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 01-26-2014, 12:10 PM #1 gmi3804 DIS Veteran     Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 792 Crowds in Mid-May My park days at TDL/TDS are 12-14 May. According to the crowd chart below, those are days with light crowds (Green, Blue, Blue). My next question, from the same website. How do I read this chart? __________________ Stupid Judy.
 01-26-2014, 12:52 PM #2 Ebiten TDR Fan     Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 77 Where did you get this chart from? Well, if I'm reading this right, and I like to think I am, this is probably what it means. SB Max means how long the standby wait is max during that time period; for example, the Pooh ride is a 60-90 minute wait time for standby at any time during the day, max. Continuing with the Pooh ride, if you get a fastpass for it at 9 am (left most column) then you can expect a return time at 10 am. If you get a fastpass for it at 10 am then expect a return time of 3 pm (15:00). If you get a fastpass 11 am then expect a return time of 6 pm (18:00) and so on and so forth. As you can see, there is nothing across getting a fastpass at 1 pm (13:00) because it most likely ran out by that time. These are all estimates but you can still use it.
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01-26-2014, 02:34 PM   #3
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 Originally Posted by Ebiten Where did you get this chart from? Well, if I'm reading this right, and I like to think I am, this is probably what it means. SB Max means how long the standby wait is max during that time period; for example, the Pooh ride is a 60-90 minute wait time for standby at any time during the day, max. Continuing with the Pooh ride, if you get a fastpass for it at 9 am (left most column) then you can expect a return time at 10 am. If you get a fastpass for it at 10 am then expect a return time of 3 pm (15:00). If you get a fastpass 11 am then expect a return time of 6 pm (18:00) and so on and so forth. As you can see, there is nothing across getting a fastpass at 1 pm (13:00) because it most likely ran out by that time. These are all estimates but you can still use it.
Thanks.

I got the chart from the TDL crowd estimator website. This is the "translation" using Google Chrome.

http://www15.plala.or.jp/gcap/disney/

So are FP rules the same as WDW/DLR legacy Fps, i.e., one FP at a time until the return time opens or two hours passes, whichever happens first?
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01-26-2014, 11:20 PM   #4
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 Originally Posted by gmi3804 So are FP rules the same as WDW/DLR legacy Fps, i.e., one FP at a time until the return time opens or two hours passes, whichever happens first?
Yep, same rules and assuming they are available when you are going depending on the season. Though I would hit up the more popular rides FP first in case they run out later in the day. For TDS my usual is Toy Story first due to popularity (followed by walking to 20,000 Leagues as it's easily a walk on ride), then Journey, Indiana, ToT. Afterward I just get FP for whatever I feel like riding again. Though for Toy Story you might want to go in the standby line at least once at the beginning of the park when lines are less as the standby line makes you walk through what I can only say is "jaw-dropping" when I first saw it.

TDR it would be BTMR (followed by a walk to Pooh), Haunted Mansion, Monster, and more BTMR. I really like BTMR and not so much other FP rides at TDR so I do standby for them if I pass by and see the wait time isn't too long.

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 Originally Posted by gmi3804 My park days at TDL/TDS are 12-14 May. According to the crowd chart below, those are days with light crowds (Green, Blue, Blue). My next question, from the same website. How do I read this chart?
For the chart it's
Monsters Inc, Pooh, Splash, Buzz, Big Thunder, Space, Haunted Mansion

The times represent what time your FP will likely be for at different points during the day and when FP is likely to end for each attraction.
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 01-27-2014, 10:26 PM #6 voleball Mouseketeer   Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 198 I'll be there May 13 ~ 15! May see you around!
 01-28-2014, 12:23 AM #7 planningjollyholiday DIS Veteran     Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: british columbia Posts: 672 Hooray, my family and I will be there as well from May 12-16. We went around this time 5 years ago and one of the days it drizzled a bit causing It to be pretty quiet, so I'm hoping it will be the same this year. I'm a little sad that astro blasters will be down, but I guess we can always ride it in California. If you see us say hi, I'm sure we will be the only blonde haired people in the park
 01-29-2014, 09:53 AM #8 gmi3804 DIS Veteran     Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 792 Is it safe to assume that the first hour or two in each park will have relatively light crowds (especially in mid-May, a "slow" time) where you can hit some headliners at rope drop with little to no wait? I know TSMM will fill up quickly because it's a slow-loader and extremely popular, but what about fast loaders like BTMM and Splash? How quickly do the TDS-only rides load? 20,000, Journey, etc? Also, if I'm reading those charts correctly, after the first FP return window opens, every FP after that will give me a two-hour return window, right? __________________ Stupid Judy. Last edited by gmi3804; 01-29-2014 at 10:25 AM.
01-30-2014, 02:56 AM   #9
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 Originally Posted by gmi3804 Is it safe to assume that the first hour or two in each park will have relatively light crowds (especially in mid-May, a "slow" time) where you can hit some headliners at rope drop with little to no wait? I know TSMM will fill up quickly because it's a slow-loader and extremely popular, but what about fast loaders like BTMM and Splash? How quickly do the TDS-only rides load? 20,000, Journey, etc? Also, if I'm reading those charts correctly, after the first FP return window opens, every FP after that will give me a two-hour return window, right?
It's hard to assume but as it is slow season you can expect being able to walk around freely without bumping into anyone and rides won't have as much of a wait time. Though you would be able to hit up the more popular rides pretty quickly, especially if they are near each other and you aren't traveling from one side to the other. BTMM and Splash should load pretty fast in the beginning since most might hit up Monsters Inc. Pooh is fast at rope drop but gets busier during the day. If you're riding Space, bring the music along that they play at Disneyland! They don't play it in TDR so it lowers the "quality" of it in my opinion. Everything else should be easy (though Star Tours has its ups and downs).

20,000 is super fast at rope drop and Journey shouldn't have that long a wait. I would hit up the Gondola's before the water shows start as I usually forget about it then it's too late to ride. Toy Story is slow as you know since everyone goes there first. Storm rider should be a breeze to get on since it's a high capacity crowd ride and you are going during slow season. Most everything else shouldn't be much of a line during the first couple hours.

 01-30-2014, 11:10 AM #10 gmi3804 DIS Veteran     Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 792 Excellent info, Ebiten. Is the above chart a good barometer to figure out order to pull FPs? Clearly, the one with the one hour retune time should be first? Then the most popular ones after that? Or not? __________________ Stupid Judy.
 01-30-2014, 10:06 PM #11 TipsyTraveler Mouseketeer     Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Maryland Posts: 417 Hi everyone! I don't have anything helpful to add, just wanted to say I'll be there with you guys May 11 - 16.
 01-31-2014, 03:18 AM #12 voleball Mouseketeer   Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 198 I think that list is a good indicator of FP priorities. Not sure if you've seen it, but on the same website, they provide the past attendence/wait times for the last few years. http://www15.plala.or.jp/gcap/disney/jam.htm If you go down the page a bit, it shows the real wait time at 3:30pm for each day of that month. That'll give you the idea which ones are popular so you should hit them first thing in the morning, and which ones are anytime filler. I'm not familar with DL, but I've been to WDW a few times. First 2 hours of Magic Kingdom is diffinitely different from TDL. Even the busiest time of the year, MK is pretty easy to tour in the first couple of hours, but TDL is not that easy. I think it won't be as easy but you'll probably do fine because Mid May is a slower season. The key difference between them is most people in TDL know how to take advantage of FPs and early hours. Well, you mentioned that you will be staying at a Disney hotel, so the 15 minute early entry to the both parks will help you quite a bit for touring. Last edited by voleball; 01-31-2014 at 03:29 AM.
 01-31-2014, 03:31 AM #13 voleball Mouseketeer   Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 198 Wow, it looks like the mid May is a popular season.
02-01-2014, 12:48 PM   #14
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 Originally Posted by voleball I think that list is a good indicator of FP priorities. Not sure if you've seen it, but on the same website, they provide the past attendence/wait times for the last few years. http://www15.plala.or.jp/gcap/disney/jam.htm If you go down the page a bit, it shows the real wait time at 3:30pm for each day of that month. That'll give you the idea which ones are popular so you should hit them first thing in the morning, and which ones are anytime filler. I'm not familar with DL, but I've been to WDW a few times. First 2 hours of Magic Kingdom is diffinitely different from TDL. Even the busiest time of the year, MK is pretty easy to tour in the first couple of hours, but TDL is not that easy. I think it won't be as easy but you'll probably do fine because Mid May is a slower season. The key difference between them is most people in TDL know how to take advantage of FPs and early hours. Well, you mentioned that you will be staying at a Disney hotel, so the 15 minute early entry to the both parks will help you quite a bit for touring.
Love the historical data, but not sure how to interpret them. I mean I can see that there are wait times, but I can't interpret any of the attraction names, even after English translation.

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02-01-2014, 02:18 PM   #15
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 Originally Posted by gmi3804 Love the historical data, but not sure how to interpret them. I mean I can see that there are wait times, but I can't interpret any of the attraction names, even after English translation. Signed, The Ugly American
Google translate sort of messes up the name of the rides at the top of the chart so you will have to hover your mouse over the rides names to see what it's actually called (with the actual name or close to it). I'm using Chrome to do this. For example, after the weather and temperature in the 2nd and 3rd column is the Omnibus in the 4th column followed by Pirates of the Caribbean in the 5th column.

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