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Old 08-15-2014, 11:47 AM   #16
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Yeah, when you put in context with the "Disney Legend" comment it makes more sense. Still, Disney had nothing to do with Mork and Mindy.
No, but it was the iconic role that launched his career, and fits in the context of Mr. Iger's statement. IMHO.
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He took his own life I relally don't understand why people want to turn him into some kind of Martry.
When someone dies of cancer, we acknowledge that the disease took their life. Robin Williams died of depression, it was a disease that took his life.
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Old 08-15-2014, 03:14 PM   #18
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When someone dies of cancer, we acknowledge that the disease took their life. Robin Williams died of depression, it was a disease that took his life.
THIS is the message that needs to be out there about Depression and Suicide. Thank you for understanding that, I wish more people did.
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Old 08-15-2014, 06:47 PM   #19
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Disney officially refers to many if not all of their movies as "Disney's X". It distinguishes it from other productions with the same or similar titles.

In addition, the ABC that aired Mork and Mindy is still the ABC that Disney owns today. Just because Disney didn't own it at the time, doesn't mean they can't recognize it. The history still applies.

Seems some just want to find fault with Disney no matter what they do.
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He took his own life I relally don't understand why people want to turn him into some kind of Martry.
I'm guessing you've never been truly depressed in the way he and many, many others have. Consider yourself lucky. You will never understand what sorts of thoughts and emotions, as irrational as they might seem, go through the heads of those who suffer from depression.
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Just saw that disney channel is running Aladdin all weekend.
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The state of mind that he was in is something that most of us can not even begin to relate to. If we are fortunate enough to have never dealt with depression or mental illness--we have no idea what he was going through. His mental illness and depression are what killed him.

It really makes me sad when people feel like someone is less of a person because they took their life. It's so much more complicated than that. :-(
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Old 08-16-2014, 02:20 AM   #24
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The state of mind that he was in is something that most of us can not even begin to relate to. If we are fortunate enough to have never dealt with depression or mental illness--we have no idea what he was going through. His mental illness and depression are what killed him.

It really makes me sad when people feel like someone is less of a person because they took their life. It's so much more complicated than that. :-(
And for those of us who DO know what it's like to live with Depression or other mental illness, we who have seen that dark place, who have or are currently struggling... We wish there was more education, understanding, and compassion out there in there world. Clinical Depression a viscous, manipulative, horrifying disease that claims lives every single day. When a it takes a celebrity of such magnitude, as tragic as it is, that is when opportunities for learning and growth and open conversation arise.
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Tozzie I don't know really know where you think you get off. Does the fact he killed himself make him a bad person? Did he do something wrong? Does that erase the dozens of movies and millions of fans? He didn't kill himself, depression killed him. Get it right.
Thank you Kollegekreed. Someone had to say it.

Do they honor people who died from the injurys sustained from being hit by a car?
Or people who die from symptoms of cancer?
Need I go on.

Depression killed Robin Williams.

Wake up to yourself and watch your words. Didnt you get taught that words can hurt.
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Yes you are reading more into it. Robin was/is a member of the Disney family as a Disney Legend. Nothing sneaky or crass about his words.
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He took his own life I relally don't understand why people want to turn him into some kind of Martry.
First of all, it's martyr. And a martyr is someone who is killed or dies for their beliefs. So your word is used wrong and misspelled.
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I believe that Robin Williams was a gifted and talented man who gave generously and selflessly to others. I am pleased to see all the loving tributes. He made Disney quite a lot of money so it's good to see the recognition from Isner, regardless of how he died. The Genie was and always will be a true classic character.

It reminds me of the day that I walked in to "find" my fiancée and father of my daughter in our home 14 years ago when I was 5 months pregnant with her. Suicide leaves behind nasty lifelong scars for those who loved and cherished the deceased but in no way should it diminish his accomplishments and contributions. I can only assume that when a person makes insensitive comments that he or she hasn't felt the repercussions of suicide first hand.

What comes after a suicide, or any death for that matter, is completely based on faith. Some believe Heaven or the other direction, some believe total blackness, others believe reincarnation. Who's right? I can't even say for sure if what I believe is the one and only answer. (Not written to start a debate, but simply to consider that there are multiple faiths represented here in the Dis). What despair, sadness, and hopelessness a person must feel to take that irreversible leap of faith. You don't know until you go. Suicide victims are brave in my eyes. Nothing on earth would make me choose that.

I just hope that by his very public death, some people can begin see suicide in a different light. May you never be cursed to live with the loss of a loved one by suicide. Hopefully the folks who make insensitive comments can educate themselves a little about the intensity of depression. It's a real darkness, unlike anything a healthy-brained individual has ever experienced. My fiancé would talk (and cry) to me all the time about what it's like. It's was scary for him that he couldn't shake it off, or "get over it". Believe me, the guy tried it all. I tried everything I could to help him too. He was never alone but he sure felt like it. He fought like a warrior every single second for most of his life to beat this. He lasted 30 years. He fought a good fight but sadly he just couldn't hang on any longer.

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I'm guessing you relally don't understand what a Martry is.
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He took his own life I relally don't understand why people want to turn him into some kind of Martry.
This is a very cruel comment. Clearly you have been lucky enough to never have been devestated by a loved ones suicide. Consider yourself very lucky. I hope you never know how that loss feels. I unfortunatly have been devestated by suicide. It's something that you never really get over. How can you not have any sympathy for a person who was so distraught that he felt the only way to escape it was to end his life? Can you imagine being trapped in your own eternal suffering and misery? How can you be so full of yourself to look down on someone who was in this much pain?

Robin Williams was an icon that brought laughter to so many even through his own personal suffering. I think it's sad that so many people have hid behind thier computer screens and said so many awful things about this man! Shame on them and shame on you! No matter what he will forever be remembered as one of the greats!
I just hope he found his inner peace finally!

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