Totally agree!!! I'm a hard core WDW fan and I actually bought a NON-Disney time share ON Disney property (Bonnet Creek Resort, the only non-Disney owned resort that's ON Disney property) because it's right in the middle of the theme parks on Disney property just like a Disney hotel or vacation club resort and membership cost a lot less money. (right down the street from DTD just past the water parks, actually right across the street from DVC if i'm not mistaking) And the reason i did besides cost was there was no real benefit to buying a Disney vacation club membership (or staying in an on site hotel) anymore besides atmosphere. Early mornings and the buss system transportation alone don't add up to the money I saved buying at the Bonnet Creek Resort and the resort is easily on par with any DVC resort. (plus i always rent a car) Now if they still had length of stay passes that include EVERYTHING like they use to have I would have bought into the DVC in a heartbeat. I think taking away the length of stay passes was a REAL BAD MOVE on Disney's part. Heck ... they lost the resort stay money they use to get from me almost every year forever. A,D,NO ... Bring back length of stay all park and water park passes for those staying on Disney property.