Challenging day at MK

Discussion in 'Theme Parks Attractions and Strategies' started by eticketride, Jun 6, 2013.

  1. A Mickeyfan

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    There are no buses if you are staying off property, if you live in driving distance, if you are staying on the Monorail resort line...as you said, only if you are at a "resort" so what do the other 1,000's of guests do? You have gone 42 times in 30 years. I have gone over 42 times in one year, I live 3 hours away & I also have a house an hour away from there that was my mothers... and I encounter the down monorails all the time.. once the monorail and a ferry went down.They had one working ferry. They had to get buses in to take guests to/from the TTC! So the more you go, the more you know (that they do go down frequently) :eek:
     
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  3. PeterPanic

    PeterPanic <font color=royalblue>I hate the squeeze thingy. I

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    Well that would be true with anything. The more you do something the more likely it is that you will encounter problems. For all we know it has always been this way though, now we have these internet connections to tell us about it. :confused3 Before, we never knew. Life was much simpler, don't you think?:rotfl:
     
  4. A Mickeyfan

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    Yes, life was simpler. Even simpler back in horse n buggy days too :lmao: My point is, those that feel the transportation system is in need of repair really do know it is ;) as they go frequently and see just how often it really goes down and and how often the buses back up. If I went maybe once or twice a year, I may not see how often it does and feel it is fine. Like I said, you don't know, unless you go.
    You cannot compare it to public transportation. If you own a car, you don't have to take public transportation, however when going to the MK, if you are not staying at the CR (where you can walk), you do have to take the Disney transportation. You have no choice. You have a choice of which route, be it the Ferry, the Resort Monorail (yes, I do know non Monorail resort guests can use it) or the Express Monorail, Resort Boats, or if staying on property with direct bus to front MK gates, but not the system itself. You must use some form of their transportation system... when out in public, if you own a car, you do not have to take it.. so there is no comparison. Disney knows this and doesn't care. Yes, it boils down to money as I said before. No it wasn't always this way. The more resorts they build, the worse it gets. Back in the late 70's this problem did not exist..
     
  5. OhioDisneyDad

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    It's good to see that that the usual WDW apologists are out in full force. Just another reason I rarely visit this board anymore and another reason that I'm thankful I've never had the misfortune to meet any of you in person. As my dad used to say, "If you put their brains in a bird's butt it would fly backwards!"

    OP, you have nothing to apologize for - you had a great attitude about it all but I am sorry you have to deal with these mental giants. Peace. :sad2:
     
  6. Mama Who

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    Really, the OP is just a big whiner. Won't walk over the imaginary bridge, didn't use her psychic powers to know the ferry would be faster than the monorail...

    Some people's children! :rotfl:
     
  7. PeterPanic

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    Why is it that whenever someone tries to explain real reasons for things happening and why they can't just run out and throw money at it, they become an apologist. Isn't it possible that some may have some experience and insight that others that haven't worked or specialized in that area cannot have? No one is saying that Disney is perfect or that they aren't responsible for some of the problems that crop up, but it isn't any better to always assume the worst then to try and understand why certain things happen and how they are impossible to prevent completely. That isn't apologizing, it is an attempt to educate and let people know that there may be many things that influence an action, most of which we are not aware of nor ever think about.

    If you want to blame Disney for all mechanical problems, go for it, but that will not prevent problems just because one is unhappy about it and have pointed blame at the big bad company. I see that as being completely negative and not someone that I would want to "have the misfortune of meeting in person" either.

    I understand that people are on vacation and they don't want to be exposed to the problems of real life, but, Disney can conjure up fantasy only in certain areas. If we were talking about Universal, Sea World, Busch Gardens or any other place the reasons and explanations would be the same. I understand frustration and disappointment and I guess if people have someone to blame for it, it makes it easier to tolerate. Me personally, I'd rather know the real life reasons for things being the way they are and not based on some conjured up idea of how we would like it to be.
     
  8. chloelovesdisney

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    On our last 3 trips the monorail has been down at least 3 times each trip when we went to use it. Since it seems like this is a regular occurance, they might as well have a handful of buses ready to go and loop around the TTC, resorts and MK.
     
  9. OhioDisneyDad

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    Glad you got that apparent guilt off your chest. I had no idea you were so well connected to WDW. I guess next you'll be telling us that you were sitting in the meetings when they were doing the root cause analysis of all the various park problems (I can only assume that's where you gleaned your "real life reasons" from).

    Given your vast knowledge can you tell us when the next monorail failure will be so we won't make the same ghastly mistake as the OP (using the CM suggested alternate transportation)? Maybe they could have two lines for the resort monorail. One for the guests who are staying at a monorail resort and one for the lowlife dregs who aren't but are directed to use it when the express has one of it's daily failures. Each lowlife park visitor could then be given a good whack on the head or something to make the monorail resort guests feel better about the inconvenience. Heck, might as well let the monorail resort guests take their own swings since they've paid for the privilege.

    Now don't we all feel silly. :rotfl:
     
  10. kandb

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    PP (Ohiodisneydad), you should write comedy, you are funny and I agree with everything you are saying. Poor OP, comes on and shares their story and is not even that upset about what they went thru and then get attacked for following the directions of the park employees. When I read some of the comments on here, I just laugh.
     
  11. capegirl

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    The fact that an individual 'dared' to jump on the resort monorail has been blown way out of proportion; in the grand scheme of things it does not matter, and Disney's policy proves it. For the record, I have stayed at each of the monorail resorts, and there have been several occasions when my vacation was interrupted due to breakdowns resulting in significant delays. With that said, it never occurred to me that because I was paying extra for a room, location, and amenities, I was somehow blessed with exclusive rights to use the resort monorail, and boats, and I would therefore never have to mingle with the 'hoards' of people who were not staying at my resort. Perhaps Disney should consider 'wrapping' the resort monorail with a catchy new motto; 'SHARE THE RIDE' .
    :thumbsup2 :lmao::rotfl:

    ....and maybe all the lowlife dregs will be forced to wear special wristbands that will trigger an alarm when they jump on a resort monorail. Hmm...I'd better be careful; I'm staying at CSR this summer...I could be whacked on the head when I go to 'Ohana's for dinner.:rotfl:
     
  12. MaxsDad

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    I think you misunderstood me. I realize resort buses don't stop at the TTC. I was suggesting that after a resort bus drops off its passengers at the MK, they change their sign to out of service, don't pick up any guests at MK, go back to TTC/GF and pick up some people to take them to MK. Then return to their regular route. Do this once with each resort/park bus and you suddenly have approximately 10 buses. Or even as you suggested they could stop by the TTC on the way to the MK and pick up some people if the bus is rather empty. I recognize these aren't ideal solutions, and really there is no perfect answer, but to me that line at the GF waiting for those small capacity boats, and a ferry line that extends to the parking lot aren't very good solutions either. And as far as their contingency plans maybe they need to reevaluate them if their plans lead to those kind of waits.


    Having standby buses shouldn't be that difficult and is a good idea. Having the drivers to staff them is the harder part. We have also had monorail issues on our last two trips. I think it is funny that people seem to think that it is exaggerated or doubt what others have seen or experienced firsthand simply because they have been there sooooooo many times and have been lucky enough to NEVER have an issue.
     
  13. mom2rtk

    mom2rtk My, what red cheeks you have, Santa!

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    Yep. Especially when they are using a monorail past its life expectancy with a history of breakdowns.
     
  14. Brownsfan317

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    We were there June 7th. We took the EPCOT monorail to the TTC to hop over to the MK monorail. As soon as we got off the EPCOT monorail, we saw the line for the MK monorail and it was ugly. The queue was full to the bottom of the ramp and beyond.

    I really did not have much time to take pics or anything. At the bottom of our ramp, a CM was directing us to the left going away from the monorail line. He said there were no-wait buses waiting to take us to the MK. Down the path there were 2 motorcoaches waiting for us. We hopped on one of them and within a few minutes we were dropped off where the resort buses load/unload. After reading what had happened a day or two earlier, I am grateful that our situation was easier to deal with.

    OP-Much credit to you and your family for how you handled the situation. I don't know if I would have had the patience had I gone through that.

    As a side note: On June 9th was a MK EMH Evening. We stayed until about 12:15 (park closed at 1:00 AM). Now, I know to expect larger bus crowds, but holy cow I could not believe the line for the Coronado Springs bus (not our resort this time)!! They were the stop on the right closed to MK, but the line went all the way back almost completely cutting off traffic to the other bus depot! I had huge sympathy for those families. I could not hear everything the CM was saying, but I heard something about a detour for some of the buses.
     
  15. Brownsfan317

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    Transportation will always be a hit or miss. We stayed at Riverside in January and the buses were great except for MK. We stayed at POFQ in 2009 and never had an issue with the buses. We really liked having the boat transportation to DTD as well. I think as long as you go in knowing that there are always going to potentially be delays it is easier to deal with.

    There is a new app that I can only seem to find for ipod/iphone called DPart. It has the ability to search for the time for the next bus for any resort/park. I only have an ipod and had to use Disney internet (which is very hit or miss) so I was only able to use it a small amount of time on our last trip a few days ago. I will say that it certainly needs input from users regarding reporting bus times, but at least give you a good idea as to when the next bus is due.
     
  16. mom2rtk

    mom2rtk My, what red cheeks you have, Santa!

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    We were there that night too and left the park around 1:05. The traffic coming down Main Street was like leaving a hard ticket party. Much busier than the last time we stayed through an EMH closing.

    I was surprised at how many people were waiting at the Pop Century stop. But there were 2 buses loading. We just missed....... then had to wait a full 10 to 15 minutes for the next bus to arrive. I have NO idea what the problem was.
     

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