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Old 11-26-2013, 05:30 AM   #1
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bbc- sea world orca programme last night

Watched this last night not able to bring myself to go back- had always enjoyed it in the past but to be honest I did already find myself having to try justify being there- after that program I no longer can.
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:08 AM   #2
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Watched this last night not able to bring myself to go back- had always enjoyed it in the past but to be honest I did already find myself having to try justify being there- after that program I no longer can.
I didn't watch but have always skipped seaworld over my past visits pre kids and have no intention of taking my 2. It's so sad and unnecessary. I wish they'd stop seeing this beautiful creatures as entertainment.

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Old 11-26-2013, 06:11 AM   #3
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The documentary BLACKFISH, absolutely incredible I bought it a week before they showed it, you can still catch it on BBC Iplayer I highly recommend it!

I will not go to Seaworld again. I can't believe I was so stupid to do so before.
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:41 AM   #4
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Can't find it on iplayer.. when was it on, what was it called (Blackfish?) and on what channel.

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scrub that last... sorry, found it. "Storyville"
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:56 AM   #6
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On eye player under storyville on bbc 41 0.30 last night (mon).

At least I 'm not the only one wishing I had never been. We only started going after we saw sea world in a positive light when while we were out there they did rescue a huge number of manatees which were dying due an extreme unusual cold snap. Now I feel duped, Not only did they appear to have no respect for their animals, I also couldn't believe the lack of respect they had for their trainers (esp the dead girl) After that their court defense attempts- well that finished me off.
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Old 11-26-2013, 07:36 AM   #7
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Cv I also couldn't believe the lack of respect they had for their trainers
"Dawn would be the first to admit it was her fault"

The audacity of the whole thing.
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:54 AM   #8
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We nearly went to sea world in september but didnt bother in the end. Im not sure i can bring myself to watch this, is it bad?
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:11 AM   #9
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We nearly went to sea world in september but didnt bother in the end. Im not sure i can bring myself to watch this, is it bad?
Was wondering the same thing .Its like finding out someones been lying to you! Is it saying that all the good conservation stuff they do not true?
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don't get me wrong- there is no actual physical cruelty to the orcas if you over look the hunting and killing of their mothers in order to obtain them. In fact what you can tell is most of the trainers love them dearly. What there is - a large money driven organisation that evidently cares very little about its staff and its animals and will do all it needs to protect its profits. Including liing to the public in the animal pretensions at sea world and even in court cases under oath. Many trainers were interviewed and regret every working with these captive animals. Most of which seemed to have suffered psychologically.
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:14 AM   #11
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We nearly went to sea world in september but didnt bother in the end. Im not sure i can bring myself to watch this, is it bad?
I found it sad yet informative...
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Was wondering the same thing .Its like finding out someones been lying to you! Is it saying that all the good conservation stuff they do not true?
That more or less sums it up - they are a profit driven business - end off - conservation a side line that pulls in extra support and more dollars- and most importantly got suckers like me through the gates
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:23 AM   #13
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Really don't know if I can watch it .Might need to re think our sea world plans . Thats all DD wants to be is a Maine Biologist because of her Sea World and Discovery Cove experience.I suppose it brings into question there too
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Oh yes, there's nothing like a one-sided, agenda-driven, piece of propaganda to get everyone ranting!
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Really don't know if I can watch it .Might need to re think our sea world plans . Thats all DD wants to be is a Maine Biologist because of her Sea World and Discovery Cove experience.I suppose it brings into question there too
As I said they are NOT actually physically cruel to the animals- if you have already got the passes - then they already have your money so no gain not taking your DD (I went back and forth about posting for that reason but thought that I would rather know than be in the dark so posted). If you have not got your tickets and your DD is old enough then why not let her watch and see what she wants to do. At least she would find out that they do not employ marine bio. to be trainers -the trainers are employed on there ability to look good on camera and stage- oh and must be able to swim. As I said before it is the company attitude/philosophy that seems wrong Not the day to day work the trainers do.

Hope I have not put a dampener on your trip - I really really don't want to do that to anyone.
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