuck

    PatMcDuck DIS Veteran

    Joined:
    May 12, 2000
    Messages:
    6,229
    And FastPass + is your friend! Schedule 3 close together in the morning, and then get more when they are used/expired.
     
  13. JeJecm

    JeJecm Mouseketeer

    Joined:
    May 29, 2014
    Messages:
    85
    Would type 1 Diabetes be a valid reason for DAC? I have problems with blood sugar dropping and can't stand in heat.
     
  14. TheRustyScupper

    TheRustyScupper Good Sailing Master. Average Banjo Picker.

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2000
    Messages:
    20,486

    1) Probably not.
    2) But, you can ask at Guest Relations.
    3) Lots of folks can't stand in the heat, and they usually can't get a DAS.
    . . . old folks
    . . . some young kids
    . . . pregnant ladies
     
  15. SueM in MN

    SueM in MN combining the teacups with a roller coaster Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 1999
    Messages:
    30,159
    I'm going to refer you to the discussion about diabetes on this thread:
    http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3263107

    DAS (Disability Access Service) Cards are used for disabilities and the condition that causes the disability is not pertinent. Diabetes is not a disability; it is a condition that can cause disability.
    The majority of people with diabetes posting on this board quickly test and treat if needed in lines and there are CMs with type 1 diabetes working in the heat.
    Others do have more issues, so just asking for a DAS because you have diabetes doesn't tell the CMs what level of disability you have. Your task is to explain your needs related to your disability.
     

Share This Page