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Old 03-04-2014, 05:53 PM   #736
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Oh yea, I have another crazy experience to share although it's a bit indirect and didn't actually happen on the ship (but the involved family did happen to be on the ship).

So it was day 2 of our WDW tour and we were staying at the Hilton @ Lake Buena Vista (so we got the extra magic hour). We were on the early 7:30am shuttle to take us to the parks when the chaos ensued....

The bus driver is slowly driving off when the bus comes to an abrupt stop and the driver opens the doors. I think I saw a brother and sister run off the bus and then get back on with the flustered parents following. First the mom storms on, points at the driver, and yells "COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE! COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE!!!" ohhhhhkay.... then the dad storms on and is like "DUDE, THEY'RE ONLY 10YRS OLD! WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM!?!?!" - apparently the kids got on the bus first and the driver drove away without the parents? I'm not entirely sure what happened but that leads to the next part...

So the lady who scolded the bus driver, proceeds to start flapping him mouth at an elderly woman who was sitting across the aisle and apparently staring or looking her direction: "EXCUSE ME, YOUNG LADY... WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM? YOU BETTER STOP LOOKING THIS WAY, YOUNG LADY!"
Apparently, the elderly woman's daughter (also with her husband and son) became extremely defensive and upset at this treatment towards her mother and said to the lady "YOU NEED TO WATCH YOUR MOUTH." to which the lady replied "YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT I'M SAYING?"

Then it was sort of a blur... the daughter was like "YEA I HAVE A [choice word here] PROBLEM WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING" followed by more choice words between both parties. All this right before the daughter got up and started rushing towards the lady as if to tackle and beat her. Fortunately, both husbands stepped in to intervene as I think the daughter would have really done some damage (let's just say she was probably two times bigger than the petite woman with major attitude).

Then everybody calmed down and apprehensively enjoyed the ride to the happiest place on earth. My wife told me about how her coworker was saying she's seen countless mommy-meltdowns especially at Disney parks. Haha, this was no exception! I think it was just early and all parties were probably stressed trying to make it on time to magic hour, etc... but way to cause a scene! I felt so bad for the bus driver - those guys must get a lot of flak from jerk-parents, and I'm sure some of them must absolutely hate it. And it's not as though the driver could have said anything or talked back because a family's complaint will probably almost always outweigh a driver's defense. Poor guy...

I guess the kids were okay, because they were just calmly sitting there as if nothing happened. LOL! My wife was irritated because the loud-mouthed mom was just sitting there sweet-talking her kids right after, as if nothing happened 5 minutes earlier... I was thinking she might have been saying something along the lines of "Now kids, do you see what happens when you get mommy upset? She turns really mean...and we don't want that, do we? So eat your veggies from now on!" ... jk hahaha

Anyway, we ended up overhearing the offended family say something along the lines of "they must be from Canada..." while walking into the entrance after exiting the bus.
We also saw our favorite instigators several times after this. We spotted them out of a crowd a couple times in the parks and then, would ya believe it, we end up seeing them on the ship too! Totally unexpected and random! I think we saw them walking around on one of the decks as well as seated several tables away from us in Enchanted Garden. I think the husband might have recognized either of us from the bus and sort of looked away embarrassed for a second. He was a bigger guy too - looks as though he played hockey or football in HS - would've been scary if he actually retaliated on the shuttle that morning. Fortunately (or unfortunately?!) no further scenes were observed from this family during any of our other encounters...gosh, I feel like I'm reminiscing about this as if I was on 'Kilimanjaro Safaris' !!!

I'll be darned if I get a reply from a very angry woman in response to my post...!

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Old 03-04-2014, 07:48 PM   #737
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Oh yea, I have another crazy experience to share although it's a bit indirect and didn't actually happen on the ship (but the involved family did happen to be on the ship).

So it was day 2 of our WDW tour and we were staying at the Hilton @ Lake Buena Vista (so we got the extra magic hour). We were on the early 7:30am shuttle to take us to the parks when the chaos ensued....

The bus driver is slowly driving off when the bus comes to an abrupt stop and the driver opens the doors. I think I saw a brother and sister run off the bus and then get back on with the flustered parents following. First the mom storms on, points at the driver, and yells "COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE! COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE!!!" ohhhhhkay.... then the dad storms on and is like "DUDE, THEY'RE ONLY 10YRS OLD! WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM!?!?!" - apparently the kids got on the bus first and the driver drove away without the parents? I'm not entirely sure what happened but that leads to the next part...

So the lady who scolded the bus driver, proceeds to start flapping him mouth at an elderly woman who was sitting across the aisle and apparently staring or looking her direction: "EXCUSE ME, YOUNG LADY... WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM? YOU BETTER STOP LOOKING THIS WAY, YOUNG LADY!"
Apparently, the elderly woman's daughter (also with her husband and son) became extremely defensive and upset at this treatment towards her mother and said to the lady "YOU NEED TO WATCH YOUR MOUTH." to which the lady replied "YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT I'M SAYING?"

Then it was sort of a blur... the daughter was like "YEA I HAVE A [choice word here] PROBLEM WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING" followed by more choice words between both parties. All this right before the daughter got up and started rushing towards the lady as if to tackle and beat her. Fortunately, both husbands stepped in to intervene as I think the daughter would have really done some damage (let's just say she was probably two times bigger than the petite woman with major attitude).

Then everybody calmed down and apprehensively enjoyed the ride to the happiest place on earth. My wife told me about how her coworker was saying she's seen countless mommy-meltdowns especially at Disney parks. Haha, this was no exception! I think it was just early and all parties were probably stressed trying to make it on time to magic hour, etc... but way to cause a scene! I felt so bad for the bus driver - those guys must get a lot of flak from jerk-parents, and I'm sure some of them must absolutely hate it. And it's not as though the driver could have said anything or talked back because a family's complaint will probably almost always outweigh a driver's defense. Poor guy...

I guess the kids were okay, because they were just calmly sitting there as if nothing happened. LOL! My wife was irritated because the loud-mouthed mom was just sitting there sweet-talking her kids right after, as if nothing happened 5 minutes earlier... I was thinking she might have been saying something along the lines of "Now kids, do you see what happens when you get mommy upset? She turns really mean...and we don't want that, do we? So eat your veggies from now on!" ... jk hahaha

Anyway, we ended up overhearing the offended family say something along the lines of "they must be from Canada..." while walking into the entrance after exiting the bus.
We also saw our favorite instigators several times after this. We spotted them out of a crowd a couple times in the parks and then, would ya believe it, we end up seeing them on the ship too! Totally unexpected and random! I think we saw them walking around on one of the decks as well as seated several tables away from us in Enchanted Garden. I think the husband might have recognized either of us from the bus and sort of looked away embarrassed for a second. He was a bigger guy too - looks as though he played hockey or football in HS - would've been scary if he actually retaliated on the shuttle that morning. Fortunately (or unfortunately?!) no further scenes were observed from this family during any of our other encounters...gosh, I feel like I'm reminiscing about this as if I was on 'Kilimanjaro Safaris' !!!

I'll be darned if I get a reply from a very angry woman in response to my post...!
That's pretty scary when tempers flare. Some people on my dh's side (especially my father in law) have really bad tempers. I found out when my oldest dd was diagnosed with high anxiety (she has a temper too) that most people with bad tempers are suffering from anxiety and it shows up in the form of a bad temper. Her psychologist explained they actually feel a sense of relief by making other people unhappy. Then, feel a lot of regret later.
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:00 PM   #738
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That's pretty scary when tempers flare. Some people on my dh's side (especially my father in law) have really bad tempers. I found out when my oldest dd was diagnosed with high anxiety (she has a temper too) that most people with bad tempers are suffering from anxiety and it shows up in the form of a bad temper. Her psychologist explained they actually feel a sense of relief by making other people unhappy. Then, feel a lot of regret later.

No kidding... what was scary was that both the husband and the wife seemed to have pretty bad tempers. But the wife just couldn't resist the extra jawing to push things over the edge. Oh and the daughter seemed to have a bit of a temper too, else I'm sure she wouldn't have reacted violently. It was just a big blow-up...
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Old 03-05-2014, 01:20 AM   #739
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If you are seated with tablemates that you just don't mesh, you can request to be moved. Just as your head server. It may be necessary to switch dinner seatings, or they may be able to move to a different table on the same seating.

I'd suggest a talk with your son about the variations of clothing worn world-wide and how it's impolite to comment on how someone is dressed (except in the privacy of your stateroom).
I guess I better I was just imagining his reaction to seeing that type of bathing suit somewhere. He would be pretty shocked. Good advice!
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Old 03-05-2014, 03:22 AM   #740
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We cruised on a Med cruise this past Sept. We are Americans stationed in Germany. One thing I cannot get over is how some Europeans do not use lines or they have no sense of personal space. Doesnt matter if you are at Mcds or in line for a cruise...they either stand behind you breathing down your neck or just ignore the line.

So we are in line to get on our excursion bus. There is a group of people...2 woman and 2 kids....I beleive they were Spanish. They walk up to the line, just pass all of us and push people out of the way and board the bus. Everyone around us was like (the english and americans) Did they just do that?? And they did it again and again during excursion and other ones we had the joy of sharing with them. It kinda became a joke...we just started parting the seas so they didnt have to push. It was so odd....it was like we werent even standing in a line at all.

I have a few more stories but I dont want to sound like I am bashing europeans. Just different cultures I guess.
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Old 03-05-2014, 06:40 AM   #741
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We cruised on a Med cruise this past Sept. We are Americans stationed in Germany. One thing I cannot get over is how some Europeans do not use lines or they have no sense of personal space. Doesnt matter if you are at Mcds or in line for a cruise...they either stand behind you breathing down your neck or just ignore the line. So we are in line to get on our excursion bus. There is a group of people...2 woman and 2 kids....I beleive they were Spanish. They walk up to the line, just pass all of us and push people out of the way and board the bus. Everyone around us was like (the english and americans) Did they just do that?? And they did it again and again during excursion and other ones we had the joy of sharing with them. It kinda became a joke...we just started parting the seas so they didnt have to push. It was so odd....it was like we werent even standing in a line at all. I have a few more stories but I dont want to sound like I am bashing europeans. Just different cultures I guess.
Well I am European....

And I totally agree! In the north of Europe we always stand in lines, and we never speak to someone that disregards lines. At the most we look angrily at the offender. It really is a cultural thing, even at a busstation or something like that we stand in line and wait for our turn. In the south of Europe lines are often considered something that is just for other people. That is actually my number one issue with Disneyland Paris. I hate it when people don't respect lines. Please don't think that all European countries do this!
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i hope nothing happens on my cruise, but i am very much looking forward to the people watching.
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:25 AM   #743
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Well I am European.... And I totally agree! In the north of Europe we always stand in lines, and we never speak to someone that disregards lines. At the most we look angrily at the offender. It really is a cultural thing, even at a busstation or something like that we stand in line and wait for our turn. In the south of Europe lines are often considered something that is just for other people. That is actually my number one issue with Disneyland Paris. I hate it when people don't respect lines. Please don't think that all European countries do this!
I am English and we certainly do nothing like this! We have been shocked, however, at the way people acted when we were on holiday in Italy. In general, people would push a lot more, be a lot louder and be a lot ruder. Someone barged past us in the supermarket queue and thought nothing of it. The beach could be a nightmare at times.

It must all be down to culture, because it didn't seem to be frowned upon at all. I'm very careful about saying things because several months ago I spoke on the DISboards about the cultural differences in Italy and an Italian American got upset (yet she didn't live in Italy, so I wasn't even talking about her!) In all honesty, Southern Europeans can be a lot pushier and more physical than us. The guy running a stall ended up shouting at us for not buying a piece of flapjack... It's very different!

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Well I am European.... And I totally agree! In the north of Europe we always stand in lines, and we never speak to someone that disregards lines. At the most we look angrily at the offender. It really is a cultural thing, even at a busstation or something like that we stand in line and wait for our turn. In the south of Europe lines are often considered something that is just for other people. That is actually my number one issue with Disneyland Paris. I hate it when people don't respect lines. Please don't think that all European countries do this!
Oh yes, we have been to England and Ireland and have seen much friendlier people! We know not all Europeans do this. We were talking with a british gentlemen while in line for our Ryan Air flight. We couldnt get over the rudest of some just butting in line. Once we had to shift our line to the right and people went nuts, darted in front of me and literally split our family in half. Then acted like they didnt even notice. I never got why the whole line didnt just shift over like we were.
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I am English and we certainly do nothing like this! We have been shocked, however, at the way people acted when we were on holiday in Italy. In general, people would push a lot more, be a lot louder and be a lot ruder. Someone barged past us in the supermarket queue and thought nothing of it. The beach could be a nightmare at times. It must all be down to culture, because it didn't seem to be frowned upon at all. I'm very careful about saying things because several months ago I spoke on the DISboards about the cultural differences in Italy and an Italian American got upset (yet she didn't live in Italy, so I wasn't even talking about her!) In all honesty, Southern Europeans can be a lot pushier and more physical than us. The guy running a stall ended up shouting at us for not buying a piece of flapjack... It's very different! Meg~ Sent from my iPhone using DISBoards
Yes, I agree English do not do this...and your right its southern europeans. I cant beleive a woman would get mad and she didnt even live in Italy!! She has no clue! I am also Italian (and German) and I will say, they just have no concept of lines..( or queue as you say!?) Love that word I even have started to say I holiday instead of vacation.
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Well I am European....

And I totally agree! In the north of Europe we always stand in lines, and we never speak to someone that disregards lines. At the most we look angrily at the offender. It really is a cultural thing, even at a busstation or something like that we stand in line and wait for our turn. In the south of Europe lines are often considered something that is just for other people. That is actually my number one issue with Disneyland Paris. I hate it when people don't respect lines. Please don't think that all European countries do this!
We flew from Newark, NJ to CDG heading to Disneyland Paris.
The no line concept started at the airport. As soon as boarding was announced, 100 people got up and were pushing and breathing down necks. We were shocked and the women in front of me says "we don't stand in lines in France".
OK, then it became apparant in Disneyland Paris.
At Pirates of the Caribbean the line is dark, inside, and in order for the people in back of me to stop breathing down my neck, I had to slid by backpack on to give me some space.
But, on the Baltics cruise, we were with our tour groups most of the time and did not notice this behavior.
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We flew from Newark, NJ to CDG heading to Disneyland Paris. The no line concept started at the airport. As soon as boarding was announced, 100 people got up and were pushing and breathing down necks. We were shocked and the women in front of me says "we don't stand in lines in France". OK, then it became apparant in Disneyland Paris. At Pirates of the Caribbean the line is dark, inside, and in order for the people in back of me to stop breathing down my neck, I had to slid by backpack on to give me some space. But, on the Baltics cruise, we were with our tour groups most of the time and did not notice this behavior.
People not waiting for their turn at airports happens everywhere in the world. I am British but I live in America. I've been to 40+ countries and I don't think I've been to one country where people actually waited for their boarding row/number to be called. That is not just a European thing. Honestly I find it worse on domestic flights in the USA.. No one seems to be able to stay seated once they call First Class boarding. It drives me crazy.

My problem with DLP is mainly the staff. Never had an issue with people pushing in line. Actually I have never noticed this behavior in Europe either unless you are somewhere crowded to start with (subway, tourist attraction etc)
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Anyway, we ended up overhearing the offended family say something along the lines of "they must be from Canada..." while walking into the entrance after exiting the bus.
They must have been because we all know that it is Canadians that are thought of in this regard around the world.
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