Baby Veronica is going home!!!!

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  1. Nennie

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  3. wvjules

    wvjules DIS Veteran

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    I'm sorry to hear that.

    ETA: She's not going home. She's being ripped from her HOME all in the name of the law.
     
  4. palmtreegirl

    palmtreegirl Loving life in Florida

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    That's so sad.
     
  5. Belle0101

    Belle0101 Nothing to see here.

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    From the article the OP linked:

    "A family court in South Carolina ruled in Brown’s favor, and the S.C. Supreme Court later agreed with the lower judges. Veronica was sent in late 2011 to live with Brown in Oklahoma, where she has been ever since."

    If I understand that right, two South Carolina court ruled in favor of the biological dad.

    So the adoptive parents continued the fight, taking it to the U.S. Supreme Court.

    I think I'm with you, I'm a little sorry to hear that too.
     
  6. Coonhound

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    That poor child. She must be so confused. I think what the Capobiancos have done is unforgivable. I feel angry for her father's sake. She never should have been adopted to the C's to begin with. I feel really angry with our legal system at this point. I am all for adoption but this was not adoption it was legalized kidnapping.
     
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  8. mom2girls1974

    mom2girls1974 Mouseketeer

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    If I am reading this article right they court did not go in favour of the adoptive parents, but in favour of the birth father (who refused to pay child support -which led to the birth mother putting her up for adoption).

    I am adopted, and I know my mom has told me a couple times that this was always her biggest worry in adopting, back then (the early 70's) there was a "grace period" where the birth mother could change her mind, and my mom was always very concerned that she would -she got full "rights" when my brother and I were both 3 months old. This child is a lot more than 3 months old -I just can not imagine the pain being inflicted on the family, the child so many people. My heart is breaking.

    I hope this does not set a very bad precedent of young children being removed from loving homes! Adopted children should be aloud to feel as safe in their homes as any other kids -and honestly if their parents have a thought in the backs of their minds that they might loose them, can that effect bonding? I know my mom has said she truly started to bond deeply after her three month "grace period" was over. She took care of me, loved me, but it was always there in the back of her mind. This is not OK -not sure I am getting my point across at all, but it makes me so sad, and honestly angry.
     
  9. sbtrfly74

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    Im not sure if this is the same case I heard about a while ago but the one I saw on TV the father gave up his rights and the Indian "tribe" (sorry if thats not politically correct) wanted to fight for the child not the father.

    The reason it was on TV is it is now a problem (there were a few other cases) that even with a child with 1/18th American Indian the tribes are now challenging adoptions making it impossible for those children to be adopted outside of the tribe.

    I would agree if the story in fact was 100% true and its not the story I saw before, but I dont agree that tribes are now going after families that have already been through the adoption process legally and have no idea that their adopted child has that heritage and are being ripped apart.
     
  10. carissa1970

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    Honestly this is not to start a fight, but rather a dialogue. It is okay for a father to abandon the mother, have no interest in the child, and then later claim he wants to preserve her heritage? How is that okay?

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  11. Coonhound

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    The C's knew their adoption had red flags but they pushed them under the rug because they wanted a baby so badly.
     
  12. Belle0101

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    Bolding is mine - here in the states you just can't refuse to pay child support so I can't wholly get behind that as the sole reason why the biological mom put the little girl up for adoption.

    Parents can pursue child support through the state, at no cost to themselves. Pay checks are garnished, tax refunds are intercepted, jail time can be ordered, etc.
     
  13. Belle0101

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    From the OPs article I don't know that it's as simple as that.

    "Brown didn’t know about the pending adoption until four months later.

    The delay in notification was blamed on a clerical error: Brown’s named was misspelled when Veronica’s mother first filed the papers. But attorneys for Brown alleged that the mistake was purposeful.

    After he was served the documents, Brown promptly challenged the proceeding, then was deployed for a tour of duty in the Middle East."
     
  14. roomthreeseventeen

    roomthreeseventeen Inaugural Dopey Challenge finisher

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    I am very happy for her adoptive parents, and for her. Also a good victory for adoptive parents everywhere.
     
  15. zippingalong

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    I am beyond happy for the family and believe that the tragedy was taking her away in the first place. If you'd like to read facts, check out the SCOTUS blog and read the ruling.
     
  16. carissa1970

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    Yes, but if he was interested in his child, how would he have not known the baby was put up for adoption? It is implied that he was nowhere near the baby for months. I guess it was okay to ignore her as long as she was with the mother, but not anyone else? Just seems odd to me.

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  17. tasha99

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    I think this was a sad decision. The adoptive parents should have worked with the father the instant they knew there was deception in this adoption. Instead, they continued to fight to keep Veronica, even after it would have been kinder to let go. This isn't love; it's possession.
     
  18. palmtreegirl

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    My sister is an adoptive parent who adopted through the foster care system. She said at the start that she wasn't in it to steal someone else child, as long as the child had a fit parent or even family member that loved them she'd never get in the way of that. She even lived up to that statement when they had to return a little boy they cared and loved so much. They could've fought, they had a case, but they didn't. It hurt her so much and till this day, 2 years later, she still loves and misses him. But she kept repeating I don't want to finally start my family, by stealing someones child.

    She finally did adopt a beautiful, amazing little girl through foster care. She was placed in my sister/BIL's care when she was 3 days old. My nieces bio mom actually asked my sister to adopt her and of course my sister was over joyed and said yes. The father appeared in court and signed his rights away as well.

    How in the world are these adoptive parents going to explain taking this little girl away from her Dad when she's old enough to ask? Or even worse when she's old enough to read all the info for herself on the internet? Can't even imagine. I believe if they truly loved her and wanted what was best for her they'd let her go and stop fighting, just as my sister did.
     
  19. jrmasm

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    I agree.
     
  20. Coonhound

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    This is not a "victory for adoptive parents everywhere".
    Both parents want to place their baby for adoption? Fine. Everything is done legally? Until that baby is legally adopted she still belongs with her first family.
    Adoption is great when everything is done on the up and up.
    Veronica's mother chose this family and deliberately made it difficult/nearly impossible for the father to stop her (one way she did this is by putting his name wrong on the birth certificate). The adoptive couple KNEW there were red flags but went along with it anyway so they could get the baby.
    The father never agreed in writing or by any legal document that he wanted to sever ties to his child.
    I never thought I'd say something like this...but...I almost hope that he runs and starts a new life with his daughter somewhere else. He and his daughter have been wronged by the US legal system. If I were him I wouldn't allow anyone to come to my home and take away my child to give her back to people who adopted her in a shady way. His own child was already taken away from him once, now again- I'd have lost my faith in the legal system. V should not have been with the Capobiancos to begin with, this case clearly shows how fathers have very little rights...
     
  21. palmtreegirl

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    I agree
     

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