Disney Magic--Not very magical....

To be honest,

I really feel like we were not even on the same boat.....I really didn't see anyone sick, and my husband, who does get motion sickness was fine.....Really!

THe seas were rough only because all the other days were soooo calm. As far as that, Disney really can't do anything anyway....


The food we found to be great!! I didn't have to plan it, cook it or clean up after...isn't that what is really important!!!LOL

I feel bad the OP had such a bad experience.....for us it was the vacation of a lifetime...it wasn't perfect, the eggs were yucky...but overall, it was relaxing, and enjoyable.....and it was sunny everyday!!!!


I just hope new cruisers know that there are no perfect cruises, but time with family,and a great service are so valuable! DCL does this right....

Sandi
 
Deemarch said:
Hello! We are a crazy group, to some out there. People don't understand why Disney pulls us, but it does. So much that we find it difficult to vacation elsewhere. I think that may be the main reason for the new Adventures by Disney!

Anyway, I know, from listening to everyone here and finding out exactly what the OP's issues were, that we are going to have a wonderful time on our first Disney cruise in 48 days!! It sounds like it's exactly what I am expecting!! And I might even get to hug the mouse, which is something I rarely get to do in WDW...The little ones get to him so much more quickly than I do!!! LOL

Hey Denise: You GO GIRL, HUG that MOUSE and I will be right behind you with an AUTOGRAPH BOOK...yup, I might be 52 y.o. but I love those CHARACTERS every one of them. This past Feb when we cruised I hesistated with the autograph book(thought EVERYONE would STARE at me)....but damn when I go back in Feb 2007 on the MAGIC, my book will be right there with every other little kid...my DH just laughs at all this...my childhood re-visited!! LOL!!!!

Karen

::MickeyMo ::MinnieMo pooh: :eeyore: :simba: :goofy: :sulley: :smickey: :tink: :donald: :mickeyjum :ccat:
 
Dreamer04 said:
Oh that situation with the four year old, standing in her own urine? I would have a hard time not flipping out if I saw that! There has to be a better way handeling that scenario! How about paper towels and rubber gloves? Or escorting her to the bathroom to wait for her parents? Putting up cones around the child? Come on! I hope to high heaven that the parents said something, or maybe the people who witnessed it could send a note to DCL. They have to be told this is going on. This really bothered me.

I just have to chime in here with our recent experience on the Eastern Magic. On our first day at sea (and his first day in the club), my DS (5) had a pee accident. We were paged (the message was "Max __ had a potty accident. Please bring a change of clothes to the Oceaneers Club."), but I didn't hear the pager at first so it was about 15 mins between the page and the time I got to the club. When I got there, DS was in a new pair of shorts and no shoes playing happily. His shoes and shorts and undies were in a plastic bag with his name on it. No one seemed fazed. The CM told me he needed shoes to stay (apparently he peed on his shoes too-lovely) so we went back to the room, got new shoes, and he ended up going back as he was having a blast (the reason he didn't get to the bathroom in the first place). Anyway, no one made a big deal of this accident and I asked both of my kids (DD almost 7 was there too) about what happened and it was all very matter of fact--no separating my kid with cones and leaving him in wet clothes!!
 
It is so interesting to me how we all perceive things differently. We went on the February 25, 2005 cruise. One of the main thing that my husband remembers is how bad the weather was, and how it really made the cruise unpleasant, what is funny is that I barely remember, that I just remember how great it was that we were together, not working, and everyone from from our room attendant to the servers were taking care of us. My 2 girls 7 and 9 at the time, really did not spend much time at the clubs, they wanted to hang around with me, now I was thrilled about that, I know that in a few years, they might walk by me and ignore me. we truly had a wonderful time but I can really see how it could be completely turned around and made as an awful experience. We also choose to stay in a CAT 9, as I cannot justify the price of a balcony, and we cannot wait to go back in 2007. I have to admit that we have only cruised on DCL, so I really cannot compare to other cruise line, and we are working on our 4th cruise.
To the OP I am sorry that you did not enjoy the cruise, it is always so disappointed to look forward to something and it does not turn out the way that you anticipate.
 


kellimomo3 said:
I noticed you missed your last night's dinner and Saturday's breakfast...When did you tip your serving team???

Kelli'
:groom: princess: pirate: pirate: pirate:

Please do not worry about such a thing. As a formal waitress through my college days, I fully understand how important tipping is. We tipped every staff member we were supposed to MORE then the DCL guidelines state. It was certainly not the wait staff's fault regarding the food. They were always very kind to us and our son. If you must know, after we packed and went for our walk, my son hand delivered the coupon to the servers after the dinner rush was through.
 
LisaSp said:
I just have to chime in here with our recent experience on the Eastern Magic. On our first day at sea (and his first day in the club), my DS (5) had a pee accident. We were paged (the message was "Max __ had a potty accident. Please bring a change of clothes to the Oceaneers Club."), but I didn't hear the pager at first so it was about 15 mins between the page and the time I got to the club. When I got there, DS was in a new pair of shorts and no shoes playing happily. His shoes and shorts and undies were in a plastic bag with his name on it. No one seemed fazed. The CM told me he needed shoes to stay (apparently he peed on his shoes too-lovely) so we went back to the room, got new shoes, and he ended up going back as he was having a blast (the reason he didn't get to the bathroom in the first place). Anyway, no one made a big deal of this accident and I asked both of my kids (DD almost 7 was there too) about what happened and it was all very matter of fact--no separating my kid with cones and leaving him in wet clothes!!

The description of the little girl standing there screaming and surrounded by cones is horrifying. But, your post made me think that it's also entirely possible that she wouldn't let the CMs help her and just flipped out and wouldn't be touched so they just quardened her off to keep everyone from making it worse and from getting in the pee pee.
 
It's really unfortunate that the OP had a "not magical" time. I guess it all comes down to expectations. Sounds like the OP had really high expectations, particularly for the $ she spent. I think some people just don't realize that those who pay for a Category 1 get the same food, same kids club, same shows, same weather, and same general services as everyone else. My point is that your extra $ is paying for more room in your suite, the concierge service, and some other perks suites qualify for. But everything else is the same. I had really high expectations on my last two cruises. First one lived up to and beyond, and the second didn't - NOT b/c of DCL, but we had kids get sick, excursions missed, and not great weather. My lesson learned - adjust the expecations. So based on my last two experiences, here's my opinion:

What should you expect on DCL?

Dining room food - it's "industrial" food - particuarly the buffets. As one poster said, no eggs on any buffet anywhere. NO KIDDING! They are not real eggs - how you can you expect DCL to cook fresh eggs each morning for @2000 people? Or prime rib? Do I really think my prime rib will be made to order? HAH! The only place on board your food is made to order is Palo. Take advantage of it - particularly if you are, in the words of the OP, "a food snob."

Kids Club - with no other cruise line to compare it to, I found it amazing. Is there a structured activity for the 15+ hours a day it is open? Of course not. How could you expect that? Kids need time each day without a structured activity - (recess, anyone?) and I expect those who supervise kids club CM's and those who develop the programming have had some child education background, since they seem to work for the majority of folks on this board, and others I've spoke to about the clubs. It definitely worked for DS 2 years in a row, and for DD this past Feb. They are doing something - probably most everything - right. If not, they would have changed it by now.

Weather - I've come to expect NOTHING! I've had some great weather and some bad weather in the past. So now, I just have a plan B. I expect to have bad weather at some point and know there's nothing I can do. So I have dramamine, sea bands and whatever else I might need. And if we miss the beach at St. Maarten (WE DID), oh well. Plan B: enjoy time on the ship instead.

Other things out of your control (aside from weather already mentioned): your original intinerary changes because someone got seriously injured or sick, there's a hurricane in your path, or whatever. Maybe you shouldn't expect that this would happen because it does seem rare, but what can you do? Plan B - go with the flow. Your vacation can be completely ruined if something like this happens. Complain all you like - ask for a refund, refuse to cruise ever again - you can come back to land with a sour taste in your mouth, or you can just make the most of it. I learned the hard way - I spent 6 days out of 7 disappointed. Finally I realized I could change my attitude or keep up the bad vibes. So glad I changed - it was well worth it.

Bottom line: you might have a "magical" vacation or you might not. It depends on you.
 


Johnna_Story said:
It's really unfortunate that the OP had a "not magical" time. I guess it all comes down to expectations. Sounds like the OP had really high expectations, particularly for the $ she spent.

Yup, that's what it comes down to: expectations. But, how come the other lines do better in most areas for less money? I think the OP should have had high expectations from DCL.

I just watched the show on Travel Channel about DCL and the terms "Disney" and "expectations" were mentioned over and over. They said nothing about lowering expectations.
 
cruisingsoon said:
I would be happy to do a day by day for you...

Saturday--flight down (arranged by Disney, reservations were made almost 1 year in advance)-- We were not sitting altogether. My husband ended up sitting with my son and I sat further back in the plane. Waited in line at the airport for a little less than an hour to catch our bus. Bus ride was nice. I loved the movie outlining the boat. We were very excited. Got to the port. Waited well over an hour to get signed in. My son was miserable and hungry. Should have broke down and bought food at the snack bar, but were anxious to get on and get to the buffet. Ended up grabbing pizza when we got on board, 1st thing we passed. The pizza was good. Went to room and missed the departing show because my son wanted to nap. We sat outside on our little deck and relaxed. Got ready for dinner at the Parrot Cay. Met our table mates-all of us were a bit sea sick, it really moves around back there. The water in the glasses was sloshing back and forth a bit. It was a weird feeling. Food was bland, but that was not a problem since I didn't feel so good. I felt really sick by the time we got back to the room after a short walk. Went to bed to make it "stop". The curtain in the room was swaying from side to side--yuck. Called it a night. My son was exhausted anyway.

Sunday--Had room service for breakfast--donuts and pastry were poor, OJ was watery, apple juice was like syrup--YUCK. That was our fault though, shouldn't have done room service. Went to the spa for mani then later a pedi. They were ok, but I was still feeling yuck so it was hard to relax. The girl doing my nails said it would typically calm down by around 12-1 (thank goodness it did). Had lunch at Topsiders--food average. We went to the club to sign up my son. (I have already spoken a lot about the club). Spent some time by the pool--Freezing to death. It was so windy and cold still. Kids were swimming, but most sensible folks had on pants and sweatshirts. Visited the arcade, was bummed at the size. It was very small and packed with people. Later in the week it was not as packed, but there was not much for a little guy to do. He loves arcades and we usually can find enough to keep him busy for hours. Went to dinner at Lumiere's, food was bland. Environment was nice. The waitstaff really tries hard and brings new things if you do not like what you are having. We tried this a couple of times, but nothing really was good. We are food snobs--I will admit that. We are very spoiled when it comes to fresh, terrific food. My family has wonderful cooks, my brother is a chef and has worked at amazing places--The Breaker's Hotel, 4 Seasons, etc. We always have fresh herbs (growing in doors and out), grow a lot of our own produce, I love the food network, and amaze my own friends often at my creations. We travel a lot and try new things all the time. What I am saying is we know good food, but understand that a cruise line would not be what we are used to. Still what we had was no where near what we expected. The meun's were fine, the presentations were ok, but the food was often bland and yuck.

We went to the Golden Mickeys that night. We decided to wait until 10 minutes before show time to go to the theater since my son is a wiggle worm and we didn't want to go too soon. This was a mistake. The whole theater was packed!@!!!! We walked up and down the aisles. The only reason we were able to stay and see the show was because a VERY VERY nice man put his daughter in his lap, and his wife put her son in her lap, so we had 2 free seats with my son in my lap. It was a nice show, but the movie screen clips that were throughout the show were boring to my son. It was very noisy in the theater, but that was expected since there was so many little ones. If I was an adult traveling without kids I would have been very annoyed.


Monday--Went to Parrot cay for breakfast. Was sad to see the pastry and donuts were the same. Muffins were packaged looking. Tried the eggs, bacon, sausage. Eggs were horrible and powdered. Bacon was not great. Sausage was ok. Later saw the omlet bar. Oh well.

Went to kids club a couple times this day. I won't add much to the club stuff except this day I did see a poor little girl around 4 years old have a pee-pee accident. It was so sad. She was standing there with a bright red face crying pathetically in her puddle. I understand that the staff is not allowed to touch children who have accidents for very real health issues. I don't claim to have a solution either. But the little girl was screaming for a very, very long time until her mom came to get her. The staff had surrounded her and her puddle with brightly colored cones and instucted her to stay there and other people/kids to walk around her. It was sooooo traumatic for that little girl.

Went to the pool again. It was much warmer this day since we were further south. There is a HUGE amount of kids in the Mickey pool. I have personally never seen so many in such a small pool before. It was a very fun pool though for the kids. They did not seem to mind, but I jumped in 2 times to upright my son after he had been shoved over. The pool is shallow enough for little ones to walk in, but the big ones are still running and jumping everywhere. I wish there was a half hour a day for smaller ones or something. There is a Goofy pool that has bigger kids, but many were still more interested in the Mickey one since that is where to slide is. There is a Mickey ear with fountains for non-potty trained kids. But big kids were running in and out of that too and slidding over the edge of the "ears". Great pool, but hard to find a time when it is quieter/hazard free for smaller kids.

Went to late lunch at the hotdog place. The hotdogs were good, but the buns were a bit stale. Enjoyed the fries. Had soft serve ice cream too. A teenager would think they died and went to heaven. These fast food places were better then we would have expected and we enjoyed them since we don't eat too much of this at home.

I went to the gym this day. The gym was nice, although the ceiling is not too tall on the 2nd level(a ramp between levels). I am glad I am not 6 foot or would have bumped my head. The guy next to me on the elliptical had his hair touch everytime he stepped. My only real complaint about the gym (I went ~ hour Monday-Friday) it was pretty hot in there. I sweated like crazy every time. The AC was too low and there weren't any fans.

Went to dinner at AP. Our seats were not great for viewing. We were all the way up against a wall and behind one of those serving station things. It was difficult to take it all in. Food same. Servers nice. Went to the family dance hour. My son loved this. The floor was packed, bigger girls were twirling/running wildly around. Cute, but knocked my son down, twice. He was ok, and we did return a couple times later in the week since he loved it so much. Again getting knocked a fair amount. Wish they had picked a bigger dance location.

Tuesday--
Arrived at St. Maarten. Had breakfast at topsiders. Tried the mini blueberry pancakes. VERY dry. I think we went to the kids club for a while. Had a quick lunch, fruit. Went to Afternoon beach bash. It was great. Warning there are some completely naked and topless folks on that beach too. This was not a problem for us since my son is clueless still, but I did hear a couple parents with older kids complain a bit, they had said it was supposed to be a fully clothed beach. No idea. There were a lot of island folks trying to sell things. They hovered most of the time asking over and over if you wanted this or that. It didn't bother us too much, but a couple people on the bus were talking about it on the way back. There were 4 dogs running around fighting at the end of the beach time. One ran by and missed my son by inches. Regardless, we enjoyed our excursion. There were nice cushioned chairs, and an umbrella that we only had to pay $3 to use. We got to see the island on our bus ride. It was nice.

Had to rush to get ready for dinner (20 minutes for all 3 of us). Went back to Parrot Cay. I felt a bit sea sick again. Something about the location I think. Food same. But they gave all of us bandanas for our heads (pirate theme). There was a show at the end of dinner with music and the servers and kids going around the room. Our server grabbed my son and made it half way around before my son started crying. My son was afraid of the loud music and didn't know what was happening. If I had told him what to expect and that he was just going in a circle maybe he wouldn't have been scared. Oh well. We tried very hard to keep my son up for the pirate show. He just couldn't make it. It does not start until 9:45 (probably waiting for everyone to finish dinner). Bummer. Just too late for my little guy after a day at the beach.

Wednesday--St. Thomas day. Everyone on the boat had to get up early this day. We were thankful at this point that we hadn't pushed for the pirate show. Kids and their 'rents looked EXHAUSTED. Wasn't a big deal, just a hoop to jump through. Tried to go to Lumiere's for breakfast. It was filled and they would not allow any more people to go in. We ate at Parrot Cay. Left for bird show at top of the mountain on St. Thomas. The tram ride was cool. It gave a great view. We went on a short hike at the top of the mountain, had some water then saw the bird show. It was a very small area, but was cute. Headed back for the boat after a walk. It was a nice short excursion for a family with little ones.

Had lunch at topsiders, there were fresh shrimp today. That was nice. Glad that we didn't eat on the island! Went to the pool again. It was still very crowded. I would have hoped that people would all be out on excursions. Oh well. Went to the kids club. Tried again to go the basketball court. It always is very crowded and too dangerous for a little one. We expected that though.

Had dinner at Lumieres again. Tonight our dinner companions were at Palo, so we felt more comfortable telling the staff that we were not enjoying our food. They brought over the head guy, who was nice and offered to cook something that we had already had earlier in the week. We didn't have the heart to tell him that there was nothing that we tried that we would have wanted again. He was trying, but what could he do. We only talked to him in order to hopefully make a difference for future guests, we knew it would not do any good for us.

Had our pictures taken--camera staff also very nice. Did the family dance party thing again and called it a night.

Thursday--Went to the character breakfast. Tried the kids Mickey waffle and chocolate pancake--both not good at all, hard. My son wouldn't even eat them. Stuck with the fruit. My son loved that characters.

Someone passed out the night before and fell down some stairs. We made an emergency transfer somewhere and were off course now. The seas were VERY VERY VERY rough today. Up to 20 feet waves per the captains log on the TV. People were stumbling everywhere. On the top deck if you went to the back and looked forward you saw the whole boat tipping up and down. The horizon was moving everywhere. For the person who said they were not sea sick at all and they always get sea sick, I doubt it. This is the day that the kid puked in the Mickey pool. My husband who is never sick, was sick in bed all day throwing up. I felt like I could too but I was trying to keep moving and keep my mind off of it. My son kept complaining that he was dizzy and pick him up. There were people puking in trash cans. It was a very rough day at sea. I went to the movie Nemo with my son, the HUGE screen was swaying from side to side. I concentrated to not be sick. My husband was too sick for food today. Went to Disney Dream show that night (went to the early seating since we were not doing dinner). It was much less crowded then the later seating. The show was great. But it was so rough at sea still that the shutter that the girl was singing (at while she was at the window) kept swinging shut and she kept pushing it open.

Friday--we arrived late at Castaway Cay due to the stop we had to make for the hurt women the night before last. The captain was able to make up some time after the sea calmed down a bit. We were in line for about 45 minutes to get off the boat (my husband wanted off since he was still recovering). We quickly got our seats under an umbrella. Later on many people were trudging down the beach complaining that there was no where left to sit. Probably extra crowded since all/most? of the excursions were cancelled since the water was still to rough. The island was the highlight of the trip. The BBQ sauce actually had some flavor. I also had a mango that nearly made me weap with joy it was so good. We were among the very last people to get back on the boat. We were too late to get to dinner. We had room service. The pizza was not the same as the top deck pizza, it was thicker and soggy. I ordered a ceasar salad and it was tiny tiny, and the croutons were soft. Oh well. Room service we already knew was not the way to go either. We packed everything. Went for a walk on deck, had it almost to ourselves since it was cold again. Had a taco, tasteless and the shell was not cooked, but oh well. Watched a movie on the big screen. Went to bed.

Saturday--

Had breakfast at topsiders so we would not have to get up too early. Took our time getting off. Debark was pretty smooth since everyone was already gone. Waited ~45 minutes on the bus before it left. Flew home, seated together thank goodness.

To those of you I have bored senseless by now, I appologize. After my initial post and reading many of the snappy comments I wonder why I bothered at all. This more detailed post hopefully provides clarity to our experience.
No matter what I guess you just cant please all of the people all the time and some people just refuse to be pleased with anything.
 
Dixielady908 said:
No matter what I guess you just cant please all of the people all the time and some people just refuse to be pleased with anything.

EXACTLY!!!!!!

You can choose to focus on the things that do not go as well as planned (on a cruise or anywhere in life), or you can choose to have a good time no matter what 'Lady Luck' sends your way. You only go around once in life, I choose to make the best of it no matter how bad things can get.

I do appreciate that the OP took the time to write a more detailed description of the trip .... much better than the list of negatives in the original rant. It was kinda like listening to the evening news though, downplay the positives and over emphasize the negatives until you come to think the negatives are the norm.

Oh well, to each there own. Me and my family are going on our second DCL in September, we can't wait ... and we fully intend to have a GREAT time. Bring on the bad luck, I dare you!!!!
 
I don't think it's fair to say "she's just a negative person". I assume most of us have been to Disney World. I grew up in Kissimmee and had the luxury of going to Disney often but never paying full price (if at all - back in the day employees pretty much got unlimited tickets and most everyone I knew worked there)...so we also never felt the pressure to spend the whole day, do everything, and get our money's worth. And I've only been a couple times with small children. But every time you go to "the happiest place on earth" almost every third person, adult or child, you see is completely miserable!! They're hot, they're exhausted, lines are long - a Disney vacation is hard work and I think it's something most people (first timers) are just not prepared for! Growing up there, I've never understood how that was someone's idea of a vacation. Perfect as a day trip but if I had to spend a week fighting the crowds and dragging my kids through the parks, I'd go nutso!!

I'm going on my first cruise next weekend and I'm imagining a lot of people are in the same boat. Trying to have fun, maybe trying too hard because they spent so much and went through so much just to get there and trying to make exhausted overstimulated children (and adults in their party) happy.

Any vacation can be stressful but a theme park vacation is 100x...I'm assuming this is pretty much the same or at least almost. You have to go into these things prepared and knowing what you're in for. And, even if you do, you may have never done it with a three year old which I can imagine could be the most magical age to go and the most miserable age to go!!!

We recently went to an all inclusive that we got a fantastic deal on because we went the second month after it opened. We got nervous reading trip reports on another board because it seemed like everyone was complaining about everything! We decided to just go for the fun of it, maybe not have the same expectations we had when we went to another of their resorts in the past, cut everyone some slack, and just relax. Honestly, we didn't see any problems there at all!! It was all wonderful! We actually got a little tired of the staff apologizing for silly stuff. But, because of all the griping they'd heard the first two months, they gave us (everyone) two free nights to come back...we felt kinda guilty taking that because it was completely unnecessary...but we're going back in August!

It is what you make of it. But travelling is stressful - especially with kids!!!! So it's probably not as simple as negativity and I don't think it's fair to label the OP that way.
 
clovely said:
I don't think it's fair to say "she's just a negative person". I assume most of us have been to Disney World. I grew up in Kissimmee and had the luxury of going to Disney often but never paying full price (if at all - back in the day employees pretty much got unlimited tickets and most everyone I knew worked there)...so we also never felt the pressure to spend the whole day, do everything, and get our money's worth. And I've only been a couple times with small children. But every time you go to "the happiest place on earth" almost every third person, adult or child, you see is completely miserable!! They're hot, they're exhausted, lines are long - a Disney vacation is hard work and I think it's something most people (first timers) are just not prepared for! Growing up there, I've never understood how that was someone's idea of a vacation. Perfect as a day trip but if I had to spend a week fighting the crowds and dragging my kids through the parks, I'd go nutso!!

I'm going on my first cruise next weekend and I'm imagining a lot of people are in the same boat. Trying to have fun, maybe trying too hard because they spent so much and went through so much just to get there and trying to make exhausted overstimulated children (and adults in their party) happy.

Any vacation can be stressful but a theme park vacation is 100x...I'm assuming this is pretty much the same or at least almost. You have to go into these things prepared and knowing what you're in for. And, even if you do, you may have never done it with a three year old which I can imagine could be the most magical age to go and the most miserable age to go!!!

We recently went to an all inclusive that we got a fantastic deal on because we went the second month after it opened. We got nervous reading trip reports on another board because it seemed like everyone was complaining about everything! We decided to just go for the fun of it, maybe not have the same expectations we had when we went to another of their resorts in the past, cut everyone some slack, and just relax. Honestly, we didn't see any problems there at all!! It was all wonderful! We actually got a little tired of the staff apologizing for silly stuff. But, because of all the griping they'd heard the first two months, they gave us (everyone) two free nights to come back...we felt kinda guilty taking that because it was completely unnecessary...but we're going back in August!

It is what you make of it. But travelling is stressful - especially with kids!!!! So it's probably not as simple as negativity and I don't think it's fair to label the OP that way.

OMG I am ROTFLMAO How true what you said above about the parks. My good friend works for Disney. The first time I stayed on property, Fort Wilderness Cabins (Thanks to her) she said to me "Joanna, watch how the kids cry, the parents pick them up by their arms and start yelling at them (Yep, the happiest place on earth) LOL Then looks at the spouse and says, with all the money we spent we WILL have a great time" LOL So my DD was 4 at the time and when we got to Magic Kingdom, after about an hour, she said to me "Mom, can we go back to the room so I can color!!! My DH and I looked at each other and laughed so hard.
In all honesty, I think another reason for a big letdown with the cruise is all the hype from these boards. I thought Disney Dreams was going to be the best thing since slice bread from all the reviews, but to me I was quite disappointed.
Thanks for the humor.
 
clovely said:
I don't think it's fair to say "she's just a negative person". I assume most of us have been to Disney World.
clovely said:
It is what you make of it. But travelling is stressful - especially with kids!!!! So it's probably not as simple as negativity and I don't think it's fair to label the OP that way.
Agreed. Travelling with a 3 year old is definately stressful .. I know, I've done it, and most people who go to Disney World or DCL have done it. It also seems to me that there were a very large number of very young cruisers on this cruise, I didn't see any where near that may 3 to 5 year olds on our cruise, maybe we got lucky, maybe it was the time of year, I don't know.

I stayed and watched at the club and the lab, just watching to see how things were going on many occasions and found that the care was absolutely the opposite of what the OP saw. I'm not saying it didn't happen, just that I had a totally different experience.

Still, it is definately what you make of it ... I am happy to hear from people about things that did not go well, that way I can learn from them, try to avoid some things, take a balanced view from different perspectives. There are people who only post positive reports ... I guess we could label those people as being too 'positive'. Every trip has its 'good times' and its 'bad times', I guess I just find it hard to understand how any trip could be all bad.

Sorry if I offendend!!
 
We were on the August repo and went through a hurricane...people were REALLY sick, including me...but as many have said...DCL can't control the weather. As for the food, I too am a food snob...so I don't go to the buffets unless I'm getting an omelet, or it is the seafood buffet. I too am Ms. fresh herb and produce, and given the limitations of storing the amount of food needed for a cruise, I found most of the food very good...particularly the fruit. There are certain things I stay away from...green salads, Mexican food, the pizza...just no way those are going to be up to my standards, but I wouldn't expect it. DCL has a huge customer base from the midwest and east...most of these people aren't going to be thrilled w/ a real fish or carnitas taco, thin crust pizza w/o tomato sauce, or salads made w/ perfectly fresh dark greens. I've always found the soups, risottos, and freshly prepared breakfasts to be wonderful. I don't understand why you paid for a cat 4...you could have had a cat 6 w/ a balcony for lots less money. I'd be a wild woman if I paid $9000 for a lousy time, so I do feel sorry for you.
 
Boy, it just seems like OP didn't like ANYthing. I just can't imagine that. I put salt on everything, so maybe w/out it, I'd think everything was bland too. But I never found anything on 5 DCL's to be bland. Everything seemed to be "hard", "dry", "watery", "syrupy", etc. for the OP. I just can't imagine being that particular. And there was NOTHING that the head chef could bring you??? Did you think maybe it's just you?? I just can't believe that. I think they do a pretty good job w/ all those people. The food may not be gourmet, but it certainly is an enjoyable experience. Also, it may be time to cut the apron strings. Your son sounds like he's afraid of a lot of things. I like to teach my 16 month old to be independent. I don't mean to sound harsh, but you may need to step back and take a look at yourself from someone else's (about 5 pages worth) perspective. I don't think it has much to do w/ everyone defending DCL, it's just hard to imagine everything being such a downer.
 
I'm sorry you didn't have a "Magical Cruise". My experiences on the Magic were extraordinary. Recently cruised to Alaska on HAL and realized how much better the Magic is. I'll sail on other lines but only because of the cost. Right now I'm hoping to cruise the Magic in Europe next year. :cloud9:
 
Tarabra said:
Boy, it just seems like OP didn't like ANYthing. I just can't imagine that. I put salt on everything, so maybe w/out it, I'd think everything was bland too. But I never found anything on 5 DCL's to be bland. Everything seemed to be "hard", "dry", "watery", "syrupy", etc. for the OP. I just can't imagine being that particular. And there was NOTHING that the head chef could bring you??? Did you think maybe it's just you?? I just can't believe that. I think they do a pretty good job w/ all those people. The food may not be gourmet, but it certainly is an enjoyable experience. Also, it may be time to cut the apron strings. Your son sounds like he's afraid of a lot of things. I like to teach my 16 month old to be independent. I don't mean to sound harsh, but you may need to step back and take a look at yourself from someone else's (about 5 pages worth) perspective. I don't think it has much to do w/ everyone defending DCL, it's just hard to imagine everything being such a downer.

DITTO!!!!!!
 
I think all posts are welcomed here--even the reports that aren't so glorious. While reading (I'll admit I started skimming half way through) your day by day report, I noticed a lot of references to your ds. I too tried a cruise with a child slightly less than 3. I went on a carnival cruise line because they do allow the younger kids in the club. I hated it, she hated it, my dh hated it----99% because she was just too young. It was the worst vacation I had ever taken. I spent the whole time trying to accomodate her and her schedule and the kid's club schedule, etc. It isn't that it doesn't work for little kids----I just found it not enjoyable for me and my family. I have done 2 Disney cruises since (youngest dd was 5 and 7) and am going on my 3rd this July (she will be turning 9). My son was born before the first and remained home for both of them. He is making his first cruise on this one at the age of 5.

You (as in anyone cruising) have to keep in mind that while the ship offers what seems like endless entertainment, not all entertainment is right for all people. If your son is a "squirmy worm" as you describe, it sounds like any lengthy event would bore him eventually. My dd is the same way---ADHD all the way and couldn't sit still if her life depended on it. We tend to sit in the back with easy escape when necessary. Think about what you would and wouldn't take your kids to see at home? I wouldn't take a 3 yr old to see the play Beauty and the Beast but I would take them to see a Sesame street show.

As far as the kid's clubs---couldn't get mine out of there. My dd (yep--the same one) actually managed to knock herself silly by attempting to run onto a chair with wheels and then crash onto the floor onto her face. Bruised her teeth pretty good. Do I blame Disney? No. That is just who she is. She also managed to knock em on the Carnival cruise and finally did a face plant onto our street at home and finally knocked them both out. Oh yeah, I was watching her on that one.

I think we as readers can learn from both good posts and bad ones. So, I thank you for your time in writing your story. New questions can pop into readers' heads. What do I do if my child doesn't like the club? What options are there for food if I or my kids don't like what is served? (Don't they usually have a cook to order breakfast option?) We may need to pack some snacks in case we can't board as quickly as we want to and everyone gets hungry/thirsty.

Sorry my reply is so long. I hope you try the cruise again when your child is a little older and your eyes open to what to expect. It may be that a different place in time, a different season perhaps, and a different knowledge base of what to expect and what not to expect may may a huge difference.

DG
 
I agree with SKUBA2 (the above Poster) re: your ds's age. It may have come down to exactly THAT!! We all know when our kids are not happy and we try desparately to make them happy and nothing is working than we get UNHAPPY!!!

In re: to the shows....I was just the opposite with my youngest ds....we would GO EXTRA EARLY to anything from shows to MASS and sit RIGHT DOWN FRONT, so that when the show starts, ds is sooo incredibly focused on that which is right in front of him. It worked wonderfully for us. I would send my DH and older DS to hold seats for us WHATEVER the case maybe and show up at the event as it is starting.

Only problem with that is my DS is now 20 and when we lived in NYC for 4 years he ALWAYS had to have the FRONT ROW for every Broadway show....opps., probably my fault at that BUT all in all, we try to do the best we can with all our squirmy wormy's!!!!
 
just found this post. SHEESH she really didn't like her trip. Please stop attacking her because of it. most of you all would cruise with no second thoughts, WHO CARES, she was posting that she had a bad trip. If you can't say anything, without cutting into op then shhhhhhh. I see some saying the same thing, just in a nice way, well it isn't working lol. Some are even bashing her son! I hope the MODS will close this thread (I did see one give a warning a while back) it the attacks persist.
 

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