...And Then Scotty Happened. A Hawaiian Adventure (CHAPTER 32 Added 5/23--THE END)

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  1. GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes

    GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes Dis Dad #469 . . . . "Nation Ford", SC

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    Well… then if it’s not stepping out of bounds, here’s a bit more of the story on the design of this fine monument (and it’s a good story).

    The memorial was dedicated on Memorial Day, 1962. Per US Navy requirements, it spans the sunken hull of the battleship Arizona like a bridge without touching it. Visually the basic shape of a peak at either end connected by a “sag” in the center of the structure evokes two separate ideas. First it has the appearance of an out stretched white sail hovering above the waters of the harbor. Secondly that often criticized “sag” represents the height of American pride before the war, the sudden depression of the nation after the attack on December 7th, and the rise of American power to new heights after the war.

    The architect describe it this way: “Wherein the structure sags in the center but stands strong and vigorous at the ends, expresses initial defeat and ultimate victory … The overall effect is one of serenity. Overtones of sadness have been omitted to permit the individual to contemplate his own personal responses … his innermost feelings.”

    The central assembly room features seven large open “windows” on either wall that extend up and through the ceiling, to commemorate the date of the attack. The total number of openings is 21 to symbolically represents a 21 gun salute or 21 Marines standing at eternal parade rest over the tomb of the fallen sailors. The other major feature is the stylized Tree of Life design at one end; the end which represents America’s growth from loss and return to strength.

    There is also an opening in the floor overlooking the sunken decks of the ship. From here visitors can pay their respects by dropping flowers in honor of the fallen sailors. Note that you should not drop leis in the water though, only flowers. This is because string from leis poses a hazard to sea-life. Leis are permitted on the guard rails located in front of the names of the fallen.

    A little about the architect…
    Alfred Preis was born and raised in Vienna, Austria. He left there in 1939 to escape the German annexation of his homeland and eventually settled in Honolulu. After the attack on Pearl Harbor, he was detained there for three months at the Sand Island Detainment Camp as part of the internment policy of Japanese and German Americans. Afterward he chose to remain in Hawaii and is known for having designed a number of buildings and structures on the island.




    We now return this hijacked TR back to its genial host who will have far more entertaining stories and pictures to share with all of us.
     
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  3. Captain_Oblivious

    Captain_Oblivious DIS Dad #257

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    Bacon? :confused3

    Oh. Well, in that case, you didn't miss anything. :rotfl2::rotfl:

    I think you're confusing me with Elvis. We eat PB&J more out of necessity.

    ::yes::

    It was really awesome!:thumbsup2


    I'm fascinated by WWII as well. Just started a book about a secret OSS mission in the Italian Alps. Anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter.


    You can count on the military to provide proper decorum.
     
  4. Ruthie5671

    Ruthie5671 Mouseketeer

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    So just a few things . . .

    The pictures - just amazing.

    Your interpretation of the Pearl Harbor visit - brought chills to my spine.

    And the unplanned meet up with the man who had lived the history - also just amazing.

    And you're only on day two! I cannot wait to read some more. :yay:
     
  5. declansdad

    declansdad DIS Dad #639 New Brunswick, Canada

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    Great updates. Happy to see you didn't get too far while I was away.
     
  6. Captain_Oblivious

    Captain_Oblivious DIS Dad #257

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    :lmao::rotfl2::rotfl:

    Now that I believe. :rotfl2:

    Hey, at least you can say you have a 2nd career option when the current job becomes too much to bear.

    ::yes::

    It's shooting fish in a barrel...

    I hope they don't forget it. We were only there for a couple of hours, but it was an important couple of hours.
     
  7. aboveH20

    aboveH20 DIS Veteran

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    Speaking of hijacking . . . :) . . .thanks for sharing this info. As navy parents we are very interested in visiting Pearl Harbor. Although I went 30+ years ago, I know it will be a very different experience this time.

    I see you're from "SC". Assuming that's South Carolina and not So Cal or some other place, I'll do a quick pitch for Patriot's Point. If you're from South Carolina, no doubt you've been, but I went there following my son's graduation from power school. Unbeknownst (how often do you get to use that word!) to me they had a memorial section and I was able to find the name of my uncle who is on "eternal patrol" somewhere in the Pacific. Very moving, very cool.


    Scotty's dad: I'm loving your report and appreciate all you shared about Pearl Harbor, too.
     
  8. GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes

    GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes Dis Dad #469 . . . . "Nation Ford", SC

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    Hi there!
    That would be South Carolina and I agree with you that Patriots point in one of the finer Navel museums around. I’m particularly looking forward to them being able to raise enough funds to break ground on their planed new building to house the current Medal of Honor memorial and museum.

    Actually both Mark and I have written about our travels to that that very fine destination.
    Mark’s experiences are related in his “Operation Big Thunder” TR
    http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2967974
    in the “Check Point Patriot” chapter

    My recent writings on it are in my “Non Disney” TR :eek: - “I should’a taken that left in Albuquerque”
    http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3047307
    in parts of Chapter 3: “A Lack of Adult Supervision”

    If you’re interested.


    Not enough can be said for the effort that the folks down there put into maintaining that monument and learning center.

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  9. aboveH20

    aboveH20 DIS Veteran

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    Thank you for the links -- off to read.

    (We've also been to Battleship Cove in Massachusetts. My husband is an army brat ((and Vietnam vet)) and he enjoyed remembering sailing across the Pacific with his family on the way to Formosa, now Taiwan.)

    Last time he was in Hawaii he was on R'n'R from his job with Uncle Sam.
     
  10. carissa1970

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    Great TR so far! Can't wait to read more. We were at Aulani last year, and will be going again next year. Your photos are great!

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  11. Captain_Oblivious

    Captain_Oblivious DIS Dad #257

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    I'm sure you agree it's worth the time and effort to visit.

    What'd you say? Sorry, I was checking my Angry Birds score.

    Hope it helps you out! One interesting, less-discussed portion talks about some of the bad things my country did to Japanese-Americans during that time.

    There were statements on the park maps/brochures asking for proper decorum and respect, and I believe the Navy personnel made mention of it once or twice as well. I don't think there was anyone inside the memorial itself to help enforce the policy, though. I could be wrong on that.

    This is great stuff! Thanks for adding to the story. :thumbsup2
     
  12. Captain_Oblivious

    Captain_Oblivious DIS Dad #257

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    Thank you! I must give credit for amazing pictures to the photographer...my wife.:goodvibes

    Well, you can't rush art. ;)

    :welcome: aboard! I agree; Patriots Point was an excellent Naval museum and well worth the time to explore. How many chances do you get to walk on an aircraft carrier?

    Thank you to all of your family members for their service.:goodvibes

    I knew you'd have that one covered.:thumbsup2

    Sounds like you have one well-traveled family!

    :welcome: Thanks! I'm sure I don't need to sell you on Aulani!
     
  13. Wherem I Now

    Wherem I Now DIS Dad #30

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    Too much to comment on in the last several updates. I just wanted to say thanks for your insights into Pearl Harbor and the USS Arizona memorial. Great pictures and a lucky encounter with the gentleman who witnessed the attack. It's sad to see that generation fading away and even more sad is the lack of respect shown by many who visit these memorials.
     
  14. franandaj

    franandaj I'm so happy, I could BOUNCE!

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    I am painfully aware of this. Something that my 3D friends remind me of constantly. :sad2:

    This is a great story! How touching. It literally brings a tear to my eyes.

    People really do suck sometimes!

    Amen to THAT!

    I really enjoyed this update, I want to go there even more now.

    Thanks for sharing that information. It adds to the understanding of the memorial.
     
  15. lovetotraveltx

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    We have 2 20 something dd's. Hope to go next September. Anything you recommend or don't at Aulani and in the surrounding area? We have already done Pearl Harbor.

    Thank you!
     
  16. lovetotraveltx

    lovetotraveltx DIS Veteran

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    Also, what guide book did you recommend?
     
  17. Captain_Oblivious

    Captain_Oblivious DIS Dad #257

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    Thanks, Mike. I'm sure the memorial will continue to be run as a special place for many years, and hopefully the future visitors will see it that way.

    Are they the ones that go to the same beach every year? :confused3:rotfl2:

    Thank you! It was such a cool experience. Just a few minutes, but special.

    Amen to THAT!

    Um...what were we talking about?:rotfl:

    I hope you make it there!

    Rob's good like that.:thumbsup2

    Well, I don't have 20-something dd's, but...

    They do have a teen spa and an adult spa at Aulani. I didn't try it out, but if they're into that stuff it would be something to look forward to. At the risk of spoiling myself, you can check out Iolani Palace in Honolulu, Punchbowl Cemetery if you're into more military stuff and some nice views, and the Pali Overlook (on the Pali Highway) for gorgeous views of the windward side of the island. The Diamond Head hike is well worth doing, and Turtle Beach on the north shore gives you a great chance to see sea turtles in the wild.

    We did not check out the Polynesian Cultural Center (due to expenses and a lack of time), but I have heard good things about it.

    For Oahu, we used this one (Amazon link below):

    Oahu Revealed
     
  18. GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes

    GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes Dis Dad #469 . . . . "Nation Ford", SC

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    Sometimes too much so...

    :lmao: :rotfl2: :lmao:
     
  19. aboveH20

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    101 pages . . . :faint: . . . then I saw you directed me to the Patriot Point entry :thumbsup2

    Scotty's dad, I don't think you shared a photo of the brig. Seeing that was enough to make me think I'd behave on any voyages the navy invited me to join!

    Dayton! My husband graduated from high school in Dayton and then did ROTC at oHIo State.

    One high school summer his job was sealing cracks on the runways at Wright-Patterson. (That was a few hundred years ago so if they looked a little shabby when you were there it's not his fault.)

    :rockband: <----- altogether, everyone sing, "It's a small world afterall. . . "

    Okay, what else would you like to know about me :rotfl2:

    (I'm done hijacking, now I'll go back to reading about Aulani.)
     
  20. aboveH20

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    Hmmmm. I have two 20 something sons.
     
  21. Captain_Oblivious

    Captain_Oblivious DIS Dad #257

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    But they're all entertaining pages. Well, some of them, anyway.

    No, I don't believe I had a picture of it. But yes, it is a powerful motivator!

    And please, call me Mark. It's easier to type. :rotfl2:

    Maybe the brig was preferable?:confused3

    No! NOOOO!!!! :scared1:

    What's your bank account number?:confused3 :rotfl:

    Where are we going with this?
     

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