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Old 06-12-2014, 05:49 PM   #1
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How many points should I buy?

We are thinking of buying into DVC via resale. I like the look of BWV at the moment.

As we are from the UK, we would plan to travel to WDW every other year, staying for around 14 nights each time. I am happy with a Studio at this point. I would try to stay at "lower point" times like October.

I would mix BWV (where I would be happy to stay in a Standard room sometimes, if available) with other WDW DVC resorts, including possible split stays.

Question is, how many points should I be looking to buy?

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Old 06-12-2014, 05:57 PM   #2
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You need to buy as many as you need. Take a look at the point charts for the dates that you will usually vacation for the different resorts. Since you will be using your points every 2 years, you can buy only half of the number of points.

The problem is that you don't know what resorts you like or what size room. You may think that a value studio seems like the right fit but I have a feeling that you will want a larger room in a few years.

You can always buy small and add another contract later.

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Old 06-12-2014, 06:02 PM   #3
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You need to buy as many as you need. Take a look at the point charts for the dates that you will usually vacation for the different resorts. Since you will be using your points every 2 yours, you can buy only half of the number of points.

The problem is that you don't know what resorts you like or what size room. You may think that a value studio seems like the right fit but I have a feeling that you will want a larger room in a few years.

You can always buy small and add another contract later.

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Thanks. I have edited to say that I am happy with a Studio at this point, also that I will generally stay in lower point times like October. Looking at the point chart, I was thinking that 100-120 point contract would do it, although I notice that contracts at that size are around $10 per point more than contracts of 150 points.
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Thanks. I have edited to say that I am happy with a Studio at this point, also that I will generally stay in lower point times like October. Looking at the point chart, I was thinking that 100-120 point contract would do it, although I notice that contracts at that size are around $10 per point more than contracts of 150 points.
Smaller contracts tend to sell at a higher price. When we buy direct we always purchase 50 point contracts for possible sale later.

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Old 06-12-2014, 06:16 PM   #5
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Smaller contracts tend to sell at a higher price. When we buy direct we always purchase 50 point contracts for possible sale later.

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So, do you feel that 100 points would be enough at this stage?
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Old 06-12-2014, 06:20 PM   #6
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Thanks. I have edited to say that I am happy with a Studio at this point, also that I will generally stay in lower point times like October. Looking at the point chart, I was thinking that 100-120 point contract would do it, although I notice that contracts at that size are around $10 per point more than contracts of 150 points.
I don't think you gave your family size, but 14 days in a studio is a long time in what is pretty much a hotel room.

You might quickly find what many others here have - one bedrooms have the allure of the extra space along with a full kitchen. We have replace many meals in restaurants with easily prepared breakfasts and dinners made in our room. Saves money, saves the waist line, and gives a chance to unwind and relax.
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Old 06-12-2014, 06:28 PM   #7
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Check the point charts but...

Looking at the month of October it is "Choice Season" and the studio prices are:
Standard view - 78 points/week (or 156 weeks for 2 weeks)
Preferred View - 107 points/week (or 214 points for 2 weeks)

You would need 78+ points to stay 2 weeks every 2 years with Standard view or 107+ points to stay 2 weeks every 2 years with preferred view.

You will get different results at different resorts and potentially a slight tweak even just at the BW in other years. However, your 100 points is in the ballpark.
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Looking at the month of October it is "Choice Season" and the studio prices are:
Standard view - 78 points/week (or 156 weeks for 2 weeks)
Preferred View - 107 points/week (or 214 points for 2 weeks)

You would need 78+ points to stay 2 weeks every 2 years with Standard view or 107+ points to stay 2 weeks every 2 years with preferred view.

You will get different results at different resorts and potentially a slight tweak even just at the BW in other years. However, your 100 points is in the ballpark.
That's what I was thinking. Plus, I imagine that 100 points is quite a common number at resale(?) given that it is a nice round number?
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Old 06-12-2014, 09:31 PM   #9
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Keep in mind that October is the Food & Wine Festival and the standard studio can book quickly at the 11 month mark for BVW. If this is your preferred resort you may want to consider buying there especially if you can plan 7 - 11 month in advance.

When booking reservation you are only allowed to book seven days at a time. That means you will be booking you first seven day and will have to wait a week to book the last seven days. Did you consider looking at the number of points you might need if week two was at a different resort?

I like your idea of staying a week at two different resorts. I already typical do split stays on week long trips. It feels like two different vacation in one since each DVC has a different atmosphere.

If you find you have bought to few you could add on later with a smaller contract or for that matter a larger contract. Start with the size and cost you are comfortable with.
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We are thinking of buying into DVC via resale. I like the look of BWV at the moment.

As we are from the UK, we would plan to travel to WDW every other year, staying for around 14 nights each time. I am happy with a Studio at this point. I would try to stay at "lower point" times like October.

I would mix BWV (where I would be happy to stay in a Standard room sometimes, if available) with other WDW DVC resorts, including possible split stays.

Question is, how many points should I be looking to buy?

Thanks
Assuming DVC makes sense for you, the likely number of points that would accomplish your plans is around 110-120 per year banked to use every 2 years. Long term you'll likely need more so I'd look at around 150-170 to give you access to more and better priced contracts and to give you options going forward for larger rooms or more expensive resorts at times. If DVC only makes sense at BWV standard, OKW or AKV value; one likely shouldn't buy in for this this applies to (doesn't seem to for you).
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also, keep in mind that except for OKW, all other DVC studios have a Queen bed and a double pullout sofa, not 2 beds.
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You see a fair number of 100 point contracts

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That's what I was thinking. Plus, I imagine that 100 points is quite a common number at resale(?) given that it is a nice round number?
Yea, you see a decent number of resale 100 point contracts. It seems 150 is the most common but you see 100's too.

You can also double up on 50's. You'll pay more but will also have much better luck selling if you need or want to some day.
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Yea, you see a decent number of resale 100 point contracts. It seems 150 is the most common but you see 100's too.

You can also double up on 50's. You'll pay more but will also have much better luck selling if you need or want to some day.
Remember that resale contracts were originally sold with the number of points that met Disney's minimum at the time. Sometimes you had to buy 160 minimum, other times it was 200. Sometimes they let you buy 4- 50 pointers to meet the minimum, other times they wouldn't.

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Remember that resale contracts were originally sold with the number of points that met Disney's minimum at the time. Sometimes you had to buy 160 minimum, other times it was 200. Sometimes they let you buy 4- 50 pointers to meet the minimum, other times they wouldn't.

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Bill, IIRC historically it was originally 210 I believe, then 190, then 150 then back to 160. They've had specials at 100 & even at 50. I don't recall a post where people were not able to break it down to smaller groups if they asked but maybe I missed it or simply having a senior moment. I know it's only been a somewhat more common approach more recently, say the last 10 years or so. Another size that pops out is 120 (SSR only)due to the incentives at SSR early on for developer points. Often the break point for incentives was 100, AKV that was the case. I'm sure others can add info about other incentives and resorts as I haven't followed that as closely since AKV.
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When booking reservation you are only allowed to book seven days at a time. That means you will be booking you first seven day and will have to wait a week to book the last seven days. Did you consider looking at the number of points you might need if week two was at a different resort?
But if it is your home resort, at 11 months, just call 6 days after you made the original reservation and you are guaranteed to extend the stay another 6 days. One more call anytime during the next week will get you the 14th night - guaranteed. Nobody can reserve the room out from under you until 11 months from your checkout date. This is why "walking a reservation" is guaranteed to work at the 11 month mark. (except for unusual circumstances, such as planned renovation that pulls your reserved room from the available inventory.)
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