Discussion in 'Purchasing DVC' started by mac_tlc, Sep 21, 2012.
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Went to ROFR on 2/5/13. Purchased through Shawn Ray with Fidelity.
115 SSR (FEB) no banked or 2013 points. All 2014 points forward. Buyer paying closing and $195 admin. Seller paid 2013 MF since points were used. $48 per point.
I know many of you would not even consider a contract like this since it is somewhat stripped, but it fit our needs for a variety of reasons and I feel like we got it for a fair price.
That is a great price. Good luck with ROFR!
Sent for ROFR on 2/6/13.
BWV-150; $64/point; October Use Year. 29 banked points from 2011 and all points for 2012 and beyond. Buyer pays closing costs, 2013 maint fees, and the $195 fee from Fidelity.
It's not the best price I have seen; however, with the lack of supply for BWV contracts that are the size and UY that we desire, we felt we needed to pay it in order to stay there this Dec or Jan.
Note: the 2011 & 2012 points were not advertised on the web site do they were a pleasant surprise.
We don't plan to go before October so right after closing we will have to aggressively look for a renter for those 29 points from 2011
Nice! That would have worked for me except for the 115 points part. That's a very nice price for a somewhat small contract. Good luck!!
Our contract went to ROFR this week.
WL villas 175 points for $63, 175 points from UY 2012
Buyer paid fees
Sent to ROFR 2/6/13
OKW 170 pts Oct UY, $59 pp, 27 pts-2011, 30 pts-2012, and all points going forward. Buyer pays all fees.
Found out on 2/5 Disney has decided to exercise ROFR. This was going to be my first HHI, but I guess not.
Congrats!!! Good luck with ROFR!
Congrats also! And good luck with ROFR!
So sorry. I know Disney was in need of HH points...we tried to add some on direct and had to go on wait list (we didn't and went for an AKV resale instead, but I know they had several HH UY waitlisted). You going to try again?
Awe thanks. I know a lot of people on here wouldn't consider this contract, but we didn't need any points until at least 2014 and my mom (who is buying these points) really didn't want to pay dues for 2013 or go through the hassle of renting points. We also take a spring trip every other year or so and our other contracts are June UY so we thought a Feb/Mar UY would be better for those trips. Plus we wanted a contract between 110-125 points. I feel like we got a decent deal for our criteria. I know there will always be a better contract/deal out there, but this one fit our needs pretty well and I felt like it was an ok price so we jumped on it. Plus now I don't need to waste my time obsessively stalking the resale boards....I think people tend to forget that "cost" when they post their amazing deals on this board.
Congrats! This is the kind of deal I am thinking about - 110-120 points, for use starting in 2014. May I ask how you came across your deal? I am just starting out and gathering information.
I stalked the 4 big resale boards daily for about 2 months. As soon as something popped up in the 100-120 point range for AKV or SSR with a FEB/MAR use year I called with an offer right away. I had a total contract price (including all closing costs) that I wanted to stick to so I crafted my offers to fit that. I offered $60/pt AKV and $50/pt SSR. If there were all 2013 points I offered half MF and to pay closing. I got tons of NO's or terrible counters so get used to rejection.
Since this particular contract was somewhat stripped I offered $45/pt and buyer to pay closing as that seems to be a big turnoff for some sellers and honestly, to squabble over $200 at this point isn't worth my time (others will view this differently). They countered at $55/pt and I went back with my "best and final offer of $48". They were on the fence but decided to take it as they were somewhat motivated and I flat out said there are no 2013 points so it is a fair offer.
I made offers with all the big 4. This contract was through Fidelty (Shawn Ray). I do feel that she was more than willing to take in low offers to the seller and negotiate for the buyer. I did not feel that way about the others, especially the TSS which basically said that I would not get a 100 point contract unless I paid asking. Fidelity was also very upfront about the admin fee which is a point of contention to some on this board. I thought the fee was worth it though and they were a pleasure to work with and very prompt. I don't forsee this getting ROFR'd so I feel pretty good about our deal. There will always be a better contract or deal to be had, but I can live with this.
There are 3 or 4 big resale brokers, not all of which can be mentioned here. The two biggest, that can be mentioned are Fidelity and The Timeshare Store (board sponsor.). Scan their listings for a while, and keep tabs on the ROFR thread.
Sent from my iPad using DISBoards App, please excuse any typos or autocorrects!
You can also request to be informed by email when new contracts are available. Some brokers allow you to specify that you are only interested by small contracts.
Awww that stinks!
And your news has me checking my email constantly since my contract is very similar & went to Disney for ROFR the day after yours. Ugh!
This is a great example of buying a contract that fits your needs. If you don't need 2013 points (which it sounds like you don't) and the price reflects the fact that it is stripped (which it somewhat does) then why not go for it? Remember, this is a 30+ year commitment, so if the size and UY work for you, then great! Plus, even without 2013 points, you still saved a TON over buying direct.
All of your reasons above are (in my opinion) viable reasons for choosing this contract and not justifications of a questionable decision. As for the statement I bolded, just remember, only one person can get the best deal. Everyone else overpays by comparison.
What's a PAP purchase?
I just made my first offer for BWV, 350 pts, at $67. per point.
I hope I didn't pay too much after reading your post.
The contract has 350 banked points from 2012, 350 for 2013 and so on moving forward. I pay closing costs, seller and I are splitting 2013 mf.
First time on this board;probably should have read it sooner, especially since I'm familiar with DIS. (just usually lurking on DCL forums).
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You got a good deal for a contract that is in high demand. You could have possibly gotten it for a few dollars less. You also could have lost it to a full priced offer while you were trying to save a few bucks.
I am one of the biggest (if not the biggest) proponent of getting the best deal one possibly can. However, given the dearth of BWV contracts in the past 9 months, I do not apply that thinking to owning there. Congrats on your deal and here's to a smooth closing.
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