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Old 01-22-2014, 09:39 PM   #1
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What Will MK Tiered FP+ Choices Be?

Since it looks like the tiering system present now at HS and Epcot will be coming to the MK, how do you think the rides and shows will be divided up? What rides will show up in tier 1,2 and 3? And how many more headliners will we have to make choices between (like between Soarin and TT at EP)? For example, will we need to choose between the "mountains"?
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Old 01-22-2014, 09:54 PM   #2
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Where is your source for tiering coming to MK?
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Old 01-23-2014, 01:01 AM   #3
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MK does not need tiering due to the number of attractions available and the audience they cater to. I, as an adult visitor, would never FP+ most of the fantasyland attractions. I may (or may not) choose to FP+ the "mountains". Due to low ride capacity and other factors, my FP+ choices will be quite different from parents with younger children. I don't see why WDW would need to change the FP+ numbers. They can work with what they have.
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Old 01-23-2014, 01:21 AM   #4
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The ones that ran out of legacy fast passes earliest would be most prone to this, but it doesn't seem as needed.

but if it happened, the mountain rides, Bell and Peter Pan (which I just don't understand) would most likely be in the top tier.
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Old 01-23-2014, 05:42 AM   #5
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MK does not need tiering due to the number of attractions available and the audience they cater to. I, as an adult visitor, would never FP+ most of the fantasyland attractions. I may (or may not) choose to FP+ the "mountains". Due to low ride capacity and other factors, my FP+ choices will be quite different from parents with younger children. I don't see why WDW would need to change the FP+ numbers. They can work with what they have.
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The ones that ran out of legacy fast passes earliest would be most prone to this, but it doesn't seem as needed.

but if it happened, the mountain rides, Bell and Peter Pan (which I just don't understand) would most likely be in the top tier.
I think these responses don't take into account what I assume to be the reason for the original question:
7 Dwarfs Mine Train.
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Old 01-23-2014, 09:17 AM   #6
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Yeap I think MK will end up with tiering purely because of the Mine Train.

They will find 2-5 other attractions to throw in Tier 1 along with the Mine Train, just because every guest will want it and they simply won't have enough during a business day to give everyone a Mine Train FP.

My guess is tier 1 will be a mix of mountains, Enchanted Tales with Belle, and Peter Pan or somesuch.
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Old 01-23-2014, 09:23 AM   #7
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Well if the rumor about selling extra FP slots pans out, tiering in the MK would certainly allow them to have plenty of left-overs to sell.

Honestly, without tiering, I probably wouldn't buy one. With tiering, I probably would. Hmmmm........
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Old 01-23-2014, 09:26 AM   #8
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Tier 1 would be all three Mountains, Peter Pan, Enchanted Tales with Belle and the Mine Train.
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Old 01-23-2014, 09:28 AM   #9
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I don't think that tiering will help with respect the mine train. Everyone will want to ride it at least once, including guests with other favorites in the park. Forcing a guest to choose between the mine train and their other favorite tier 1 ride will not work - they will choose the mine train because they have never riden it before.
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Old 01-23-2014, 09:30 AM   #10
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Here's my guess to their approach. Pick one of each:


Tier 1: 7DMT, ETWB, PP, Space, Wishes

Tier 2: Splash, BTMRR, Parade

Tier 3: POTC, HM, etc.
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Old 01-23-2014, 09:32 AM   #11
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I honestly don't think MK will need tiering, even with mine train open. Whether Disney implements it for other benefits to them (like purchasing attractions) is another question.

MK just has so many options, from rides to very popular meet and greets, that I'm not sure even mine train will create the need for tiering there. A great thing about MK is that if we wanted to we could use all 3 of our FP rides together as a group without having to split up because of height restrictions like we do on every other park. Arguably the biggest draws in MK right now are ETWB and PP, 2 attractions that have the longest waits in the park and no height restrictions.

7DMT will be right up there in popularity I'm sure, but I don't think it's going to be drawing too many additional guests to MK that wouldn't go otherwise. It doesn't have the HP like pull. I can't see waits for it being complete insanity like TSMM except for right when it opens, I think with all the other MK attractions it will just be similar to the top rides there.

Just my opinion of course.
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I don't think that tiering will help with respect the mine train. Everyone will want to ride it at least once, including guests with other favorites in the park. Forcing a guest to choose between the mine train and their other favorite tier 1 ride will not work - they will choose the mine train because they have never riden it before.
I agree it's a given that everyone will choose the Mine Train. For that reason though I think they'll use it as a reason to keep some other high demand attractions available for those who don't log on 60 days in advance and get a spot.

Also, keep in mind many people go to the MK more than one day, so presumably they could choose something different another day (I wouldn't though).
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I think with the Mine Car ride coming you may see tiering happen. I would imagine they would package splash and thunder mt together. Mine car and space together. Ariel philarmagic and wishes together...something like that.
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I think these responses don't take into account what I assume to be the reason for the original question:
7 Dwarfs Mine Train.
Agreed! that's going to be the longest wait since the first months of TSMM -- maybe even longer.

Other than that just the mountains and BOG lunch would be top tier.
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I don't think that tiering will help with respect the mine train. Everyone will want to ride it at least once, including guests with other favorites in the park. Forcing a guest to choose between the mine train and their other favorite tier 1 ride will not work - they will choose the mine train because they have never riden it before.
Most of the guests will be forced to ride Mine Train via the Standby line because there aren't enough fast passes in a 12 hour park day to give one to every guest.

If you even conservatively assume there are 60,000 guests in MK on a day, and 40,000 of those want to ride Mine Train, and the park is open 9am to 9pm, that means Mine Train would need to have a fast pass guest throughput approaching 3,500 guests per hour, not counting any standby riders. (For comparison, BTMRR's total per-hour throughput is estimated at 2,400 riders).

So if they do not "tier" in MK, then all the Mine Train fast passes will be booked 60 days out by resort guests. Late booking resort guests and offsite guests will only get passes if 1) Disney holds passes and releases them in stages or 2) other guests cancel their rides. Otherwise, welcome to the Standby line.

This is why they put in tiering at Epcot - because given the choice, every single guest coming through the doors wanted to book Soarin and Test Track, and there simply is not sufficient capacity for this. So you can only pick one.
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