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Old 07-28-2004, 08:33 AM   #106
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I don't know if this has been mentioned already - but I find it funny that the two guests that pool hopped to BWV - were staying at the two hotels that other DVC members can NOT pool hop to - BCV & AKL.

Actually we saw MANY pool hoppers from BCV, who we didn't talk to. The two we did talk two was one from AKL and another from an unknown resort. The one from the unknown resort didn't even know the name of the resort he was swimming at, so I'm guessing he was either a new WDW guest, or was staying off site.
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Old 07-28-2004, 08:36 AM   #107
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A few points.

I never pool hop, not because I don't want to, but because I can't easily get out of the water & back into my wheelchair. BWV, where I normally stay, doesn't have a zero entry pool and I wouldn't be able to cope with 'bump' steps.

I sometimes find that the 'disabled' toilet is being used as a changing room. That *does* annoy me when I cannot use it.

My wife & I live in London, and our visits to WDW are our only opportunity to meet with friends & family living in USA. Our New York friends often stay over a couple of nights at WDW while we are there to be with us. They are not always at the same hotel (last trip they were at Swolfin). It is nice if they can come over to spend pool time with us one afternoon.

My father in law also comes visit while we are there. He lives in Florida and it is easier for him to visit us, than for us to visit him (adapted vans are mighty expensive to rent!). He doesn't go into the pool, but he will hang out with us poolside while my wife swims, maybe drinking cocktails from the pool bar.

Strictly speaking these are all mild abuses. I think however, the rules are needed, though pool CMs should have the right to relax them on a case by case basis, especially when the pool is less crowdwd.

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Old 07-28-2004, 08:40 AM   #108
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That's why the retirement home at OKW has such great quite pools. Everybodies sound asleep by 10 pm.
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Old 07-28-2004, 08:44 AM   #109
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I still like the term 'quiet pool'.

My wife & I like to relax quietly by the pool when staying at Boardwalk and love the small pool on the hotel side. We just like to sit & relax away from the noise of Luna Park, maybe reading a paperback.

Every once in a while the pool gets taken over by a family with noisy children, which drives us back to our room.

In my opinion, Luna Park is for screaming kids. There needs to be at least one pool where silence can be guaranteed.

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Old 07-28-2004, 09:03 AM   #110
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I still like the term 'quiet pool'.

My wife & I like to relax quietly by the pool when staying at Boardwalk and love the small pool on the hotel side. We just like to sit & relax away from the noise of Luna Park, maybe reading a paperback.

Every once in a while the pool gets taken over by a family with noisy children, which drives us back to our room.

In my opinion, Luna Park is for screaming kids. There needs to be at least one pool where silence can be guaranteed.

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I disagree strongly that silence needs to be guaranteed at a pool.

Someone on here mentioned a while back that the name quiet pool was not because of the lack of noise but because of the toned down theming of the pool area. Anyone who expects silence at a pool is being unrealistic (After 10 P.M. quiet is realistic). For example at the BWV quiet pool they hand out noodles at the Community Hall for use in the pool. I know when my kids are using them they are not quiet. But they are also not rude and/or unmannered.

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Old 07-28-2004, 09:22 AM   #111
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At BCV last week. Sign said 7 to 11, but we always saw people in it after 11. I asked a lifeguard at SAB about the quiet pools and he said the hours don't really mean anything, except they might ask people to leave if they are too loud after the 11 time.
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Old 07-28-2004, 09:22 AM   #112
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That is unfortunate. I would suggest that your friends from New York book the same hotel as you or vice versa. You could also meet with them for lunch and dinner. Then there wouln't be a problem at all!
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Old 07-28-2004, 09:29 AM   #113
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Like many of you, we started visiting Disney by staying at park resorts before buying at DVC.

In fact, I remember pool hopping as a resort guest in the mid-nineties and do not recall any prohibitions on this.

There are several concerns that have been presented that are valid and unfortunately in conflict. I think a few common sense security measures might reconcile rights of resort guests to fully enjoy the resort pools with the right of DVC members to pool hop.

First, resort guests have a right to access to the resort pool. When pool hoppers take up tables, lounges and resort guests cannot find space, the resort guests are being denied service they are paying for. In this instance allowing pool hopping is both unfair and a bad policy.

Second, pool hopping is a nice perk. When pools are not at capacity, it is interesting to check out other pools. Our kids enjoyed the slides at Stormalong Bay and Luna Park which we hopped to from OKW. Also, pool hopping tends to be for a few hours on one day of a visit in our experience. If the pool was that big a deal, we'd use our points to stay at the other resort.

Third, part of the magic of Disney is being very relaxed at your resort. Would having fences, room key entry, and CM's checking ID's intrude? (It works at Vero, without a problem.)

Fourth, security at Disney has definitely declined over the years. On our first visit in 1991, our room ID's were asked for to get towels at the Poly pool, and we had to show our ID's to get on buses or on to the monorail. That doesn't happen anymore.

So, more day trippers are using Disney transportation to go to resorts and use the pools illegally. I believe this is much more of a problem than the DVC pool hopping policy. Asking to see ID's to get on to the resort monorail, and all buses to/from resorts would make it much harder for day trippers to use the resort pools. I don't know why Disney stopped doing this, but it should start again. I think this would eliminate about 90% of the problem.

Fifth, wrist bands are a pain. They were tried at Vero on one visit there. They wound up as litter, and they were a general bother. Also, nobody seemed to enforce the policy anyway, so some folks wore them, others didn't and the result was more trouble than it was worth.

Overall, I believe the best possible approach that preserves pool hopping for DVC members, while being fair to resort guests would involve:
1. To get towels at any pool, a valid resort ID must be shown.
2. To get on the resort monorail, a valid resort ID must be shown.
3. To get on any bus that stops at a WDW resort, a valid resort ID must be shown.
4. Allow pool hopping as it is now, with the right for the practice to be suspended (as it is now) during periods of high occupancy.
5. CM's should be instructed to politely question anyone they believe to be illegally at the pool, and if caught, any tickets held by the tresspassers would be invalidated. Signs to this effect should be posted prominently wherever tickets are sold and tickets purchased through the mail or a travel agent should include this information clearly in large print.

The above is fairly easy to implement, would not add to expenses and would probably eliminate most problems.
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Old 07-28-2004, 09:41 AM   #114
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Old 07-28-2004, 09:45 AM   #115
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2. To get on the resort monorail, a valid resort ID must be shown.
3. To get on any bus that stops at a WDW resort, a valid resort ID must be shown.

Except park hoppers allow anyone use of Disney transportation - and a lot of non-resort guests visit the resorts for the restuarants and atmosphere. Particularly troublesome in the Epcot resort area - where the Boardwalk, the restuarants in the nearby hotels and the minigolf course are supposed to be big draws, but likewise, non-resort guests go to the California Grill, the Luau and the Hoop Dee Doo Review - as well as a ton of other restaurants that may not be the huge draw. Or the spa at the Grand Floridian or SSR. Resort hopping is a favorite activity of a lot of people - particularly at Christmastime.
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Old 07-28-2004, 10:10 AM   #116
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Just as a bit of info.
I was also at Vero last month and I saw a lifeguard escort a couple of young kids (punks) out of the pool area. The kid responded with horrible language, but the CM kept her cool and watch him leave the grounds.

I guess it's easier to spot deadbeats at Vero because it is isolated and these kids are probably repeat offenders.
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Old 07-28-2004, 10:15 AM   #117
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Trainfun, I agree with the sentiment of your posts, although as Crisi correctly points out a park ticket allows guests the use of WDW transportation. It would be pretty easy, IMHO for Disney to up the security level around it's pools. I think that should be a first step to deal with overcrowding problems and see how that leaves the situation.

Andrew, don't know if you've thought of this answer to your dilema. If there is only you and your wife in your room ( no mention of kids) you could register your friends (or FIL) as guests in your room. That way you would have 4 room keys/ID. As your room would be designated as taking up to 4 guests I don't think anyone is going to complain that those guests don't choose to sleep in the room. Not that I think your situation is viewed as a infringement of rules anyway.
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Old 07-28-2004, 10:32 AM   #118
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*Firmly planting tongue in cheek* That's the problem with having families vacation together, they have too much fun and make too much noise.
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Old 07-28-2004, 10:35 AM   #119
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At BCV last week. Sign said 7 to 11, but we always saw people in it after 11. I asked a lifeguard at SAB about the quiet pools and he said the hours don't really mean anything, except they might ask people to leave if they are too loud after the 11 time.


The first night it happened I was to irrate to do anything. I had been woken up and was mad. The second night it happened I called immediately as people were drinking in the pools (we are talking open cans of coke and beer IN the pools!) I saw a security member/CM couldn't tell which come down - pick up some towels around the pool - walk right past these guests and do NOTHING. I now know to request away from the pools but didn't prior as that was my first stay home. I was really surprised that the staff did nothing which was not acceptable to me. We were even on the 4th floor and could still hear all the screaming.
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Old 07-28-2004, 10:52 AM   #120
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I can remember when......lucky I can remember that far back.....staying on property you got to ride the resort monorail only if you stayed at a hotel or had a valid park ticket for the day. Others had to use the other monorail. You rode the bus on the same basis. Transportation was a pleasure. Now it is cattle call.

Maybe that's why hotel rooms can't be filled. people may be saying "what's the advantage?"
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