Despite controversy, Disney could unlock 'Song of the South'

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  1. crazy4wdw

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    Despite controversy, Disney could unlock 'Song of the South'

     
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  3. DisInsider

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    If Disney is trully concerned about the potential backlash a release like "Song of the South" could generate, I have a couple of ideas.

    They could create an animated short exclusively for the film that address intolerance or some of the other social issues that this release might address.

    or

    Partner with an organization like the NAACP or another one, release the film with a disclaimer at the beginning and end. They could also donate a large portion of the proceeds from the DVD to charity.

    There are many ways that Disney can do the right thing.
     
  4. Disneybag

    Disneybag The suits won't allow it.

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    I'm not sure why they don't preface it with present-day statements as Pappas said. That's what they did with Leonard Maltin and the Front Line Treasures set. The thousands of people who ride Splash Mountain everyday and have no clue where the concept came from... It's really sad.
     
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    You know, I have never understood why things from 60 or 70 years ago, when the world was quite different, would be considered anything less than historical information.
     
  7. annie1995

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    I for one wish they would unlock it. With every thing under the sun on TV now and in the movies, why would this one really bother anybody today? There is far worse out there to be watching.
     
  8. lamagique

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    I saw "Song of the South." Yes, there were some definite racist things in there, but I understood Splash Mountain so much more after it. Hmm. But about it being released officially? I am still not sure. I don't think it's the right time QUITE yet.
     
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    I just watched SOTS for the first time last week. I personally didn't see the movie as racist as I did stereotypical of that time. The stereotypes that the south of that era LOVED to put out there about blacks as slaves/servants and quit happy in that place. It appears that this film takes place after slavery had ended (only because I remember Mr. Remus could leave if he'd like) – the whole Uncle thing gets me too. Anyway, I have to say, I didn't like it. It just wasn't my kind of movie. But to be truthful, I'm not a fan of ANY of the classics, they just don't appeal to me in anyway. I think Disney has come a long way in diversity, and I appreciate that in the Disney executives. I was elated to read that Disney was adding a black princess, but still not so happy (and to be honest disappointed) that Disney has once again decided to add a non-black prince to a black princess (remember Cinderella w/Asian Price). At the very least I’m hoping that Disney makes this prince Creole (French and Indian/Native American, French and African, French and something) – it would fit perfect into the New Orleans theme.

    This is a perfect example of why so many feel that Disney has been diverse in many respects, but not so in regards to black males. As a matter of fact, the last black male that had a major role in the film was Song of the South – 1946. Not including Eddie as a dragon in Mulan – I'm talking black male humans – in cartoons or real life. - I stand corrected, my DD just said "The Proud Family", and the new movie, "Jump In" - which I loved by the way. BTW, I strongly believe that NO movie/book, etc. should be locked away. Locking a movie up only hides away what is truly a part of American History. My grandmother (an 82 year old) 2nd generation educated women would be HIGHLY offended by this film. She “hates” to see these stereotypes and well let’s just say - she doesn’t watch a lot of modern TV shows.
     
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    If we can stand Gone With the Wind and Al Jolson movies, I imagine SOTS should be ok in distribution.
     
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    Great post DJM!!!


    but "(remember Cinderella w/Asian Price)".... The prince was asian????
     
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    He was talking about the Wonderful World of Disney produciton of the Musical--with Whitney Houston.
     
  13. thefirebuilds

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    As Ronnie B and Fez Whatley point out, if they can put Dukes of Hazard on the TV there's no reason Disney they can't put this movie out.
     
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    I apologize he was born in the Philippines. And to make this whole thing so much funnier the Prince had a black mother and a white father. Cinderella had two step sisters (one white and one black) - now this is multicultural at its best - but still not ONE black male.
     
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    1) I am not a Politically Correct type of guy.
    2) I see no reason for not releasing it.
    3) A disclaimer or statement of fact should be good enough.


    NOTE: The political correctness or sensitivity issues are more "imagined" than "real". There has NEVER been any organized or unorganized display of protest against SotS or any portion of it.
     
  17. huge mickey fan

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    I have been waiting a long time for this movie. I hope it comes out! As far as the whole racist concept, we as a country have to understand history so we don't repeat it. As sad as it is, in the late 1800's the African American population weren't highly educated and for the most part were slaves or workers on southern plantations. So Uncle Remus was based on historical fact. It isn't racism but history. I don't really see how this is anymore racist than Peter Pan. I mean think about the lost boys "hunting the red man". Then when the boys are caught and they are being held by the chief and they sing "What makes the red man red?" "What makes them say how?" Obvisicously this isn't how Native Americans talk or act. I would say that is more racist than Song of the South. Don't get me wrong I love Peter Pan but I am teaching my son that isn't real Indian culture just like I would teach him about history.
     
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    Although we might not agree on everything, hopefully we can agree that just because something is based off of historical fact it’s not racist. The mere facts of slavery are racist in general. Now before I start my rant, let me say, that I'm in total agreement on releasing this movie. I personal believe that the only way we can get past racism is to deal with it - confront it. Of course I don't speak for all black people, but I personally believe that in order to neutralize a stereotype it has to be reclaimed. Many are trying to hard to lock these things away, forget them away, not sharing our experiences with our kids, and trying to desperately to shut down anything that reminds us of this history. This (IMO) is why our youth is in such disarray – many have not clue where we’ve been, or where we come from, so they have no clue where to go (this is a whole new topic). Anyway, let me explain why I think this Movie will not make its way on DVD any time soon.
    It’s a few scenes in this movie that often takes the “racist” blame. It’s that “tar baby” scene. That scene along is a mess in many ways. Remember when Tony snow made that comment at his first press briefing Snow was asked about the NSA program that has allowed the federal government to spy on thousands of Americans. In his response Snow said, “I don't want to hug the tar baby of trying to comment on the program – the alleged program – the existence of which I can neither confirm nor deny.” Yes he used that term in a way to explain a sticky situation, but WE all know that is has been used as a racial slur.

    Although I’ve heard and read that Walt himself was racist (not saying it was true, but I’ve read he was), I think the Disney Execs today have jumped extra hoops to be culturally diverse and as I stated in an earlier post, I appreciate that. If they care to continue that cultural respect, this DVD will not see the plastic that makes DVD’s. It will continue to sell bootlegs copies on Ebay for ridiculous amounts of money, but to put it on DVD when they are trying to hard to build great bridges would be a slap in the face. As long as my grandmother is alive (don’t wish death on my grandmother either) this DVD will not happen – I know some of ya’ll (yeah ya’ll) love Disney that much! Give it 20-25 more years.
     
  19. huge mickey fan

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    I was trying to make this point but you said it so much better!!! I guess I am not a writer!! I agree that to break stereotypes we need to confront and not hide from it. Again I hope I didn't offend anyone, that was not my intent. I belive strongly in history and by this I mean know it, learn from it and make the future better because of it. If we don't we are doomed to repeat it and I personally hope that never happens in my lifetime!
     
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    I'm not offended - I don't offend that easily - :thumbsup2
     
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    Good point about the Lost Boys hunting "the Red Man". My favorite example going along with that is always Si and Am from Lady & the Tramp. "Maybe we can reaching in and make it drown ... / Where we finding baby there is milk nearby". Certainly all people of Asian descent don't have hideous grammar, and all Americans and/or all Caucasians do not have an innate grasp of the English language from birth! :confused3

    It would be a sad day if they stopped production of Peter Pan and/or Lady & the Tramp!
     

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