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Cars Land at Disney’s Hollywood Studios?

Discussion in 'Disney Rumors and News' started by zulemara, Jul 31, 2012.

  1. pilferk

    pilferk <font color=red>Jambo Wildbunch Gang<br><font colo

    Reportedly, she was worried that Disney would "A.A. Milne" her. So she took a tougher line. She also was not enamored with Eisner, in general (seems to be a common theme..a la Pixar). So she took a tougher stance.

    I'm not sure you can blame Disney for not giving in. I don't think they could have made her demands work and still operate the place (and I don't mean just at a profit..but actually operationalize the things she was insisting on).

    I likewise understand why Rowling went elsewhere, and took a slightly more considerate stance.
     
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  4. pilferk

    pilferk <font color=red>Jambo Wildbunch Gang<br><font colo

    From the article:

    It's a nice promotion...something Disney does a lot of (promoting from within it's executive structure). It doesn't, necessarily, have anything to do with Cars Land coming to DHS. In fact, I'd say it very well could be the opposite...otherwise you'd just bring her over to oversee the Carls Land project, specifically, and not promote her to overseeing ALL the current projects.
     
  5. tjkraz

    tjkraz <img src="http://www.wdwinfo.com/images/silver.jpg

    That was my thinking, too. Imagineers go where projects dictate all the time. Kathy did an awesome job overseeing Cars Land and I'm sure the promotion is well deserved. But they didn't need to give her a new position just to get Cars Land into DHS.

    In fact, she should now have a great deal of input on what will be added to WDW in the future. Have to wonder about her personal philosophy. Does she want there to only be one Cars Land in the U.S. or is it something she would like to see adapted for WDW?
     
  6. umichigan10

    umichigan10 Mouseketeer

    Or even better what other original ideas does she have for WDW
     
  7. ChrisFL

    ChrisFL Disney/Universal Fan and MALE

    <sarcasm>Original ideas? What is this original idea suggestion of which you speak? If its not marketable and synergetic its NOT WORTHY! </sarcasm>
     
  8. pilferk

    pilferk <font color=red>Jambo Wildbunch Gang<br><font colo

    Creative vision is the biggest thing I've thought the WDW executive team lacked...and they've lacked it for awhile.

    IF she can develop a strong voice (and not get shouted over by the more financially focused execs constantly), this could be a nice thing for WDW.

    But that's a big IF.
     
  9. lockedoutlogic

    lockedoutlogic Mouseketeer

    A truer statement on this board has never been spoken....

    the WDW "executives" (as in they are "no power" puppets...with some exceptions every now and then) aren't in the business of using creative thought.

    they are simply "profit guards" meant to keep the peace in florida and make sure nobody lets a cow stand on the tracks in front of the gravy train.

    This notable imagineering individual COULD be the sign that things have changed in the swamp though...

    there have been some "rumors" that there is some changing of the guard type activities going on in the disney corporate hierarchy when it comes to park development and future positioning....which basically is imagineering's sole responsibility.

    The word...completely heresay...is that now that lassiter has successfully gotten his creative feet wet at disneyland and is asserting real control as "CIO"...that he is pushing forward an agenda to do the same thing at WDW...as in he feels an obligation to put an imagineering presence in florida that has teeth and stops the kinda piecemeal, unorganized approach that has gone on at WDW for too long.

    Lassiter is...luckily...a true disney romantic. He is more cut from the old cloth than anyone else they got. remember he worked there in animation under ron miller...before the barbarians were let through the gates.

    So...it could be that this is a first step toward "big developments" to come at WDW...but if so, its only a baby step.

    A real creative mind wouldn't want any part of a cars land plant in florida...and some grumblings out of anaheim have indicated that the they don't want that either. Something different - distinct draws...

    That would be a GOOD thing for WDW and all other disney parks. the end of cloning...or at least thought put into it instead of just making it standard policy.

    We shall see...they need people with:
    A. Creativity
    B. Spines

    - in WDW on the ground...and ones that aren't afraid to hold the line when it matters or get on a the corporate jet to L.A. and pitch a fit if needs be to get a point across.

    In summary: no more tools (Weiss, Wallace, Cockerell, etc.)
     
  10. HubbDave

    HubbDave <font color=darkorchid>Remember, no matter where y

    LockedOut has become one of my favorite posters on here.

    Hard to have creativity win over bean counters. Hopefully that can happen. I really hope a return to originality/imagineers in charge leads to bigger profits, and a positive cycle
     
  11. lockedoutlogic

    lockedoutlogic Mouseketeer

    Amen, Reverend
     
  12. Jitzy

    Jitzy Member

    Just at DisneySea/Tokyo Disneyland last week. Very nice parks. Beautiful details. Food, not so good. Nothing there beats EPCOT, the Signature Resort Dining and V & A's. Also, the merchandise, I found not to my taste. The Japanese are a bit more "cutesy" than me. I just want a plain shirt that says, "Tokyo Disneyland." Just like the Hong Kong Disneyland shirt I have on now, that I love!


    Very nice, friendly people work there.
    It's like Venice! Amazing!

    So glad I went. Will go back at the end of next month or early October. Let the kids go back to school. Shop more as I leave the rides, for what stores there are at the end of rides, that is. ;)
     
  13. k5jmh

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    And

    http://www.pixarpost.com/2012/08/vice-president-of-imagineering-headed.html

    This lends more credence to Cars Land getting an East Coast home.
     
  14. HubbDave

    HubbDave <font color=darkorchid>Remember, no matter where y

    How long would Cars Land (either DCA or DHS) hold appeal? 1 year? 5 years?

    The bean counters will be tough to convince to drop another $700 million if the FP plus is already bringing in dough...

    That being said, I would love them to add it...just not convinced...yet
     
  15. lockedoutlogic

    lockedoutlogic Mouseketeer

    I agree...the cars theme has a natural tie in to California and I don't necessarily think it translates...

    It is also a bad franchise. Because it sells trucks to boys...doesn't mean it's got the kind of longevity to it that they would look for in Florida (aka forever)...

    And the paints not even dry on the first one yet (though I'm sure it's chipped and needs touched up)...hold on there, Newt...

    But the bigger question is: why would anyone want the clone? It's in Disneyland to see - as many have pointed out. So if it's too far...then that really boils down to spoiled customers/ laziness.
    If The corporate heads figure "we already built it...so we can build it more cheaply/ quickly..."
    That is penny pinching...I know that it's tough to boil hundreds of millions down to "penny pinching" - but fundamentally it is so in this context.

    So again...executives worth having should go in a different direction...accountants are a dime a dozen.
     
  16. ChrisFL

    ChrisFL Disney/Universal Fan and MALE

    How long has the Tomorrowland Speedway had appeal? Its only in practically every Disneyland style park (except Paris?) and doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

    Basically what I'm saying...Cars (Pixar) characters or not is irrelevant, the land IMO stands on its own as a very nice, appealing land. The entire idea for a land was BEFORE Cars the movie came out...it was going to be CarLand.
     
  17. lockedoutlogic

    lockedoutlogic Mouseketeer

    Well...the fascination with cars is probably not the right thing to embrace e going forward...

    But that's not the relevant part: you're setting your sights to low, in my opinion...
    The impression I'm getting from you is (no offense)...kinda "it's something...let's get it"

    That kinda cloning has degraded the quality of
    The product and is pretty much all we've seen at WDW since animal kingdom opened.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, please?
     
  18. ChrisFL

    ChrisFL Disney/Universal Fan and MALE

    Oh, geez no. I DON'T want Carsland cloned at DHS, but its already built at DCA and I was just answering the question about whether it will have "staying power". Sometimes people focus too much on the characters vs. the attractions. In that case, I often use Universal as an example. People don't have to be familiar with the Mummy movies or Twister or (until recently) Earthquake or Jaws movies to enjoy the attractions as much as anyone else.

    Overall, I'm quite disappointed that the only truly unique (read: non-synergetic) thing we've had in the past 10-15 years is Everest, and that was a bit of a consolation prize for not getting Beastly Kingdom
     
  19. pilferk

    pilferk <font color=red>Jambo Wildbunch Gang<br><font colo

    Revisit early postings.

    I actually don't think it does...because then you'd bring her over to oversee that specific project. Not all of the WDW projects currently going on.

    Nevermind there's a quote in a previous article, directly from WDI, saying it's NOT about Cars land.
     
  20. DizCaptain

    DizCaptain °o° Disney Enthusiast

    SO... how about that Monsters Inc. Coaster... :rolleyes:
     
  21. lockedoutlogic

    lockedoutlogic Mouseketeer

    Yeah...that occurred to me as well...

    The reality is that even "on good authority" sources are lying to themselves to a certain extent...as in what gets green lighted is done so strictly behind closed doors and is done so strictly for money...and that's not "leaking" onto disboards or anybody who hangs out here.

    Which means that even the imagineers themselves are in a dream land half the time and seem to still not be able to rectify what they do with why they do it - it's not "art"...it's business infrastructure development.

    Joe Rhode is the prime example...shooting himself in the foot longterm by going on "artistic" tangents that have lowered future funding opportunities with cost overruns.

    So back to the "monsters inc coaster" that was a "go" at least 28 different times over the last six years...or the "fasttracked" cars expansion to Studios...be careful in who you believe...

    As in believe no one...only trust the shovels.
     

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