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Old 12-16-2013, 12:24 PM   #796
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I think they honestly thought they'd be past this point already but couldn't delay until after the holiday.
I agree.

But I also think they are hurrying to see if they can keep FP access for longer than 5 minutes at park opening. Running straight ahead into this also runs straight ahead into ride rationing and turning off double dipping.
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:24 PM   #797
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I think they honestly thought they'd be past this point already but couldn't delay until after the holiday.
I know that they are behind schedule, but at this point they couldn't just wait another 3 weeks?

We're going to create confusion by eliminating the means by which everyone has obtained FP for years, force all off site guests to go to line up at a kiosk to obtain the new version of FP and do it all without advanced warning. Even better, let's do it when crowds are at the highest they get all year!!!

I hope they get a bonus for their genius.
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:26 PM   #798
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For the record, I was kidding. Not being a jerk. I really think we need to see how things shake out before we make dismal predictions, but I do appreciate the fact that people are skeptical of the changes. Change is hard enough, but WDW's roll-out hasn't been super suave. Count me among the (minority) who thinks things will be okay in the long run, though.
I don't think you are in the minority at all. For one thing the DIS represents a very small percentage of the total number of people who visit WDW.

Also many who actually like the changes have voiced their opinion here and simply have gotten tired of implied descriptions such as lazy, uninformed, etc. etc. and moved on.
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:28 PM   #799
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For what it's worth, my friend staying at the Swan made FP reservations this morning for today for TSMM and Star Tours.
You do realize that crowds are at a 1 today (according to touringplans) and that everyone is still not on the system? I would hope under those conditions that FP would still be available.
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:29 PM   #800
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if this is their way to see how full FP+ will work I am glad they are doing it at AK then say MK or even DHS. Maybe they want to see what happens during one of the busiest times of the year at theme park that has the least amount of locations that FP is really a benefit.

I am hoping that the others are not going this route until after the holidays. This is probably a test to see what other glitches may arise before rolling it out to the other theme parks
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:31 PM   #801
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:32 PM   #802
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You do realize that crowds are at a 1 today (according to touringplans) and that everyone is still not on the system? I would hope under those conditions that FP would still be available.
Again, yes, I do realize that. However, people who are insisting that nothing is being held back are probably wrong, given te fact that you can get a same day TSMM FP+ reservation.
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So what's the chance of this spreading to the other theme parks before next Weds?

I'm betting that it spreads to DHS and Epcot in time for the holiday week.
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This was initially my biggest disappointment with Disney, before I got drawn into all the other threads. I get where they're going with the MB's and am actually excited about them. But with no word from Disney on what was happening from day to day or week to week with FP-/FP+, that's just not what I expected from the Disney I know. And to just dump these different restrictions on visitors 3 days before they arrive for vacations or worse, while they're down there just seems wrong to me. It just surprises me that a company who's been the standard for excellent customer service for so long could botch something this badly in terms of public relations.

RP - you absolutely nailed our feelings on this issue. People who have different outlooks on this seem to think that those of us who think that Disney has handled this so poorly seem to think that we are somehow anti-Disney. That is not the case.

Just very disappointed that a company that set so many high bars for so long could now think of nothing but how to get us locked in on OUR vacations to the point that we are scheduling rides 60 days in advance.

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Old 12-16-2013, 12:38 PM   #805
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So what's the chance of this spreading to the other theme parks before next Weds?
Ask again on THURSDAY.

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Old 12-16-2013, 12:41 PM   #806
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Again, yes, I do realize that. However, people who are insisting that nothing is being held back are probably wrong, given te fact that you can get a same day TSMM FP+ reservation.
It's not held back, if there are FP+ appointments available day of it's because there are either low crowds or they moved an allotment of FP- over to FP+.
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We're not going until January (and then staying onsite) so really most of this doesn't concern me directly ....but it's like watching a train wreck ....hard to turn away.

Good luck all in Guest Relations this week and anyone going over the holiday!
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I know that they are behind schedule, but at this point they couldn't just wait another 3 weeks?

We're going to create confusion by eliminating the means by which everyone has obtained FP for years, force all off site guests to go to line up at a kiosk to obtain the new version of FP and do it all without advanced warning. Even better, let's do it when crowds are at the highest they get all year!!!

I hope they get a bonus for their genius.
And what do the guests get for this grand experiment? Oh wait, they get to pay for it!!!
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:47 PM   #809
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We are in the U.S., arriving February 28th, staying in a 2 BR at BLT, booked directly through Disney as a package including tickets and DDP - and no booklet, magnet or flash drive here. I started hearing about all the March-goers getting them and I'm surprised we haven't gotten one. I don't really need it, but still, it's weird. We must not be high priority, lol. I wonder how they decide who to send them to?

BTW, for those with a magnet - is the FP+ day 60 days prior to check in? Can't find that info officially from Disney anywhere. I'm calculating our date to be December 30.
Yes, the date is 60 days prior to the date we arrive.

If we are high priority, it's because they want a lot more money from us. We have a one-day room-only reservation at a moderate under the discounted rate offer, paid for with Visa rewards. We plan to buy and link one-day MK tickets but haven't done so yet.
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It's not held back, if there are FP+ appointments available day of it's because there are either low crowds or they moved an allotment of FP- over to FP+.
I don't know how you would know that.
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