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Old 03-08-2014, 10:13 PM   #256
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How did you get to the parks? Cars cause health issues, as well as air planes, trains etc.
The difference is that you can't ride a cigarette to the park.

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The smell of diesel fuel bothers me, the smell of burning oil because they didn't change before the Disney vacay. I am not creating a section about banning all those disturbing smells.
You could. I mean, it's not a very compelling argument, but no one is stopping you. Although, I would be on board with getting rid of the Tomorrowland Speedway. Those carts stink up the joint something fierce.

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You may not like smokers but you don't have to disrespect us. Especially when we follow the rules and locations that Disney has set up.
That's why we want Disney to change the rules. It's not about respect. Do what you want; I just don't want to smell it.
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It's 2014... I can't believe people still smoke.
It's 2014... I can't believe people are still so judgmental.

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In Indiana, you can't even smoke within 8 ft of a business's entrance!
There isn't a DSA within eight feet of the entrance at Walt Disney World. Based on its location in Central Florida, it's not subject to Indiana laws.

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That's why we want Disney to change the rules. It's not about respect. Do what you want; I just don't want to smell it.

If you want Disney to change the rules, tell Disney. And get a park map every day will show you the few DSAs in each park. eta: To make it simple to avoid those few areas.
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Old 03-09-2014, 08:07 AM   #258
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One of the most controversial, forbidden, and hottest topics on the DISboards. Posted in the rumors section not as a rumor but purely as supposition and in the interest of starting a fight. There was no "rumor" here. Nothing. It wasn't even disguised as a lie about a rumor.

What's most amazing to me is that this thread has been allowed to continue when most smoking threads are quickly squashed, at least in the sections I frequent (DVC). Actually, I thought they were forbidden throughout the entire board but I'm obviously mistaken.

Maybe the OP could just rally for president of P&R so they could do what they want to do, and completely destroy WDW all in one sweeping blow.

Anybody else notice this is a brand new user? I'd bet a thousand bucks they post under another alias also. Also against DIS rules. This reeks of "troll." I can't believe this hasn't been brought up but maybe it has. I won't waste my time reading the entire 18 pages of mostly garbage.
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Old 03-09-2014, 08:14 AM   #259
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Not even close to the same issue. None of those things affect my children's health like smoking does. Smoking is a health hazard to everyone around the smoker.

All of the other things are just annoyances, unless the drunk gets behind the wheel of a car
Nope, a HS student in PA recently had an allergic reaction to Axe Body Spray that is "potentially life threatening". So apparently the cologne comment was not that far off the mark. I would assume that you now agree that all colognes/perfumes should be totally banned?
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If you want Disney to change the rules, tell Disney. And get a park map every day will show you the few DSAs in each park. eta: To make it simple to avoid those few areas.
Sure, but it's not always possible to avoid, like Aloha Isle.
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Sure, but it's not always possible to avoid, like Aloha Isle.
To be technical, you can avoid it. But you can't if you want a dole-whip.
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Old 03-09-2014, 09:25 AM   #262
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I would be on board with getting rid of the Tomorrowland Speedway. Those carts stink up the joint something fierce.


I've been in this camp for a long time-- I can't believe they still run those awful things-- My kids call the ride "stinky cars"
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Nope, a HS student in PA recently had an allergic reaction to Axe Body Spray that is "potentially life threatening". So apparently the cologne comment was not that far off the mark. I would assume that you now agree that all colognes/perfumes should be totally banned?
No, I have already addressed the fact that there is NO WAY to ban ALL allergens. That is something that those individuals need to deal with. As a person with a mild stone fruit allergy, I need to be aware of what I am eating at all times. It is unfortunate, but part of life.
Second hand smoke, however, affects everyone and should therefore be treated differently.
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Second hand smoke in enclosed areas. The American Cancer Society doesn't warn against brief outdoor encounters in these situation.
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No, I have already addressed the fact that there is NO WAY to ban ALL allergens. That is something that those individuals need to deal with.
Actually you are wrong... it just requires a desire to implement the change and then rules and regulations and maybe DAAs... Designated Allergen Areas to help enforce it and allow those who want to continue to use allergen to do so without impacting other park goers.

For example what are some of the biggest allergens that are can be life threatening: milk, nuts, fragrance, shellfish or fish. Easy peasy to deal with...

A simple outright ban against the entry of fragrance, nuts, milk, seafood or shellfish. Since everyone has to go through the turnstiles it would not be hard to enforce.

And yes it HAS been done...

Many workplaces already have rules against fragrance.

Public schools are often totally nut free or have designated allergy areas like specific tables for those who eat foods like peanut butter.

I have as much right to smoke as someone else has to eat peanuts and wear fragrance... neither is actually a right... but a privilege granted by a business... that can be removed if the business finds it in their best interests.

And for the record... I am not a smoker.
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No, I have already addressed the fact that there is NO WAY to ban ALL allergens. That is something that those individuals need to deal with.
I bet 20+ or so years ago... people said the same thing about limiting/banning smoking... never say never...
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To be technical, you can avoid it. But you can't if you want a dole-whip.
So, either way, someone is going to be inconvenienced. The difference is that me standing in line to get a Dole Whip isn't going to cause someone else to have an allergic reaction, or contribute to their inhalation of a carcinogen.
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277 posts later we are still beating the same dead horse. We are not going to change someones view point on this and we for sure cant change Disneys policy on this.. Cant we just agree to disagree. Smokers stay in your corners of the park so you dont bother non smokers. Non smokers walk around those corners if you dont like or dont want to be near the smoke.
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So, either way, someone is going to be inconvenienced. The difference is that me standing in line to get a Dole Whip isn't going to cause someone else to have an allergic reaction, or contribute to their inhalation of a carcinogen.
Maybe they should move the dole whip stand or get rid of it they are gross anyways.
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I do smoke and I have no problem going long periods without smoking. All day with the kids in MK may have me wanting to pull my hair out, but that is my problem. My dh would just refuse to go anymore. However, neither one of us would have a problem walking out of the way to a smoking area. The one in AK Dinoland is great to me, out of the way. I don't like to be out in the open smoking with a lot of non-smokers around. We avoid those smoking areas, like the one by the Dole Whips. But I can't see them banning it all together.
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