Distroyed Plants at Boardwalk! WOW I am shocked at some of these responses!!!

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  1. 10gigi

    10gigi Earning My Ears

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    Just returned home from Boardwalk. My family had a wonderful time like always but, I was very upset with two families that rented from someone on this board. They were on the 2nd floor and two of the children ages 8-11 distroyed the planters and plants in the hallway. I caught them ripping apart the plants. I spoke with them firmly and spoke with the manager as well. I asked that they speak to the parents again and do something about the distruction of property. They assured me they would take care of the problem. I am still very upset because everytime someone rents to trash like this family, the Boardwalk or other DVC resorts will be distroyed. This also makes our maintance fees go up. I really think we are renting our resorts out way to cheap. These two famlies didn't even care about their sons distroying our property. These families rented from someone on this board. Please lets consider raising our rental prices. :Pinkbounc
    Still very upset!!!!

    I asked the front desk and it was an owner who made reservations but the name was different from the owner! So it was either a family member or a renter!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  3. spiceycat

    spiceycat <font color=blue>Own at BWV, VWL and BLT<br><font

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    most people who rent - don't do this....

    and besides uping the rent won't stop it - just look at your TV set who does the most damage - rich - spoiled people.... any class can have spoiled people - but I am sorry - uping the rent won't stop them....
     
  4. tjkraz

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    Just out of curiosity:

    How do you know that the family was staying on rented points?

    Why do you think this has any relevance to point rental cost? Do you really think that another $1 or 2 per point would have discouraged this family from renting points?
     
  5. PamOKW

    PamOKW <font color=green>The two most important items for

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    Not sure how you knew they rented from someone on this board or how much they paid ---

    Incidents like this are not just done by renters from the DVC board. It could be people staying as Disney guests, people staying as guests of owners or, unbelievably, DVC owners themselves. Ideally, it would be nice to be able to put a stop to all of the bad things people do at resorts. Realistically, Disney is aware of what happens. I'm sure they do try to control it and it is good to bring it to their attention. However, I'm sure the manager sees it as a cost of doing business.
     
  6. meddam

    meddam Earning My Ears

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    Sounds like one of the families from my apartment complex. I had to put a sign up that said "Don't massacre the hydrangea" after their children nearly destroyed it. I'm a renter & if I had kids, I'd never let them do this. Sounds like people that were just happy their children weren't bothering them & focusing their destructive attention on something else...:rolleyes:
     
  7. gopherit

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    I don't think a " lack of good home-trainin' " is a feature found only in renters. Nor do I believe making someone pay more will suddenly instill a conscience in them. In fact, it may well do the opposite -- it may provide the ill-mannered with the excuse that "I paid x amount for this, so by golly, I can do as I please..."

    THe real answer to this, sadly, won't be found in any rental price increase or upping of dues. It's a societal problem, and it's fed by media shows wherein people behave badly and other people watch them do it for entertainment. Kids are the little sponges that pick up that behavior faster than anyone. The neglect of the parents to correct bad or destructive behavior is again not a flaw exclusive to renters, and becoming a DVC member won't make the lazy parent suddenly motivated.

    Just as a rose by any other name is still a rose, so too a skunk, be it a renting skunk or member skunk -- is a real stinker. Glad you at least reported those skunks to the BWV mgmt.
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  8. MelissathePooh

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    wow it is a shame that people you look down on were able to stay in such a fancy time share
     
  9. CarolMN

    CarolMN DVC Co-Moderator Moderator

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    Sorry to hear about this incident. Too bad the parents were not properly supervising these children. (Sometimes, even the best kids make mistakes, so I'm unwilling to say that the parents are bad based on just one report).

    I hope the manager took care of the problem by charging the parents whatever it cost to repair the damage.

    I do not consider these type of incidents the "cost of doing business". They should be considered the "cost of not supervising your children" and the parents should be held accountable for the results - not Disney/DVC and not BWV owners!
     
  10. Patty3

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    It is sad hearing about this damage. I also believe it is the responsibility of the parents to watch their children and teach them to respect others property. I wonder how much damage they do in their own neighborhood, I am just glad they do not live next to me!
     
  11. DebbieB

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    The problem is unless a cast member witnessed it, they probably will not pursue it. The family will probably deny it if confronted. Since it was in a common area, it would be hard to prove who destroyed it. I doubt the manager even followed up.

    I don't follow what the cost of renting has to do with it. Only poorer people have children who misbehave?
     
  12. Lesley

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    there are trashy people at all income levels....those who rent out points (including Disney) really can't know enough about their customers to prevent this sort of thing.

    Also I'm not willing to villify these folks....unless the parents were watching and encouraging or ignoring the behavior.
     
  13. KNWVIKING

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    ***"Please lets consider raising our rental prices."***

    Look at the OP's post count. How would he/she know where the points were rented & how much they paid ?

    This thread has nothing to do with "dEstruction" of property ,( I doubt the dEstruction ever took place).
     
  14. Terry S

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    KNWVIKING.... I agree with you completely, this is just another one of those lets raise our rental price threads. It sounds mysteriously like someone else I know??? Anyone, Anyone, Bueller?

    It is just totally absured to imply that if rental prices were raised that a more well mannered better class of people would be renting points. Hello????
     
  15. OneMoreTry

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    What would the OP's post count have to do with anything? Are people idiots if they haven't posted on the DIS before?

    I am curious, however, to know how the OP knew this family was renting points from a DISer.


    I could see my boys doing this during one of their testosterone-surge moments. If they did, I would march them to the manager and make them pay for the damage.
     
  16. KNWVIKING

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    It's the history of this type of thread. A relatively unknown poster with a very low post count will come on our board looking for our support to raise renting prices. Chances are, this poster is just an alias for a poster we are all very well aware of. We've seen this too many times.
     
  17. Terry S

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    A post count starts a zero when a person signs on as a new user, this does not necessarily mean that it is a person who has never been on the DIS before, just a user ID that has not been on the DIS before, possibly a person who may not want others to know who that person is! So I do not beleive KNWVIKING was implying that this person was an idiot because they had not posted on the DIS before!
     
  18. Zimbubba

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    Cast members will not address issues like this directly. We brough a cast member over to witness a group of people smoking in an non smoking area and they directly told us they would not address the issue. I bet the same thing happens here.
     
  19. PamOKW

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    Hitting "search" on a thread brings up that person's previous posts. This person splits their time between the DVC and DVC Rent/Trade Board.

    Not sure either how they knew who this family was and how much they paid.....

    Price paid has little to do with class of folks. I've found chances of an older person being offered a seat on a crowded WDW bus to be almost guaranteed on the CBR bus and almost nil on the DVC/Deluxe Resort buses. That would seem to suggest folks paying less are better mannered. Of course, a lot of wealthy folks don't want to spend the money on a luxury resort and other folks go into hock to do so when they can't even pay their bills at home. Wide generlizations are pretty much impossible to make.

    I agree that Disney should be charging folks for damage whenever they can. However, we've seen they are not quick to tell the guest they are "wrong". Some folks could actually turn this situation around on Disney and claim their children were endangered by the planters. ;)
     
  20. Pa@okw95

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    I am affraid this is the way things are these days. It is not just at BW or WDW but everywhere. There are too many sick kids out there. As for the matter of renting, I believe you are not getting the price you should for the rental of points at the going rate. They should be somewhere near the rate of the room minus any discounts they can get, and may be just a little less. 10 to 12 dollars a point is a joke. If there were some system to rent points that was full proof no one would bother being a member, why own when you can rent at give away prices.
     
  21. BostonDisneyKid

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    I say we imprison the parents and cane the children.

    Seriously - if you want to curb this type of issue - make the renter responsible for the damages. Maybe they will think twice before renting their home (and ours) to someone they don't know and/or trust. I know I wouldn't offer my everyday home to someone I met online without being able to do a thorough background check and knowing who and what they were all about. So I don't think I would rent my "home away from home" in that manner either as I treat it with as much respect I do my regular home. If the renter were held liable they can go after the "rentee" (not even a word but it sounds good) for the damages after the fact and they can incur the costs of doing so.

    As for renting/price - why beat a dead horse... do what you like with your points but please don't tell me what to do with mine.
     
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