Michele - Yep. If there is any chance of claustrophobia, the Semi-Sub is not for you. Not that it's unbearable or anything, but for those who are prone to getting uncomfortable in small spaces like that (or like on the Disneyland Subs), this will probably not be a good idea. If you can force some Dramamine into Scotty, maybe he could manage a trip over! It is a really nice day trip or a romantic overnight trip (although most of the hotels and cottages require a 2-night minimum these days unless they have last-minute cancellations, I think). It's a great place to take nice scenic walks by the ocean and listen to music in one of the bars. The interesting thing is that the economy over the last several years had a big effect on Catalina and they lost a lot of their tourists, which, as you said, are the bulk of their income. The tourism business dwindled. So I think that a lot of the residents who maybe lived and worked there year-round - or even half of the year - probably had to start working on the mainland and possibly living there too. So I am actually wondering if the number of permanent residents on Catalina dwindled along with the tourists. It's possible that a lot of Avalon residents moved off of the Island and back to civilization just for work. My friends Jackie and Bob - who you have seen in my DLR trip reports - have a friend who lives in the Hamilton Cove part of Avalon. I posted some photos of Hamilton Cove on the previous page. He lives there for part of the year - the off-peak season, essentially - and then he rents out his condo or villa or whatever it is to tourists and visitors who come to stay for the peak months, like holiday weekends and summer. I would bet that this sort of thing is very common these days, with part-time residents renting out their homes to tourists for peak season. Then, at some point, the Chamber of Commerce or the Avalon City Council or someone or another decided to start sprucing up Avalon by way of adding in the zip line and other adventures. They replaced a couple of the old restaurants with new ones. They replaced some of the shops. They started having exhibits at the museum that is located in the Casino building. And then they started up the free birthday boat ride on the Express. So there are obviously some people who have to live on the Island year-round. They have to work in the restaurants and shops year-round. There are even some small offices there. There is a small hospital. There's a school. A lot of retirees might live there too. But, as you indicated, I would bet that only the bare minimum of those residents are working there, because it is probably not cost effective to employ lots and lots of people year-round, especially if the tourists are not pouring in year-round. And then there is probably a surge of new employees who come to live on the Island and work for the summer months only, or just for major holiday weekends, and then they go back to their real lives on the mainland for the rest of the year. I once dated a guy (probably like 20 years ago or so) who did that - he lived on the mainland for part of the year, and then moved to Avalon to work for the summer and on holidays (he worked at Antonio's, the restaurant that I posted pictures of, and somewhere else). He would stay with whichever friends he made who actually had houses in Avalon. He didn't really do it "for the money," because the money wasn't great. It was more just a way to have fun and meet people while working in a cool place for the summer! Hi, PHX! Yay! Another familiar DIS-friend! Thank you! Yes, I was glad that I did the Wrigley thing too. I always curse it at the time I am doing it, but then I'm glad later on, after I'm done with it! It's not something I would do on every trip, for sure. I've gone up there about 4 times now, I think, and have skipped it on lots of other occasions. It takes a chunk out of the golf cart rental time, and I missed stopping at some of the scenic points along the golf cart path because I wasted so much time at Wrigley! So whenever my next trip is - like IF the Express' free birthday deal is happening again next year (past April), I will probably skip Wrigley. Oh, I will definitely be asking for lots of input from you, Wendy and whomever else has Catalina input to offer when I get the Superthread going! So don't go away! I'm sure I will overlook something crucial and will need to add in things as I go. I agree about the Avalon beach - I wanted to get some photos of that tiny beach when it was not clogged up with people, but you are 100% correct. People will get there early and stake out spots, and the beach is full by late morning. And I mean, packed with people. Also, it's not exactly a quiet, remote beach. The main street there - Crescent Avenue - runs right behind it, as you know, so it is basically like you are camped out on the sand, in the middle of the hub of activity! There are some places where you can plop down on the beach that are below the main flow of foot traffic - like when you walk towards the Casino and get near the Via Casino arch and the Tuna Club and all of that - so those are a tiny bit quieter and more private, in a way, simply because they are not situated (literally) in the middle of the action. I hope to get some more rounds o' photos posted tomorrow, as well as add another installment to my DLR Trip Report.