Avatar Land will be amazing

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  1. the who #3

    the who #3 DIS Veteran

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    i do think the harry potter forbidden ? was by far the best ride i have ever been on. we waited in line for 2 hrs and i was so sure that it would not be worth that wait, but i would do it again any day. i loved it.

    there is a roller coaster ride at disneyland paris that has something to do with crush, but i don't remember the name. it was fantastic for all ages. we loved it. wish we had one of those at wdw.:cool1:
     
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  3. JillaMagilla

    JillaMagilla Learned My Ears

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    :rolleyes: No, Avatar is not even in the top ten when adjusted for inflation.

    http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

    It is #14, behind the likes of Ben Hur and The Sound of Music and a Star Wars sequel, The Empire Strikes Back.

    And Star Wars, not Avatar, is actually the film that holds the #2 position. Star Wars sits behind an icon which has held the top spot for 74 years. Yes, as much as CGI and Cameron style hype have tried, nothing-- nothing -- can unseat Gone With The Wind.

    And as I observed earlier, if Cameron was really smart he would have tried to turn Titanic into a franchise, since it (not Avatar) is the most successful film he ever made, holding the #5 spot. Walt Disney should be proud, for two of his films (Snow White and 101 Dalmatians) are in the top eleven, both having bigger grosses than Avatar.
     
  4. twebber55

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    Lol wrong again you re looking at DOMESTIC not gross. Avatar is 2

    Also the world is different no such thing as blockbuster netflix and red box back then
     
  5. twebber55

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    None the less you re late to the party on arguing on avatar we should know one or the other if its happening by summer.
     
  6. JillaMagilla

    JillaMagilla Learned My Ears

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    Show us your sources. :coffee: And while you're at it, explain how movie ticket sales in Indonesia and South Africa impact attendance at WDW.
     
  7. twebber55

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    Wdw is the number 1 world vacation destination. People from Europe and south america make up a big chunk of tourist sorry you re wrong try google all time world gross lol
     
  8. twebber55

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    I bet you went back and checked box office mojo just to make sure you werent wrong didnt you? I like star wars and i hope (they re not) that they build a star wars land at dhs. But people who come on here claiming avatar was bad or overrated are just haters. Id rather you come out and say the movie sucked and i hope it never comes to disney. By the way it was a critical success as well earning 9 oscar nominations
     
  9. JillaMagilla

    JillaMagilla Learned My Ears

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    Actually, it is not. In 2011 (latest data available) the most popular tourist attraction in the world was Times Square in New York, which received 32.9 million visitors. The Magic Kingdom (which almost EVERY visitor to WDW goes to, so it IS the proper barometer) was actually #8 on the list at 16.9 million visitors, which put it behind Central Park, Union Station in Washington DC, the Las Vegas Strip, Niagara Falls, Grand Central Terminal and Faneuil Hall Marketplace in Boston:

    http://www.travelandleisure.com/articles/worlds-most-visited-tourist-attractions/2

    Actually, for those of us who pay attention to economic data, Asians from developed areas travel much more than either Europeans or South Americans, but I digress. You ignored my earlier point, which is that worldwide film grosses are skewed by large geographies that don't feed tourists to WDW. I'm sure a good number of people from the Indian subcontinent (with a population of 1.2 billion) saw Avatar. But how many of them did you see at Epcot yesterday? And yes, WDW is just swarming with tourists from mainland China, Malaysia, Singapore and Vietnam :rolleyes1

    And you erroneously equate the fact someone saw Avatar with them having engagement and interest in it. The sentiments of viewers shared on just this thread show that is not always the case. Here's one example from another forum that really encapsulates the "underwhelmed" reaction:

    "I spent my $20 to see Avatar, and found it to be a much preachier version of Pocahontas, but with blue people. I cannot remember the name of a single character from it, and have no desire to see any sequel when it comes out. The story was paper thin and no amount of special effects could save it. But most of all, I think Cameron is startlingly full of himself, and I foresee any Avatar ride or show to carry a heavy dose of his political leanings.

    Potterland works so brilliantly because it is based on a fully-fleshed, incredibly rich story. The books were a theme park on paper. I mean, if your job was to come up with half a dozen shops and restaurants based on Avatar, could you come up with even ONE? Could you even come up with names for those shops that people would identify with the movie?

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    So your global grosses don't prove there is some sort of huge, embedded foreign fan base that is basing a decision on whether to go to WDW on the existence an "Avatarland" with a "blue people E-ticket."
     
  10. DRDISNEYMD

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    ~Your comment made me laugh, I thought of "Tardy for the Party." :( :rotfl2:

    ~Omg... twebber55, you are so right. It's like a broken record that won't stop. I haven't had much time -- but, I'm seriously thinking of putting together a "stock answer." I have to be really really bored to do it. So, the likelihood of this happening is rare -- Avatarland will probably be here before I get started. But, who knows -- I just might surprise myself. Anyway, I can't wait for "amazing" Avatarland! :cheer2:
     
  11. twebber55

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    all time gross in movies at 2.8 billion 9 academy award nominations with 3 wins critically and commercially praised yep nobody like it let me had all time record for blue ray/dvd sales and highest movie premiere on FX.. why would i think avatar is liked...imnot spinning my facts you are, relax its just theme park expansion dont be so incorrigible (see i can use big words as well) try the new land out (if it gets build) and if you dont like it dont go back have an open mind... i for one dont like simpsons but i love the ride at IOA you may like avatarland... Cars and HP have been successful not because of the storytelling (especially cars) but because of the immersiveness of the land and the high quality done (no cut corners) if avatar is done right it will be great biooluminescent lighting floating mountains can be cool in a theme park setting
    ill give you the last word because this wil go on forever
     
  12. JillaMagilla

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    The presentation of generalizations about ticket sales data and home video usage of one film and arguing that proves it is a robust, solid foundation for an eight figure roll of the dice by Disney. Simultaneously ignoring all the other issues about said film (no proven franchise element, weak character foundation, no engaging narrative, etc.) that others have raised. And never providing references to any sources for the supposed "facts" being used in arguments.

    That is the textbook definition of spin. :teacher:
     
  13. twebber55

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    Franchise is just starting...one movie..we get it you dont like the movie..its not like you walk into avatarland and say man the rides were great and the themeing was incredible but the shot glasses in the gift shop just wasnt very good lol....so the land is a terrible idea.... can you not at least admit maybe they picked this IP for the environment which most people viewed as incredible... i get the preachiness argument heck im a conservative but the visuals are what sets this apart form any other IP IMO
     
  14. MJMcBride

    MJMcBride Barely lost is barely found

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    But visuals don't keep a franchise long standing. It makes it more of a passing fad
     
  15. twebber55

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    I guess time will tell
     
  16. MJMcBride

    MJMcBride Barely lost is barely found

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    Fair enough
     
  17. twebber55

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    Great blog again as always on your site
     
  18. StarWarsJez

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    Hmm-I too think Avatar land is a bad idea. I've not gone through all the other posts but IMO its a movie not a franchise.

    I know I'm biased but given Disney now owns Star Wars and Marvel - both with a much bigger and importantly, more proven track record - I think Disney's investment would be better spent there.

    There have been plenty of successful movies in the past that have had disappointing sequels - financially or otherwise. I'm wondering if Avatar 2 will be the next, whenever it shows up (2016?)
     
  19. MJMcBride

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    Yes marvel and star wars are a LOT more proven as franchises. What happens if Avatar 2 bombs?
     
  20. super mike b

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    Ten pages and this thread is still fun! popcorn::
     
  21. twebber55

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    Lots of what ifs what if it bombs what if its scores

    Big again no one knows although history may side with it being successful
     

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