Discussion in 'Community Board' started by golfgal, Feb 24, 2011.
I don't know. I know almost nothing of athletics. Their academics are top notch though.
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St. Rose is a good school. They have a good education department. I've taken DS there for speech and reading therapy and they have some great professors and clinics that allow the students to get hands on experience.
It really depends on what your DD wants to major in. I graduated from SUNY Geneseo. It's an excellent small school with a great education department. There are other good departments there as well. It's difficult to get in now. It's probably the most difficult SUNY to get into.
SUNY Buffalo and SUNY Stony Brook are two really good places to go if you want to study Chemistry. What does she want to do?
Yes, no loans at Davidson. It's a very special school for the right kid. Everyone lives on campus four years, they use Myers Brigg to match roommates and virtually all live together four years. Needless to say, they have virtually no students leaving early either. With two kids finished/through college, it's the single most impressive visit we've ever had. It has to be right for the kid, though, as it's sometimes listed as the school with the heaviest workload in the country, something they were very sensitive about.
First, great idea for a thread golfgal!
Our DS is a sophomore and we've started reading through the college books, combing through the mail and emails that have been coming in, and talking about where he might be interested in going. So far, he is mostly looking at either big schools or schools that are well-known (at least to us).
I didn't realize this about Davidson. DS did a tennis camp out there last year and really liked the people and the campus. He has a friend attending there next year as well (whose brother is currently enrolled). His hesitation was that it is really small and from his week there (on campus only) he didn't feel like there was much to do in the town/area (ignoring of course the nice big lake and outdoor activities you drive past!). I keep reminding him that he can't compare everything to UNC Chapel Hill. It is on his list right now, but I imagine that list will change a lot over the next year.
Drexel - I have family members and friends who went there for undergrad and/or grad school. All but one of them are engineers (the other a graphic designer). Good school. Very immersed in the city, not much of "campus life" as PP said.
Champlain - as a PP said, in a very pretty area. Burlington is a fun little city (although I thought someone told me the crime rate is higher than you'd think). Crazy high taxes in VT relative to income, which would only matter if someone stayed up there after graduation. I know several people who attended and all have some type of business/accounting background.
History/Social Studies Education.That's why St Rose came up as one of the choices through the collegeboard search. I know Geneseo is an excellant school but she ruled that out because it's too far away and I know it's extremely hard to get into. She's looking at 3-4 hour commute- we live on Long Island.
Carnegie Mellon has tended to low-ball financial aid, but they're also willing to negotiate if you get a better package from a similar school.
Some stats all prospective students should look at include the retention rate, 4 year graduation rate, and 5 year graduation rate. Ask current students if they can get the classes they need to graduate or if they get shut out. Ask about academic teaching loads for faculty. Do all of them teach? Are UG classes being taught by grad students?
That is the school. The trustees paid (not the school) to have any student who wanted to travel by bus to Detroit to watch Davidson in the Elite Eight.
It has a great history and reputation, and it has a nice little alumni hook-up that is very helpful in internships, jobs, etc. It has a homey feel. The president of the college personally calls an alumni if his/her child is either not accepted or is put on the waiting list. We got the call when DD was placed on the waiting list. They made some suggestions to improve her chances, but she decided to pull her application and go elsewhere. The workload is quite heavy, and there is much grade deflation. When DH was applying to law school, he was told they actually factor Davidson's grades a little differently than most schools because an "A" from Davidson is harder to get than from most other schools.
momtotravel: While it isn't as busy as Chapel Hill, the weekends are filled with activities. it is amazing the number of concerts, speakers, etc that a school that size attracts. It is very easy for students to attend games, whereas at UNC, the student population has to do ticket lotteries.
Don't overlook Spring Break. It's ideal because colleges are in session, which may be better than summer.
I had no idea Western's acceptance rate was so low. I do think of it as the school for seniors who suddenly realize, "Oh, crap! They look at your grades?" Its reputation: It's for the kids who couldn't get into Appalachain State University (a school whose popularity is growing by leaps and bounds since they became "known" in the football world a few years ago). I'd personally rank Western a tad below East Carolina in academic rigour; I wouldn't push my children towards either Western or Easy-East, but if they got a full scholarship, we'd consider it. Also, both Western and Eastern are located in remote areas, which are less popular with many students.
I agree with your assessment that UNC-Charlotte is a decent, middle-of-the-road school. Its greatest strengths are that it's well-located by all the interstates, making it very attractive to commuting students in several directions, which is also one of the reasons it has so many non-traditional students; also, it is a large university that is strong in essentially everything, making it a good choice for the student who may want to change majors down the road (without changing schools). It's one of the schools to watch; although it lacks the prestige of some of the other UNC schools, its reputation is growing.
Davidson . . . I've never quite understood why people are so enthralled with the place. But, yes, it has a good reputation.
re: Largest universities.
Technically, the largest by far is the University of Phoenix Online, but since they are virtual they really don't count for this discussion.
Ohio State has the largest single-campus enrollment: just under 52K
University of Minnesota is actually 6th. The rest of the top 10 (after Ohio State) are: Miami-Dade College, Arizona State, U. Minnesota Twin Cities, UT Austin, Central Florida, Michigan State, and Texas A&M.
(US Dept. of Education, Digest of Education Statistics http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d08/tables/dt08_236.asp)
We are from CA where getting in a state school right now, even the smaller cal states is super hard. The average GPA at some of our UCs is about 4.0. I knew this going in and didn't waste alot of time or money applying all over. My son was realistic and ended up going with what was his saftey but also his 1st choice and that was Az State in Tempe. It is number 5 on the list of top recruited colleges in the country, has only proffesors teaching the classes not TA's, has good weather, is semi affordable, has good weather and is a 4.5 hour drive from home. We were impressed with how friendly, helpful and willing the school was to a first timer. We are used to CA where the attitude of our crap doesn't stink is prevalent from top to bottom of all the schools. The town of tempe was both welcoming yet happening and fun. No huge ragin parties going on but enough fun to keep you busy. Lots of intramural sports and oppurtunities to join clubs and socialize. Nice campus, modern but still interesting. All in all a good fit for my son. I highly reccomend checking it out. Also I have heard at least where we live it is easier to get in to an out of state school then it is in state and you may recieve more aid that way.
I cannot comment on Western's fine arts program, or their general reputation as an educational facility. The only WMU students I know were unfocused heavy drinkers, but I don't think that should be seen as a reflection on the school as a whole. However, I can comment on the idea that your out of state student could 'stay down through the first summer and get in-state tuition'. It has been my experience that it is very difficult to get recognized for in-state tuition in Michigan. I know a number of people who had a very hard time getting recognized. This includes a life-long MI resident who spent a summer abroad and had to jump through many hoops upon her return to prove that she was, in fact, an in-state student. I'm not saying it would be impossible to do this, only that I would question the possibility very closely.
Great thread! I posted a while back about Savannah College of Art and Design and got lots of great feedback.
My son is UBER shy and doesn't want to go to a HUGE college like I did. He would do better in a smaller college but wants SCAD simply because of what it offers.
Since he is a junior we're taking the time to visit schools in the area every weekend or so. He's down on UGA or Georgia State simply because EVERYONE in his school is going there. Glad to see he'll finally get away from kids he's been with since kindergarten!
DD12 only knows Eastern Carolina as the school with the school colors' jello shots. (something posted on DD18's facebook by her friend who attends there).
I just purchased this book:
I'm sure they have them for many areas.
UGH...We are right there with all of you. My dd is going to visit a friends older sister at Rutgers next week (dd wants to go into nursing, and the friends sister is rooming with a nursing student)
And then she also is gong to go with another friend of ours who just graduated from Seton Hall and has nursing friends there.
Until this she has shown no interest in visiting schools. (dd is a junior) I am hoping that this will give her the spark to start looking!!
I'm curious as to what criteria you're using to help pick the right college for your kids?
How difficult or how easy it is to get into?
Everyone's criteria is so different so the "right" college is quite personal.
This one doesn't seem to be limited to area of the country. Thanks for the suggestion!
Seven kids from my NJ public high school went to East Carolina. I couldn't figure out why. Then someone let me know it ranked highly on Playboy's list of top party schools. It was a lightbulb moment on several levels.
I can't speak to thers criteria for schools but I can speak to ours.
Acceptance, cost, location, fellow student and teachers attitudes and beliefs (we were looking for a more conservative approach, not religous though) acedemic programs and somewhere that offered alot of diversions. My sons main requirements were that he boarded and that it wasn't religous. He also wanted somewhere he could get a solid education while still enjoying the whole experience. We were a little leery of ASU as we had heard it might be a huge party school. Well this mom went looking for a party but it didn't have that vibe to it at all. We liked the surrounding area and the easy flight back home. I don't want my son to have a car at college. I hope all the aid and loans work out that, is my biggest concern now.
Wow, HOW I left out cost I'll never know! I added "tuition".
Can I ask why you don't want him to have a car at college? Mine will probably NEED one.
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