Disney Information Station Logo

Go Back   The DIS Discussion Forums - DISboards.com > Disney Trip Planning Forums > Disney Restaurants
Find Hotel Specials & DIScounts
 
facebooktwitterpinterestgoogle plusyoutubeDIS UpdatesDIS email updates
Register Chat FAQ Tickers Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read





Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 07-08-2014, 04:06 PM   #106
DVCkidsMOM
DIS Veteran
 
DVCkidsMOM's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: rural SE TX near Gulf Coast
Posts: 762

Quote:
Originally Posted by NewRVLady View Post
...
I really feel SERIOUSLY, that Disney RUINED the WDW experience with FREE DINING....
Totally agree!
I want more restaurants that are not DDP, so that the quality and originality can return. I would think that the chefs want the same.

So far, we are planning on keeping our December ADR. We didn't eat the crab at CMC anyway, but we would change our plan if our fave items disappeared off the menu or if the chef no longer went out of his way to accommodate our allergies.
__________________
-Linda
DVCkidsMOM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2014, 06:07 PM   #107
Polynesian27
Mouseketeer
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 293

Very upsetting, this was a yearly tradition of ours since I was a kid to eat at CMC for the crab legs. It's really sad to see the impact of free dining and the ever so common reality of the food quality going downhill and the prices going up and so many disney restaurants. We won't be going to the CMC anymore if this is all true.
Polynesian27 is offline   Reply With Quote
|
The DIS
Register to remove

Join Date: 1997
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 1,000,000
Old 07-08-2014, 08:20 PM   #108
frannn
please stop the madnesssss already & tag me
From the TF...someone pls call 911 for Frann, she held her breath until I tagged her and she apparently turned blue and fell down. :)
 
frannn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Posts: 5,353

What are the current non seafood offerings here?

I liked the crab legs in the past, but it was never the center of my meal. I like the crabs and mussels more. I remember that they used to have beef ribs. Are these still there, or is it just a chicken dish? I won't cancel our ressie over the loss of crab legs there, but that's just my preference. Now if Ohana ditched the wings....ba-bye!!!
__________________
frannn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2014, 10:22 PM   #109
carmelhp
Mouseketeer
 
carmelhp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Carmel, IN
Posts: 358

How is the misnamed "free dining" to blame? Because WDW restaurants don't even have to try to get customers? That makes it a management and organizational caused problem, not a customer caused problem, right? I just want WDW restaurants to act like they want customers to come in, instead of acting like they are an inconvenience.
__________________
POP 12/11-12/15/2012
RPR 12/15-12/18/2012
POR 9/12-10/1/2013
RPR 12/3-12/12/2014
MVMCP 2012 & 2014
MNSSHP 2013
carmelhp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2014, 11:21 PM   #110
Karlzmom
DIS Veteran
 
Karlzmom's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 2,444

Quote:
Originally Posted by Disney Doc View Post
Agreed. For many years, crab legs were not part of the buffet selection, and those trips are my fondest recollections of Cape May dinners.
What were you paying in the good old days? Was it as much as now? Would you have felt as good about the meal paying today's prices for what you got then?
__________________
= ME, 42= DH, 68 = DS, 8
POLY 2006 & 2008 YACHT CLUB 2008 & 2009
BWI 2011 OKW 2011WL 2011
AKV 2012, 2013 & 2014 BWV 2013
Disney Wonder to Alaska 2014
Back to Alaska on the Wonder in 2015

KATIE Yes, I'm the Jeopardy! champ......
Karlzmom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2014, 08:06 AM   #111
Eastern
DIS Veteran
 
Eastern's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,895

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonyz View Post
You can definitely get by on counter services, alone! The best of CS is better than a lot (maybe most?) of the 1 credit TS.

But there are a few 1 credits that still seem to be worth doing for quality food: Kona, Sanaa, Boma, Wave.

But yeah, those few aside, signatures and CS all the way, baby!
Yes to Kona and Sanaa. Never been to Boma or Wave but may try Wave this trip.
Eastern is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2014, 09:36 AM   #112
lauritagoddess
Disney mommy
 
lauritagoddess's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,429

I hope we can get some more people who are at WDW now weighing in on whether the crab legs are still there. We usually go each trip and my DS loves the crab legs. In fact, it's usually almost the only thing he eats there. If there's no crab legs, then I would definitely cancel our ADR there next month.
__________________
Laura and DS, 12

CR 2/28-3/5/06, ASMo 8/27-9/3/06, CBR 8/22/07, DCL Wonder 8/23-8/26/07, OKW 8/26 -9/2/07, ASMU 1/23-1/27/08, DLR - 6/15-6/22/08, DCL EB PC Repo 8/17-9/1/08, Pop 3/1-3/6/09, AS Sp 6/20-6/27/09, DLR 2/14-2/20/10, Pop 6/20-6/27/10, DLR - 2/19-2/26/11, Pop 8/20-9/3/11, DLR 2/18-2/25/12, CSR 8/24-9/2/12, DLR 2/16-2/23/13, YC 8/24-9/1/13, DLR 2/15-2/22/14, CR 8/23-8/31/14, **CBR 8/22-9/5/15

lauritagoddess is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2014, 10:09 AM   #113
aaarcher86
DIS Veteran
 
aaarcher86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 8,043

I think I'll make a backup ADR in case this is still happening in September, but I think this obviously has more to do with the crabbing issues versus Disney just feeling like removing them. We will see I guess.

Quote:
Originally Posted by carmelhp View Post
How is the misnamed "free dining" to blame? Because WDW restaurants don't even have to try to get customers? That makes it a management and organizational caused problem, not a customer caused problem, right? I just want WDW restaurants to act like they want customers to come in, instead of acting like they are an inconvenience.
People seem to think that Free Dining caused Disney to lower their food quality and offer bland dishes.

It couldn't have anything to do with people complaining about anything that has a unique taste, wanting the same chicken nuggets and burgers as kid options, or having so many allergies, eating twice the normal sized servings, and special dietary requests that it isn't worth creating unique dishes anymore.

It honestly only takes a quick look at some of the threads wanting unique dishes and better options for kids, and then peek into the BOG thread to see people complaining about the exact thing they asked for.
__________________
aaarcher86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2014, 10:31 AM   #114
carmelhp
Mouseketeer
 
carmelhp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Carmel, IN
Posts: 358

Quote:
Originally Posted by aaarcher86 View Post

People seem to think that Free Dining caused Disney to lower their food quality and offer bland dishes.

It couldn't have anything to do with people complaining about anything that has a unique taste, wanting the same chicken nuggets and burgers as kid options, or having so many allergies, eating twice the normal sized servings, and special dietary requests that it isn't worth creating unique dishes anymore.

It honestly only takes a quick look at some of the threads wanting unique dishes and better options for kids, and then peek into the BOG thread to see people complaining about the exact thing they asked for.
I just don't think people would like "unique dishes" better if they were paying for them separate from their vacation package. "Free dining" does just what its meant to do by Disney management, fill the resorts, fill the restaurants, and relieve them of having to satisfy the customer. I do agree that most people do not like flavorful food, people love the blandness at Biergarten, for example, but to blame people's tastes or Disney's reactions to it on a promotion are simply ridiculous. I don't think empty restaurants would impel TDO to offer less of what people like.
__________________
POP 12/11-12/15/2012
RPR 12/15-12/18/2012
POR 9/12-10/1/2013
RPR 12/3-12/12/2014
MVMCP 2012 & 2014
MNSSHP 2013
carmelhp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2014, 10:41 AM   #115
disneynutz


Earning My Ears One At A Time
 
disneynutz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: North Texas
Posts: 18,737

"Free Dining" caused the restaurants to focus on cost savings and turning over tables as fast as they can. That reduced the quality of the food and the dining experience. Offering different menus for free dining and other times would be a real challenge to administer.

Bill
__________________

disneynutz is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2014, 11:13 AM   #116
carmelhp
Mouseketeer
 
carmelhp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Carmel, IN
Posts: 358

Quote:
Originally Posted by disneynutz View Post
"Free Dining" caused the restaurants to focus on cost savings and turning over tables as fast as they can. That reduced the quality of the food and the dining experience. Offering different menus for free dining and other times would be a real challenge to administer.

Bill
See, this argument doesn't hold up, empty or half filled restaurants aren't going to make the Disney organization focus less on cost savings when they are generating less cash from restaurants. "Free dining" brings in cash that they otherwise would not get. If they're focusing on cost savings when getting that revenue, they're certainly not going to ease up if the "free dining" revenue stopped. I don't get the idea that "free dining" represents a cost to TDO, they're offering it to bring in revenue that otherwise would have gone elsewhere. If they're misallocating that revenue then that's a management fault, not a customer fault.
__________________
POP 12/11-12/15/2012
RPR 12/15-12/18/2012
POR 9/12-10/1/2013
RPR 12/3-12/12/2014
MVMCP 2012 & 2014
MNSSHP 2013
carmelhp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2014, 12:01 PM   #117
disneynutz


Earning My Ears One At A Time
 
disneynutz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: North Texas
Posts: 18,737

Quote:
Originally Posted by carmelhp View Post
See, this argument doesn't hold up, empty or half filled restaurants aren't going to make the Disney organization focus less on cost savings when they are generating less cash from restaurants. "Free dining" brings in cash that they otherwise would not get. If they're focusing on cost savings when getting that revenue, they're certainly not going to ease up if the "free dining" revenue stopped. I don't get the idea that "free dining" represents a cost to TDO, they're offering it to bring in revenue that otherwise would have gone elsewhere. If they're misallocating that revenue then that's a management fault, not a customer fault.
This is the way that I see it. Disney wanted to increase profits and they have rooms that are not being occupied. They know that people love to eat and they know that they like the word free.

They raise the room price and include "free" food. Modify the menus to reduce their food costs, modify the free rules each year, and limit the number of rooms offered. They fill the rooms, increase attendance, and make more money.

Bill
__________________

disneynutz is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2014, 12:01 PM   #118
aaarcher86
DIS Veteran
 
aaarcher86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 8,043

Quote:
Originally Posted by disneynutz View Post
"Free Dining" caused the restaurants to focus on cost savings and turning over tables as fast as they can. That reduced the quality of the food and the dining experience. Offering different menus for free dining and other times would be a real challenge to administer. Bill
Isn't that kind of the goal for every restaurant? Low cost/fast turn around.
__________________
aaarcher86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2014, 12:05 PM   #119
grumpy in pa
Earning My Ears
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 13

Went to Cape May on Sunday there were crab legs on the buffet and plenty of them
grumpy in pa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2014, 12:11 PM   #120
disneynutz


Earning My Ears One At A Time
 
disneynutz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: North Texas
Posts: 18,737

Quote:
Originally Posted by aaarcher86 View Post
Isn't that kind of the goal for every restaurant? Low cost/fast turn around.
It is but to offset the "free" dining they had to cut more than normal. IMO they realized that they could add a smear of colored sauce on the plate, reduce the portion size, add some fancy words to the description and charge more.

The dining experience at Disney was different years ago, larger portions, more relaxed feel, not as much noise.

Now they design the space to increase the noise and the seats to be less comfortable.

Bill
__________________

disneynutz is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

facebooktwitterpinterestgoogle plusyoutubeDIS Updates
GET OUR DIS UPDATES DELIVERED BY EMAIL



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:04 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Copyright © 1997-2014, Werner Technologies, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

You Rated this Thread: