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Old 07-11-2014, 11:13 AM   #1
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Fantasy for Long-Time RCCL Cruiser

Hello, DCL Fans!

I posted on Cruise Critic as well, so pardon the duplication if you read both boards :-)

I'm someone who has been "Loyal to Royal" for many years. I cruised with my parents, and inherited their "status" on RCCL...and I've continued to sail with them now that I have my own child. On the other hand, I am also a long-time Disneyland annual pass holder, and have visited Aulani twice. I like to cruise, and I like Disney, so I think it makes sense that I should try DCL.

My son is 6, and has been on 3 RCCL cruises (at ages 1, 3, and 5), and two of those have been on Oasis and Allure. I think he'd love a Disney cruise, and the Fantasy looks like fun. However, I'm intimidated by trying a new cruise line after so many on Royal. I don't know where to start! On Royal, I know which cabin type to book, which deck I want, and how to plan shows and dining. On DCL, I don't even know where to begin.

I'm looking to you all for advice.

- What type of cabin might I want on DCL if I am used to a Junior Suite on RCCL?

- How do I pick a good cabin location?

- Is there anything I should know about entertainment (what not to miss? what to sign up for ahead of time?) or dining?

If you can point me to where I might find a treasure trove of information, I'd really appreciate it! I will, of course, read through the boards here and see what info I can find.

Thanks!
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I was very very disappointed with RCL, I found the ship very nice the concierge service good but the entertainment very poor and the cruise director something out of the sixties a nightmare.

Food was very hit or miss on RCL you might get one good meal but often it was very poor they can't do desserts.

I posted on cruise critic quickly this morning we actually had a Grsnd a suite there which compares to a Cst T (3) midship suite on DCL.

Entertainment, food, service is far better on DCL, RCI nickel and dimes you and treats you as a big wallet they want to pick pocket, you pay for soda packages orange. Juice apart from breakfast, upgrade steaks the coffee is rubbish.

Kids clubs are great on DCL it has rotational dinning, and a lot is included.

DCL doesn't have the wave runner, or a ice skating show or a casino, but DCL has great shops and a lot of enlightened meetings to enjoy.

The shows on DCL shouldn't be missed or a fireworks and pirates night.
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I was very very disappointed with RCL, I found the ship very nice the concierge service good but the entertainment very poor and the cruise director something out of the sixties a nightmare.

Food was very hit or miss on RCL you might get one good meal but often it was very poor they can't do desserts.
I couldn't agree more when it comes to food. None of it is great, some of it is good (specialty restaurants), most of it is mediocre at best. Desserts are always bad!

I mostly don't care about and/or notice the cruise director. There is one, however, that I can't stand. So annoying. But I still don't let it ruin my trip :-)

As for entertainment...that's where I must disagree with you. Entertainment on Allure and Oasis was really good...Broadway shows, diving show, ice skating (my son loved it), and comedy were all very good. Of course, entertainment is subjective.

Thanks for the DCL info!

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I couldn't agree more when it comes to food. None of it is great, some of it is good (specialty restaurants), most of it is mediocre at best. Desserts are always bad!

I mostly don't care about and/or notice the cruise director. There is one, however, that I can't stand. So annoying. But I still don't let it ruin my trip :-)

As for entertainment...that's where I must disagree with you. Entertainment on Allure and Oasis was really good...Broadway shows, diving show, ice skating (my son loved it), and comedy were all very good. Of course, entertainment is subjective.

Thanks for the DCL info!
I had a 14 night RCI cruise we had maybe four good shows in that cruise, none where the ships production and all guest entertainers.

Yes Portafino and the Steakhouse compared well to DCLs Palo but not Remy, and Windjammer Buffett was an equal to Cabanas on DCL and longer hours.

Things like the ice show were great, the pools nice as well.

But desserts no they can't do them, I recall the menu saying " Champaign Strawberry" all the tastes of Wimbledon, it was a small jelly and a strawberry something that you get from a cheap basic store range.

DCL has style, it's an Entertainment company doing cruising not a cruise company doing some entertainment.

To pick a cabin work out the time of year your going where you want to go, then your budget and the rest will fall into place.
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Royal hasn't interested me enough since my awesome (but not memorably ship-wise) Hawaiian engagement cruise. When we started on Carnival in 2007, THEY WERE BOTH EQUALLY NECK AND NECK FOR ME AT THAT TIME. (CCL has gone majorly down hill experience-wise for me since, and after 2012, I won't be back. But in 2007, our first one to me was JUST as good as RCI if not food being actually better. Service is abysmal now though.)

Basically, I'm a casino vegas cruise style hater. I would make an exception for Allure or Oasis, as I think my honey would like all the stuff there is to do.

For me, I LOVE TO CRUISE DISNEY, and especially the Dream (and Fantasy is my dream ship! Haven't gotten to her yet.)

I just like that there is bingo but its not hocked all day long to buy buy buy and bingo is starting here right now, buy a card! etc annoucements. I like NOT have deck parties that hairy chest or bellyflop etc. I enjoyed Labadee back when I went and CoCoCay has the best fish I have seen (also back in the day) but Castaway is AWESOME. The perfect day.

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I think the first thing is to realize, they are two totally different experiences. We had done several DCL cruises before we did our first RCCL cruise, and when we went on the RCCL cruise we compared everything with Disney...which led to not a very good RCCL cruise. Just keep your expectations "healthy", because you will always find something better on other cruise lines.

A lot of people (including myself) are biased towards DCL....my kids (both 11) only want to cruise with Disney, and we have done the shows/activities/etc...a lot of times, and still enjoy them. We too are Disneyland annual pass holders and we go all the time. So if you like the Disney "magic" that you get at Disneyland....you will LOVE the cruise line.

If you cruise during the off season, you will find it much cheaper. Disney can get pretty pricey.

The Deluxe Family Stateroom with Veranda on DCL is comparative to the RCCL Junior Suite, with the exception that DCL offers a Split Bathroom (toilet/sink in one room, and bathtub/shower/sink in a second room)....which is really nice.
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Hello, DCL Fans!

II'm looking to you all for advice.

- What type of cabin might I want on DCL if I am used to a Junior Suite on RCCL?

- How do I pick a good cabin location?

- Is there anything I should know about entertainment (what not to miss? what to sign up for ahead of time?) or dining?

Thanks!
For your stateroom, you would probably want to consider the 'Family' stateroom with veranda. It's about 3-4 feet longer than 'normal' staterooms, because it can sleep 5 people. For our family of 3, we have found the 'normal' staterooms with verandas to be plenty roomy.

Cabin location is subjective. If you liked being mid-ship on Royal, I'd go for mid-ship on the Fantasy.

The good news is that you don't need to sign up for any of the shows on the Fantasy! The three main 'Broadway-style' shows are Aladdin (on formal night), Disney Wishes, and Disney Believe. The pirate 'show' happens on deck...you might want to stake out a good spot a bit ahead of time.

If you are interested in adult dining, you can make reservations for Palo or Remy before you board. We have not tried Remy yet. We do enjoy Palo brunch (offered on sea days...can be reserved prior to boarding) and Palo dinner (offered every night...can be reserved prior to boarding).

Hope that helps!
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First go to You Tube and search Disney Fantasy hope you have a couple of days. Your questions will be answered. Your kids will love it and you just need to be a kid at heart. It is a first class ship with the best people running it. Food is good, everything else is just someones opinion. Everything execpt liquor purchases on ship is included, and you can bring as much liquor on in carry on as you want for stateroom. There is no casino.
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The equivalent stateroom to a standard JS would be a "family oceanview with verandah." Like RCCL, the higher the deck the pricier. Midship is a premium over forward or aft. You're looking at a category 4D-A.

A category 5 room would also probably be just fine for you as they are generally still larger than a standard RCCL balcony. Since those sizes vary a bit in the Royal fleet it's tough to compare. Disney has some of the larger staterooms in the industry. I find they are closer to Celebrity's room sizes.

Almost all staterooms on Disney have bathtubs, if that's part of what makes you choose a JS.

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Thank you all so much! This gives me a great start, and I will be reading lots of trip reports and so forth.

Honestly, I think DCL will be awesome. I don't want it to be like RCCL -- I really want something different. I've done the other cruises time and time again, and I'm over it. We love going to Disneyland, and Aulani is amazing. I don't see any reason why DCL won't be fantastic as well!

And PS...if you've never been to Aulani, you should check it out :-)
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This will be our first DCL cruise too. We are used to Celebrity and RCCL. Am I wrong in assuming the food on DCL won't be as good as on X? That's been my assumption, but we shall see.

I am very much looking forward to the shows on the Dream and also the lack of a casino The rotational dining ought to be interesting too. Coco is beautiful, but Castaway looks insanely fun to me. I'm ready!
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The equivalent stateroom to a standard JS would be a "family oceanview with verandah." Like RCCL, the higher the deck the pricier. Midship is a premium over forward or aft. You're looking at a category 4D-A.

A category 5 room would also probably be just fine for you as they are generally still larger than a standard RCCL balcony.
In doing some research about cabin size, I found that it was a little difficult to compare because DCL *includes* the verandah in its calculation of square footage (while RCCL gives you square footage for the cabin and the balcony separately). But from what I can tell, it looks something like this (cabin/balcony/total):

RCCL Junior Suite (Oasis class): 287/78/365
RCCL Junior Suite (Mariner class): 297/65/362

RCCL Balcony (Oasis class): 182/53/235
RCCL Balcony (Mariner class): 199/65/264

DCL Conc Family Ver (Fantasy): 241/65/306
DCL Veranda (Fantasy): 204/42/246


So from the looks of this, none of the Fantasy's cabins (excluding suites) are as big as a RCCL Junior Suite. However, the Fantasy's Verandah cabins are bigger than RCCL's Balcony cabins. And on RCCL's older ships, the Balcony cabins are only 5 sq ft smaller than the Veranda cabins on Fantasy...but the RCCL balcony itself is much bigger.

So, it seems like the DCL category 4 is not really equivalent to a JS on RCCL. It is more like right in between a standard RCCL Balcony cabin and a JS. And the category 5 is slightly bigger than a standard RCCL Balcony cabin.

I pulled all of the square footage numbers from various sources online. I hope that they are correct!
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In doing some research about cabin size, I found that it was a little difficult to compare because DCL *includes* the verandah in its calculation of square footage (while RCCL gives you square footage for the cabin and the balcony separately). But from what I can tell, it looks something like this (cabin/balcony/total): RCCL Junior Suite (Oasis class): 287/78/365 RCCL Junior Suite (Mariner class): 297/65/362 RCCL Balcony (Oasis class): 182/53/235 RCCL Balcony (Mariner class): 199/65/264 DCL Conc Family Ver (Fantasy): 241/65/306 DCL Veranda (Fantasy): 204/42/246 So from the looks of this, none of the Fantasy's cabins (excluding suites) are as big as a RCCL Junior Suite. However, the Fantasy's Verandah cabins are bigger than RCCL's Balcony cabins. And on RCCL's older ships, the Balcony cabins are only 5 sq ft smaller than the Veranda cabins on Fantasy...but the RCCL balcony itself is much bigger. So, it seems like the DCL category 4 is not really equivalent to a JS on RCCL. It is more like right in between a standard RCCL Balcony cabin and a JS. And the category 5 is slightly bigger than a standard RCCL Balcony cabin. I pulled all of the square footage numbers from various sources online. I hope that they are correct!
Thank you for the comparison! We are long time RCCL sailers looking into DCL for the first time and I am finding it confusing so this was very helpful.
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In doing some research about cabin size, I found that it was a little difficult to compare because DCL *includes* the verandah in its calculation of square footage (while RCCL gives you square footage for the cabin and the balcony separately). But from what I can tell, it looks something like this (cabin/balcony/total):

RCCL Junior Suite (Oasis class): 287/78/365
RCCL Junior Suite (Mariner class): 297/65/362

RCCL Balcony (Oasis class): 182/53/235
RCCL Balcony (Mariner class): 199/65/264

DCL Conc Family Ver (Fantasy): 241/65/306
DCL Veranda (Fantasy): 204/42/246


So from the looks of this, none of the Fantasy's cabins (excluding suites) are as big as a RCCL Junior Suite. However, the Fantasy's Verandah cabins are bigger than RCCL's Balcony cabins. And on RCCL's older ships, the Balcony cabins are only 5 sq ft smaller than the Veranda cabins on Fantasy...but the RCCL balcony itself is much bigger.

So, it seems like the DCL category 4 is not really equivalent to a JS on RCCL. It is more like right in between a standard RCCL Balcony cabin and a JS. And the category 5 is slightly bigger than a standard RCCL Balcony cabin.

I pulled all of the square footage numbers from various sources online. I hope that they are correct!

You are missing category. The Deluxe Family Oceanview with Verandah is 299 square feet. I don't know the breakdown between the room and the balcony. These rooms are sized and configured very much like the concierge rooms, just with different amenities.
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This will be our first DCL cruise too. We are used to Celebrity and RCCL. Am I wrong in assuming the food on DCL won't be as good as on X? That's been my assumption, but we shall see.

I am very much looking forward to the shows on the Dream and also the lack of a casino The rotational dining ought to be interesting too. Coco is beautiful, but Castaway looks insanely fun to me. I'm ready!
It is all really personal opinion. I always am shocked when people say the food on DCL isn't that good. I personally enjoy most of the meals (pirate night has been Eh in the dinning rooms but good in the after dinner buffet) and I eat all over the place from the best NYC has to offer to the pizza place on the corner. If there isn't something on that nights dinner than you enjoy ask if they can get you something form the other dinning room.

I think the issue some people have with DCL is if the menu at one dinning place doesn't suit you, you can't just skip it and make a reservation for the place you really like like on RCCL or Norwegian.
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