I need to get back to your PTR. Thanks!! Thank you!! From what I remember, I did not thinkg the crowds were bad at all. I loved the Flower and Garden show--I really want to go back during it. Christmas is a dream trip for me! I'm a lucky gal DH is great! I am glad it is down too! As if you did not know what park you were in? It is an icon enough without the arm proclaim it. So did we! Lilian is a cranky little girl right now! We had a great time! I have to say I am glad they took it down too.