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Discussion in 'The DIS Unplugged Podcast' started by PeterPan09, Sep 20, 2011.

  1. SoScary'09

    SoScary'09 Has Friends on the Other Side

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    While Avatar did impress me visually, I didn't care for the core of its content at all. I'm kind of a sci-fi geek, so while the world itself was vivid and pretty, the heart of the characters and the premise for the 'war' were really weak imo. Cowboys and indians anyone?

    So this isn't great news to me, but what can you do really? Maybe it'll be totally immersive, or Disney will be using newer and more innovative ways to 'kick things up a notch'. Plonking down another big tree and some whirly lizards and calling the place Avatar Land isn't going to cut it anymore. That said, I'm curious as to how they will undertake the challenge of wowing us.

    Honestly though, while Avatar was a really big deal when it came out, who knows how successful the sequels will be if they start to suck? Once numbed to this world and the cutting edge graphics, what's going to be left to impress people? Not to compare apples to oranges, but I can see Harry Potter faring the test of time far better than the demand for Naavi merchandise.
     
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  3. speedo

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    I'd rather they chose a different theme for the new land in Animal Kingdom. I really like animal kingdom but don't have any interest in an Avatar themed land.
     
  4. book_junkie

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    He did do the Aliens... [​IMG]
    there was the ExtraTERRORestrial Alien Encounter in Tomorrowland and people complained it was too scary for MK, so they closed it, and you got Stitch (and there are still complaints because IMO, people can't read a guidebook and figure out that it's going to be a little scary because this is not the tamed Stitch it's Experiment 626 before Lilo-duh)... And people complain about the Alien in the Great Movie Ride (wah! my kid was scared about the Alien coming out of the ceiling) so they toned that sucker down as well... Wouldn't be surprised if it disappears as well in the next rehab. :headache:

    I do wish they'd do the Beastly Kingdom instead of Avatar just because I personally would like the Beastly Kingdom better, but I can see where it can be called an intrusion of WWOHP- all the creatures in Harry Potter would have been features in the Beastly Kingdom. Avatar doesn't do it for me but neither really did the early releases of the Fantasyland expansion... :goodvibes

    I'll reserve judgement until they're done. :wizard:

    BTW, pretty much all of the Disney properties are borrowed from other storytelling- Grimm Brothers covers all the popular princesses, Mulan and the one from Atlantis come from other storylines, and Mary Poppins was also from books as well as Winnie the Pooh. Even Pirates of the Caribbean were based on pirates legends and myths...

    Exceptions that I can think of right now would be Dumbo, Bambi, & Lady and the Tramp... :hippie::flower3:
     
  5. jegsnakkernorsk

    jegsnakkernorsk long time lurker

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    I'm not a fan of Avatar. Disappointed in the news.
     
  6. keishashadow

    keishashadow <font color=red>Proud Redhead<br><font color=green

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    many rumours place LOTR @ U:wizard: I'm sure you're familiar with the email survey of last year pertaining to LOTR. Hard to imagine them being able to test the waters with questionaire specific as to whether fans would enjoy visiting Middle Earth, Hobbits, etc (including usage ofTolkein's name) if they weren't granted permission:confused3

    U was able to appease ms rowlings with a 'land' vs an 'attraction' and gave her of control of final product, it might just be the carrot needed for LOTR. I'd certainly enjoy it @ disney too, just think it'd be a better fit @ U.
     
  7. JenM

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    Same here! I emailed the story to my dad (who saw Avatar in the theater 4 times), and he was thrilled!

    And people loved Avatar. It opened in December 2009, but I saw it for the second time 3 months later - we still had to line up outside the IMAX over an hour before it started because those shows were still selling out.

    When it ended, I heard an older couple behind me say "that was wonderful!" and a few kids in front of us asked to see it again as soon as it ended.

    No, it's not the most original story in the world...but it was a good movie and it was very popular. If the sequels are anything close to the artistry of the first film, I think there's a lot of potential for an awesome new land at the parks.

    I'm looking forward to seeing how it turns out.
     
  8. fromscratchmom

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    Too true. Obviously the trick for me is to go opening night before I hear too much about a film. lol. Some films that have widespread appeal might still not work for me, dork that I am, but the great ones would be that much better. :woohoo:
     
  9. jimpossible87

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    Why do some people on this board think that the peple that dont like Avatar dont like change and dont support Disney and new attractions? I dont get these comments. I LOVE new stuff, thats why I follow these boards so I can read about new things. I just hated that movie. Why do people have to like it? People who dont like something you like are ignorant and stupid?
     
  10. fromscratchmom

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    With all the questioning about whether it would be a better fit for DHS... I can see that it could fit there, but I think Disney can do a good job of working in at AK as well. I suppose that part of this is just the fact that I have a very optimistic outlook on what I think they can do, but still...

    supposing they do move it to DHS, considering how many have mentioned AK needing some love I'd hope they find some fresh new inspiration to fire up the imagineers to do something just as big at AK at the same time. In fact, frankly, I'm surprised that they haven't yet with all the love the beastly kingdom idea got, the possibilities of buying into an animalia thing or a dinotopia thing. OK I get why dinotopia was a no go when they had their own competing disney dino thing they felt they had to go with, but still I believe the inspiration is out there somewhere and they will find it. What are the ideas y'all have for this? (I mean partially fleshed out ideas about what new things should be added to AK)

    And question number 2: What do y'all think about them making new attractions that don't have to cost millions and use the simpler magic of some of the best older rides? While the cutting-edge-tech angle on a new avatar project excites me and probably will excite many others, I really think they could also have some great "new" projects that simply combine older technologies in new ways and with fresh new themes.
     
  11. jimpossible87

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    Even tho Im not an Avatar fan in any way I definitely see how they can make it fit in AK . they definitely share the same ideals. No argument from me on that. it makes sense for what they want to do. do I think its a good idea? no not really. Do I like Avatar...nope. but thats just an opinion of a movie not of Disney or whatever it decides to build.

    You know what I think? They will make Journey to the center of the earth from Tokyo disney and theme it with Avatar...just something that was crossing my mind. Wasnt JTTCOTE a possibility already to come to AK?

    I do think its crazy that they already have rights to Lucasfilm stuff and theres not a whole star wars land somewhere or either one of Disneys indianna jones rides.(which both would fit into AK IMO)
     
  12. jcb

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    Actually, I think there is a LOTR theme park, it is just called New Zealand.
     
  13. fromscratchmom

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    All of this really gets my imagination going. Too bad that I don't have the engineering skill set to go with it! :lmao:
     
  14. WaltD4Me

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    Good point. :rotfl:
     
  15. disneysteve

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    Unfortunately, it seems that the vocal majority wants thrill rides. The whole appeal of Disney parks used to be (as Walt intended) that it was a place where the whole family could have fun together. More and more, however, family rides are getting outnumbered by thrill rides with a laundry list of warnings that young kids, older folks and people with health issues can't ride. That's where the big money is getting spent. Just look at WWOHP and Forbidden Journey. Months and months of hype for a ride that lots of people can't get on or is too intense for many who can get on it. Neither my wife nor daughter will ride it again. But a low-tech ride like Winnie the Pooh we will ride every chance we get.
     
  16. jimpossible87

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    i def agree. i wish they would make more attractions for the whole family not things I have to go on alone or just with my dad. i remember when i was a kid going with my family and my mom and dad and me and my sister rode everything together with just a few exceptions (space mountain) but thats what disney is all about to me enjoying something with your whole family. you can go to an amusement park in anywhere USA and go on a roller coaster
     
  17. WDW Obsessed

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    +1 I hope they keep it family oriented for sure. Yeah we all like thrill rides, but it's about bonding with the fam, not thirll rides, especially for Disney. I think as long as they keep it more like a play area with a few rides it'll work out. *shrug*
     
  18. fromscratchmom

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    I agree with these opinions on the need for attractions for the whole family and I guess what I'm hoping for in the future is a mix of the two kinds of things. Lots of whole family with still a sprinkling of thrill rides coming along :goodvibes
     
  19. baby1disney

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    I'm not saying people who don't like what I like are stupid and ignorant. That was a saying I've always been told since I've been little. If everyone liked the same things, this world would be boring. It's in the same context of people who don't like a certain race/culture because they don't understand them/it. It's in the same context who won't give someone a chance because they have tattoos all over them so people assume that they're mean and bad. These are not my own opinions, but stereotypes from all around. It is known that when people don't like something..don't like change..the first thing they do is complain and buck about it. I've done it and then once I've gotten to know someone or tried whatever it was, I either liked them/it or I didn't.

    All I'm saying is that people need to give something a chance before try start bashing it and saying that it won't work especially when it hasn't even been created yet or shown yet. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I can appreciate that. But sometimes, we humans, tend to complain a bit too much before understanding something we don't know about and that is new to us.
     
  20. nll007

    nll007 Earning My Ears

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    This rates a big meh. I thought the movie was overrated and have no plans to watch the rest of the trilogy. Is this supposed to be Disney's answer to WWOHP? And like one poster mentioned, my kid could care less about this.

    But I have to give Disney credit for one thing, they will probably do a great job with the theming. But since AK closes around 5pm, won't be be missing one of the best visuals on the movie the fantastic dark affects? The glowing trees and such could be amazing to see...if the park opened late enough for us to enjoy.
     
  21. fromscratchmom

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    ... But... Disney is so great with the "dark rides". It can be a crazy hot and bright day outside and the crowds can love the coolness and dark of the attraction. :lovestruc
     

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