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Old 11-12-2013, 04:17 PM   #76
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There will be some people flee, but for the most part the average customer is not on these boards and do not have a clue. Yes if I was there I would probably change just knowing what I know but the average person there does not know and when they see Disney giving them 3 Fps before they arrive they will be ecstatic. The problem will only come from the ones that talk to people that stayed at other resorts. That will not be many so ignorance will stay bliss.

Oh and though I do not have the schedule in front of me I do believe Pop Century was either first or was in the first block of resorts offered FP+.
We check in on Thursday and, even if we could, we wouldn't switch resorts.

I just don't understand all the fuss. Disney is keeping up with technology, which is a good thing. Sure there will be (and already are) glitches. But if they stayed static, that would be detrimental to them eventually. Of course DW will never be financially hurting tor lose fans because, well, who DOESN'T love Disney?! But still, they have to keep up with or ahead of the times. And that's all they're doing.

I for sure understand people's frustrations, though. I guess I'm just of the mind that, hey, I'm in DISNEYWORLD. How much better could life get?!

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Old 11-12-2013, 04:18 PM   #77
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During any testing Phase when monetary property is involved, they have to give the customer an opt out. It's a legality. A customer has to freely accept participation. Unfortunately by signing up for MDE, you are accepting participation.
Can you cite something that says that Fastpass is monetary property?
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:19 PM   #78
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During any testing Phase when monetary property is involved, they have to give the customer an opt out. It's a legality. A customer has to freely accept participation. Unfortunately by signing up for MDE, you are accepting participation.
Bayou - stop saying you can OPT OUT.

You can't OPT OUT.

It's a 6-day test from 11/14-11/19.

If you don't have a band when you check-in they give you a band. If you don't want a band they give you a RFID enabled KTTW card that acts like a band.

You tap the card like a band and the KTTW card does not pull FP-.

This is not a test you can opt-out of. It is a 6-day full scale MM+.

If you have a February reservation, sit tight and hold on. It could get bumpy. If you have an 11/14 reservation somewhere other than Pop than this won't impact you.

If you are staying on property during Thanksgiving then don't worry. They probably won't do anything during such a peak week. They will probably collect this data and pick a new resort and a new week sometime in December.
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:19 PM   #79
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Not quite true. People had access to MDE well before they were offered the option to test MB or FP+. MDE != FP+ OR MB
Ok I may be mistaken on that part, I thought I remember when signing up for MDE there was a TOS? Or was that when customizing MB? it's been a while, I don't quite remember..
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:22 PM   #80
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Bayou - stop saying you can OPT OUT.

You can't OPT OUT.

It's a 6-day test from 11/14-11/19.

If you don't have a band when you check-in they give you a band. If you don't want a band they give you a RFID enabled KTTW card that acts like a band.

You tap the card like a band and the KTTW card does not pull FP-.

This is not a test you can opt-out of. It is a 6-day full scale MM+.

If you have a February reservation, sit tight and hold on. It could get bumpy. If you have an 11/14 reservation somewhere other than Pop than this won't impact you.

If you are staying on property during Thanksgiving then don't worry. They probably won't do anything during such a peak week. They will probably collect this data and pick a new resort and a new week sometime in December.
You most definitely can Opt out, it's a legality, look it up you cannot force a consumer to partake in a beta, alpha, or any sort of testing.
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:23 PM   #81
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They probably won't do anything during such a peak week. They will probably collect this data and pick a new resort and a new week sometime in December.

That's the part that worries me.
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:26 PM   #82
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You most definitely can Opt out, it's a legality, look it up you cannot force a consumer to partake in a beta, alpha, or any sort of testing.
Fine - you can opt out of a "beta" or whatever you want to call it.

But if you are staying at POP 11/14-11/19 and opt-out of the band you will get a KTTW card that does the exact same thing a band does. So you are not opting out of anything.

So don't tell people they can opt out of this.

If people are going to POP in the next few days they need to know that they are getting bands or band equivalents and need to be prepared for that reality.
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:27 PM   #83
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We check in on Thursday and, even if we could, we wouldn't switch resorts.

I just don't understand all the fuss. Disney is keeping up with technology, which is a good thing. Sure there will be (and already are) glitches. But if they stayed static, that would be detrimental to them eventually. Of course DW will never be financially hurting tor lose fans because, well, who DOESN'T love Disney?! But still, they have to keep up with or ahead of the times. And that's all they're doing.

I for sure understand people's frustrations, though. I guess I'm just of the mind that, hey, I'm in DISNEYWORLD. How much better could life get?!

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You most definitely can Opt out, it's a legality, look it up you cannot force a consumer to partake in a beta, alpha, or any sort of testing.
Can you quote the law? I would be interested since the only difference between this "test" and what is available today is the option to pull paper fastpasses. That's it. Given your original suggestion, that would mean that paper fastpasses have monetary value. Last I checked, they didn't.
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:29 PM   #85
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Fine - you can opt out of a "beta" or whatever you want to call it.

But if you are staying at POP 11/14-11/19 and opt-out of the band you will get a KTTW card that does the exact same thing a band does. So you are not opting out of anything.

So don't tell people they can opt out of this.

If people are going to POP in the next few days they need to know that they are getting bands or band equivalents and need to be prepared for that reality.
You can opt out of the Magic Bands, but you cannot opt out of MyMagic+. This had to happen at some point. FP- is going away. There is no need to get overworked about it. (Not you matthewhavens...just a general statement directed to no one in particular. )
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We check in on Thursday and, even if we could, we wouldn't switch resorts.

I just don't understand all the fuss. Disney is keeping up with technology, which is a good thing. Sure there will be (and already are) glitches. But if they stayed static, that would be detrimental to them eventually. Of course DW will never be financially hurting tor lose fans because, well, who DOESN'T love Disney?! But still, they have to keep up with or ahead of the times. And that's all they're doing.

I for sure understand people's frustrations, though. I guess I'm just of the mind that, hey, I'm in DISNEYWORLD. How much better could life get?!

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Seems like it is now a disadvantage

To stay on-site. Kills APs bonus of park hopping as well ad regular park hoppers. Why not be given the choice for which you want to do.

Thankfully iur son is growing up and we have only two more sets of APs to use.

The only reason we wanted FP+ this trip is it is for Thanksgiving and the crowds will be very high. Looking like we will not be staying on-site for future trips.

Guess that will save us $ in the long run.
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:31 PM   #88
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They are referring to the testing card. Opting out of the test would deem you the traditional KTTW card.
The FAQ didn't say the traditional wouldn't work but didn't say it would either as far a fp- is concerned. If planning this route I would definitely check with Disney.
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Hmm. We check in at POP on Friday. I am figuring this all out.

One thing I'm sorting out in my head is regular FP(i'm guessing that's what all of you mean when you say FP-) vs FP+. We have not made any FP+ selections because we will be purchasing military tickets when we get there(we prefer not to drive all the way across Georgia to buy them) so we haven't linked tickets.

What I'm sorting out is this-my husband, who will be in Orlando for a national sales mtg and staying at the Peabody, plans to join us for the weekend days, but since he wont be on property I'm trying to figure out how, if he's with us, he can have a FP at the same time as us. It puts some people at a real disadvantage. Like if you are staying on property and you have family in Orlando who won't be in a room. You won't be getting any FP together.

This could be a mess.
You need to be prepared for the reality that those of you staying at Pop will have no access to "regular" FP.

You need to either get online now or make FP+ selections once you have purchased and linked your tickets to your bands.
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I'm somewhat confused,I have an AP that expires Jan 3rd,I pay it monthly and will renew it before my Dec 13th visit.I'm staying at Pop Century for the marathon January 10th.I go on the website and it shows I can customize the magic bands up until a month before my trip.I have my APs linked to my reservation and magic bands order.I can't make FP+ reservations for my January trip I'm assuming because by then the pass has expired.I'm confused,am I going to get a magic band with my AP info on it that I can use at the parks and at Pop for my stay.Will the magic band only be for entry to my hotel room and I'll get another RFID card for my AP when I renew it.And if the pass will be linked to my AP can I just keep the magic band as my AP even though I'm getting it for my stay?????
I'm not sure what will happen with you, but will share what happened with us.
We are AP passholders. We stayed at BWV in early October for 4 days and got wrist bands. We linked our AP's linked to the wristband. DH AP expires in Dec. We have been back to WDW 2 different weekends after we checked out of BWV and the wristband still works to enter the park AND to do FP+ even though we are not resort guests anymore. In November, I got a new AP and they linked it to the wristband (Because my other AP had expired) even though I was no longer a resort guest. I was again able to do FP+.

Hopefully, when you renew your AP on 12/13, they will be able to link that new AP to your reservation and wristband.
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