Belle, Aurora & Snow White switcharoo

Discussion in 'Theme Parks Attractions and Strategies' started by kennythepirate, Oct 14, 2012.

  1. mom2rtk

    mom2rtk My, what red cheeks you have, Santa!

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    And some families with very young kids don't even plan an Epcot day. I hope you'll write in. It only takes a moment by email.

    They seem to totally forget about the shy kids. And that's what has always made the one on one interactions so special for them. So sad they seem to be tinkering with this.

    For starters, it was so considerate of you to not want to distract other guests. It's just NUTTY that they are putting people in this position to begin with. Just wait until word actually gets around about this. Every single person in the groups will want to participate. I just don't see how they don't "get" how stupid this is.

    Thank you so much for posting that link. When I saw a clip shortly after they started soft opening it, my jaw hit the floor. It is the most idiotic thing I have ever seen. I thought I must have hit the fast forward button by mistake.

    And I absolutely agree with your summary of the situation. It seems incredibly crazy to build this entire village for Belle, then make her nearly unmeetable. Don't these people making decisions ever ASK people what they like about the parks? :furious:

    Then throw in that they are considering taking Belle and the Beast out of MVMCP and I'm about to just throw my arms in the air and give up.


    I hope you'll follow the earlier link from this thread and let them know how you feel.

    I can't imagine it's a character integrity issue, especially if Belle was in Town Square Theater indoors at the very front of the park and indoors in Enchanted Tales in the back of the park.

    She used to do Storytime in Fairytale Garden right around the corner from the castle where she appeared for lunch, AND in the Princess Room in Toontown. And it didn't seem to be a problem then.

    I think a LOT of us were hoping that was just some oddity that would be worked out in the testing phase. But this seems to be moving full speed ahead in the insane form it is.

    I do think there are some very smart people at Disney. Unfortunately it's pretty clear there are also some very NOT smart people at Disney. They need to hear from their customers on this one.

    Please follow the link and let them know how you feel.

    I'm glad you're going to write. They do need to hear how this will be very hard for some kids.

    Well, you used to be able to meet them together at MVMCP, but now even that seems questionable. It just seems like they put a bean counter in charge of the creative division. It's pretty obvious they really see any character meet with more than one character involved as a big drain of resources.

    I wonder if they feel like they're putting something over on people when they do this dumb stuff?

    Thank you for writing! Please keep spreading the word. We really had planned an entire Belle theme for this trip and have watched the movie several times in anticipation. This part of it is really sucking the fun out of it for me.

    I think the bottom line is that one on one character magic is an expensive commodity for them to deliver. It's what keeps a lot of us going back, but they want to find a way to minimize it.

    Sorry folks. I'm going to say it again.

    COLOSSAL MISS. Someone chase the bean counters out of the creative department please.
     
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  3. sephorachick

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    I saw belle at CRT last week :)
     
  4. mom2rtk

    mom2rtk My, what red cheeks you have, Santa!

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    My understanding is that has changed just within the last few days.
     
  5. Disney_Princess83

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    Belle and Beast are our favourites by far! It's disappointing so far. If we have to have a BOG reservation to meet Beast, honestly, I will make a reservation, meet Beast, buy a bottle of water and leave. :thumbsup2 We will eat there once but we always meet Beast several times during a trip. We like to get different photos and different combinations (all together, each have a photo with Beast ect) and don't like to hold the line up too much so we set aside time to do a few meet and greets with him when he was with Belle in EPCOT.
     
  6. kennythepirate

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    These changes just occurred yesterday
     
  7. Disney_Princess83

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    Yes, it's been Jasmine and then Rapunzel with Jasmine was busy
     
  8. BigGreen73

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    1st want to say hi neighbor. :wave2:

    But I am also surprised that WDW overall hasn't ramped up the character meet and greats in all the parks. The characters have become must do attractions for people of all ages now. My 1st trip was in 2004, at that point it was basically; Oh look there's Chip n Dale etc, let's get a pic. There was barely a line and it took less than 10mins. That was the norm for our next few trips as well. Now, you need to know who you want to see and you need get in line early or you're waiting 30mins plus. It's crazy. This is just prven by MK added FP's for Mickey and the Princesses. That has to say something.

    The parks have plenty of room to add characters and it surprises me that they don't. How great would it be if DHS had scheduled meet and great in the streets, that no one goes to now, from open to close?

    Anyway, I think that with Belle at ML, things may change when more and more guests voice how they do not like how the Belle show and "greets" are now.
     
  9. GreenCntryGirl

    GreenCntryGirl The DIS keeps me up past my bedtime.

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    You need a very special person to get that type of "play" set up in such a short amount of time. The CM is really trying to get everything in place but I would have had a challenging time getting my class organized for something like that spur of the moment even if I had been working with them for a year. Some children aren't going to want to "act." They will want to simply listen.

    I'll be curious to see how and IF they make any changes to the set up.

    ETA: And the number of adults these children must deal with...I counted 3 working with the "cast"? That's not good. Most children need to build a relationship with an adult before jumping in to something like that with one person.
     
  10. mom2rtk

    mom2rtk My, what red cheeks you have, Santa!

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    What you say makes a lot of sense. They seem to have an awareness that their desire to build attendance requires more things to occupy bodies (hence SOTMK). Adding more characters seems like a great way of doing that. Yet all they do is continue to cut back. Kenny the Pirate did a great writeup on this just recently:

    http://kennythepirate.com/2012/10/12/walt-disney-world-character-scorecard-character-gains-and-losses/

    People really need to continue to write in and complain. Oh, and I need a few volunteer kids to have meltdowns when they find out they can't meet her at the end of the show. ;) (OK, maybe kidding on that)

    Yes, they seem to be oblivious to this consideration and how it impacts a child getting to "meet" Belle at all.

    I'm guessing they think people will be so awed by their amazing new attraction that they won't even notice that they can't get a photo with Belle. Uh....... nope. Good luck with that.
     
  11. luvmy2babies

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    Well drat!

    Can I write in even though I haven't been yet? We won't go again until May, but we are on the back end of the princess phase as it is. My daughter had an incredible M&G with Belle last trip (lessons on twirling a puffy dress, hugs, a conversation about being a princess, practicing the princess wave) and I know she's looking forward to seeing her again.

    And will Rapunzel and Cinderella only be at CRT in MK now or did I read that wrong?

    Guess I'll make breakfast reservations at Akershus just in case. We like it there anyway.
     
  12. Disneymadhouse

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    Hi - can anyone confirm that Rapunzel has now replaced Belle at CRT?

    Thanks :goodvibes

    Claire :)
     
  13. Queen2PrincessG

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    UGh this is so disappointing! But there can only be a few scenarios that will be the end result:
    They will have to add a meet and greet with Belle
    Meeting Belle in France is going to become a zoo
    Booking at Akerus is going to be crazy

    I don't think Rapunzel is at CRT. It would be great if they added Belle and then switched her out with Merida or Rapunzel when the Storytime occurs.
     
  14. mom2rtk

    mom2rtk My, what red cheeks you have, Santa!

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    Absolutely you can write in! How else will they get it changed before your trip!

    And Cindy and Rapunzel are in Town Square Theater now. Cindy of course is at CRT. My understanding is that Jasmine is the princess replacing Belle at CRT and that Rapunzel just filled in when Jasmine couldn't make it.

    See my comment above. Rapunzel was at CRT this week, but my understanding is that it was just as a fill-in for Jasmine. But yes, Belle is gone from there.

    Please write in and let them know how you feel. It just seem so backwards to me that Belle has this awesome new village, and the minute it opens.......... you can't meet her.

    The meet & greet was an important and charming part of the old Belle's Storytime. I love what I've seen of the new attraction, but it needs that component put back. And they won't do that unless they hear from their guests that they need to.
     
  15. Disney_Princess83

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    No Rapunzel appears to be a short term replacement, it will be Jasmine shortly.
     
  16. Good Morning Dewdrop

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    oh boy am I behind - I thought BOG was NOT a character meal?! Now I'm gathering Beast is there - are there other characters at that meal (I'm assuming it's dinner since lunch is CS)?

    I hope this is all sorted out (in terms of Disney realizing this Belle event is not going to work all that well for the kids) before we go in January.
     
  17. mom2rtk

    mom2rtk My, what red cheeks you have, Santa!

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    No, it's not a character meal. Word on the street in the village is that Beast will be out front for photos on the way in to eat, but no more characters. And yes, that will just be dinner.
     
  18. mesaboy2

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    Since BOG hasn't opened yet, we're all speculating. But there was a recent report that Beast would appear as you arrive (like Cindy at CRT or Belle at Akershus). No other characters have entered the conversation for BOG.

    Stay tuned.

    ETA: Once again, mom2rtk and I say the same thing at the same time. I should probably just stay away when she's around. ;)
     
  19. ktlm

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    I'm afraid my child will be "volunteering" to provide that meltdown for you if she doesn't get a hug and photo with Belle! :scared: I
    'm pretty sure I can see how that attraction is going to end for us.

    She never cared for the Belle Storytime because as much as she usually loves shows, she was always bored to tears with the little play with the kids. She only sat through it for one reason- to get a hug, autograph and photo with Belle. I have a feeling Enchanted Tales with Belle is not going to go well for us. Since she is 6 now, there is a chance she will not blow up (although character meet and greets are still her favorite thing at WDW, so we will have to see)- but at ages 2-5, it would have been ugly. Now, she is more the type to walk up to the closest CM and tell them what she thinks of the new set up- she spent plenty of time on our last trip telling every CM at the Snow White ride what she thought about the fact they were closing it. :scared: I may have to take her to Guest Services after Enchanted Tales with Belle. :rotfl2:
     
  20. Disneymadhouse

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    Thanks for your replies :goodvibes

    Claire :)
     
  21. mom2rtk

    mom2rtk My, what red cheeks you have, Santa!

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    LOL. Can you tell I'm on this one?

    I had swallowed hard on the "no Belle" thing. And just as I was sort of accepting it, they tell me no Belle at MVMCP either. That sort of pushed me over the edge.....
     

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