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Old 02-18-2014, 12:00 AM   #61
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Man, why don't I ever get these surveys?! I don't get surveys and I don't get codes. Disney must hate me.

Anyway. We have sailed on DCL three times before we had kids (one on our honeymoon) and twice with kids. I am 100% against the change for Palo and Remy. We like the adult atmosphere, and while I am sure that your snowflake is perfectly behaved, it doesn't mean that the snowflakes next to you will be as good. I know my 11 year old daughter could happily sit through the meal, and enjoy it, but I also love that my husband and I can get dressed up and have a nice meal together.

Also against lowering the dress code. At least no jeans! Then again, we like dressing up!

As far as picking dining rotations, I don't stress about that at all. I'm not sure we'd pick one early. On our two cruises with kids, we have always gotten a late Palo reservation and just gone to early dinner with the kiddies, then snack on something we think might be good. Afterward, they go to their activities, and we go to dinner.
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Old 02-18-2014, 01:40 AM   #62
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But some places have gone to a policy of NO Children and they are not bars. You are talking Sushi, Italian, and Steak places.

And to the Poster who would not mind a mature teen sitting with parents, but not a table full of teens. If DCL lowers the age, the only way to limit it would be to say there has to be an adult make the ressie but what hapens if the adult does not show?? Really, there is no way to avoid this.

My 2cents: Palo/Remy should be adult only. The adult only places should be adult only places. Don't lower the ages. Don't change the dress code. Sometimes you need to dress up and it is good for you. If you don't like to dress up then don't eat there.

If you don't dress up, it won't effect my dinner or expierance, but I will be disappointed.


Some perspective for you:
Every year USMC celebrates it's bday. Well, for a month they celebrate. It is a formal occasion. Dress Blues Formal Gowns, all the finery you can see and find. It is an hour ceremony, followed by 4-5 course meal, and all the other fine birthday party traditions. It used to be just adults. But now children/teens are coming. The kiddos are dressed in "formals". But they can't sit through the dinner and ceremony. They get bored and restless. They are a distraction.

My kiddos stay home. Have their pizza and soda and dessert. They are much happier. And so are we.
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Old 02-18-2014, 01:56 AM   #63
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Put me squarely in the don't lower the age for Palo/Remy category. In our family it's something the kids are looking forward to when they are 18--a consolation prize if you will for not being able to go to the kids clubs anymore. When you age out of the Vibe you age in to the adult activities--including the special restaurants. It doesn't make much sense to me that Disney has even opened up the issue. It's not like it's an easy reservation to get!
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Old 02-18-2014, 02:49 AM   #64
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Wow this has really got people stirred up. Do remember this is only a survey and that all it shows is that Disney are opening up a few lines of interest. They just want to see what people think and maybe discount things straight away. No one is saying these things are going to happen any time soon.
Also with regards to lowering the age limit I'm sure it mentioned that it was 16 when accompanied by adults/parents, so there would not be problems with groups of 16-18 year olds going along together, they wouldn't be allowed. I don't know why they would want to, at 16 I couldn't think of anything worse than going to a stuffy restaurant.
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I have not received the survey nor seen it's full text. I am hoping with the "Choose Your Own Rotation" option, they would simply mean from the currently available rotations. Everyone making their own rotation willy-nilly would nix having your servers follow you every night, which is a really cool thing DCL does. You would wind up with a bunch of different servers, which could require a major shift in how DCL handles tips as they would have to be divided between multiple people.
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Old 02-18-2014, 07:52 AM   #66
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Man, why don't I ever get these surveys?! I don't get surveys and I don't get codes. Disney must hate me. Anyway. We have sailed on DCL three times before we had kids (one on our honeymoon) and twice with kids. I am 100% against the change for Palo and Remy. We like the adult atmosphere, and while I am sure that your snowflake is perfectly behaved, it doesn't mean that the snowflakes next to you will be as good. I know my 11 year old daughter could happily sit through the meal, and enjoy it, but I also love that my husband and I can get dressed up and have a nice meal together. Also against lowering the dress code. At least no jeans! Then again, we like dressing up! As far as picking dining rotations, I don't stress about that at all. I'm not sure we'd pick one early. On our two cruises with kids, we have always gotten a late Palo reservation and just gone to early dinner with the kiddies, then snack on something we think might be good. Afterward, they go to their activities, and we go to dinner.
Lol re your snowflake. Sorry but that really made me laugh :-)
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Old 02-18-2014, 09:00 AM   #67
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I am going to chime in here. This may seem harsh but I don't believe in sugar coating things. I hope beyond belief DCL does not lower the age limit for Palo. If they do this I fear the next step will be lowering the age limit for the cove then the clubs. Part of the reason I choose to cruise DCL is the adult only activities. Yes I fully understand there are plenty of children/teens on DCL. They have their areas. I don't want to lose my area. I am sorry for those who feel they have the perfect 16 or 17 year old, I am sure you do, but I want my adult only area to remain just that. Sorry about the rant.

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I have not received the survey nor seen it's full text. I am hoping with the "Choose Your Own Rotation" option, they would simply mean from the currently available rotations. Everyone making their own rotation willy-nilly would nix having your servers follow you every night, which is a really cool thing DCL does. You would wind up with a bunch of different servers, which could require a major shift in how DCL handles tips as they would have to be divided between multiple people.
I think they mean the current available rotations.
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:21 AM   #69
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I can see it now...


"New to Disney Cruise Line: Dining Plus! Looking to pick which restaurants you get to eat at every night? Well now you can! For a small nominal fee of $25 per person per night you have the freedom to choose! Want to eat in the Enchanted Garden every single night? Why the hell not! Want to bring the kids to Palo or Remy? (additional fees still apply) They're more than welcome! How about a special romantic dinner with you and your special someone in an adults only environment? Absolutely! There will be a designated 1 hour period between 5 and 6 where adults may dine alone, are quickly rushed through their meal (no bread service, no sharing of additional entrees) and told to leave immediately to welcome in more mone...er, families to experience these expensi...er, unique dining venues!"
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Wow this has really got people stirred up. Do remember this is only a survey and that all it shows is that Disney are opening up a few lines of interest.
Stirred up is putting it mildly, foaming at the mouth is more accurate in many cases. It really makes me wonder why people are so upset about it. It's just a question. They're doing a survey and haven't changed a thing.

If people are that uptight about just the idea of a few kids in the Disney restaurant, I can't imagine why they'd want to vacation where there are so many kids to begin with. It certainly makes me wonder If the coat check will be full of a bunch of spotted fur coats.
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If teens can dine in Palo does that mean I can go play in Vibe?
Actually, you CAN, during open house hours Of course if your teen wants to be within a deck's distance of you, then I guess it's ok...
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Lol re your snowflake. Sorry but that really made me laugh :-)
Sometimes I refer to my kids as my special snowflakes. My five year old thinks it is funny, but it makes my 11 year old VERY mad, because she knows that the term, even though I am using it as a term of endearment, is often used negatively.
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i am going to chime in here. This may seem harsh but i don't believe in sugar coating things. I hope beyond belief dcl does not lower the age limit for palo. If they do this i fear the next step will be lowering the age limit for the cove then the clubs. Part of the reason i choose to cruise dcl is the adult only activities. Yes i fully understand there are plenty of children/teens on dcl. They have their areas. I don't want to lose my area. I am sorry for those who feel they have the perfect 16 or 17 year old, i am sure you do, but i want my adult only area to remain just that. Sorry about the rant.

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Put me squarely in the don't lower the age for Palo/Remy category. In our family it's something the kids are looking forward to when they are 18--a consolation prize if you will for not being able to go to the kids clubs anymore. When you age out of the Vibe you age in to the adult activities--including the special restaurants. It doesn't make much sense to me that Disney has even opened up the issue. It's not like it's an easy reservation to get!
The gap they have is 18-20. Those people cannot go to the kids clubs, or the adult bars.
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The gap they have is 18-20. Those people cannot go to the kids clubs, or the adult bars.
I read on the DCL website that 18yr olds can go to the "adult-only" bars/clubs...just not drink alcohol. For example (from the DCL website):

Europa, located on Deck 4, Aft of the Disney Fantasy, is a nighttime entertainment district exclusively for Guests ages 18 and older. Europa is home to a variety of sophisticated lounges and nightclubs, including:
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•O'Gills Pub
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